A link would be fine! LOL

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The more thou sweateth in training, the less though bleedeth in combat

http://www.mud-master.com/shadowkeeper/

All will be revealed.

Keep in mind it is a cheat program, using it will change the game play totally. I for one do not support the use of these "Trainers" as the make a game totally useless in the sense they take out the chalenge. I've decided to start a new game after my last one, I knew very well that I'd have to regain all the experience but I did not mind doing a great many of the same quests again as it is part of how you learn to correct your mistake.

Heck, my first team, I took out the Shadow Dragon in about 1 hour (10 minutes when I found the correct spell squence). In this new team, it took me over 4 hours of hard combat, hard, run in, fight, run out, run in, fight, run out. One of the toughest fight. I could easily take the cheating route, but then again, would I have cussed this much at my computer and the game? ;]

This is only true if you USE it like that. If you open up your save game and change your character's movement rate, natural AC, saving throws, etc. then of course you're taking the fun out of the game. But it can also be used to do things that do not affect the game-play, like change the sh*tty BG portraits to cool ones that fit your characters better, or check your Global Variables to monitor the progress of something.

Liliara, ShadowKeeper is very user-friendly. Once you download it and install it you'll be able to use it with complete ease. Very self-explanatory and very useful.

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a bunch of long hairs.
trux

After several beers, a cursing fit or three, and a bruised fist, I give up and could use some help.

I downloaded and unzipped Shadowkeeper, but could not open it... it listed the needed components and I had them all, yet I still couldn't figure out how to open it. I erased it and downloaded again and the result was the same. Any suggestions?

Also, using the CLUA editor, I got the damned "active stack" bit when trying to adjust my character (I added boots of speed to the entire party to cut down on walk time, as well as bags of holding gems, etc...)

I proceeded to clear the "active stack list" in the baldur.ini file, still the error occurred. Anyone have any idea how to clear the stack short of reloading the entire game?

Thanks.

I think that you should do whatever makes the game fun for you. Some people like the challenge. Others like to make their characters into ubermunchkins and walk through the game like gods. To each his own. I think that Shadowkeeper's a great tool to customize your gaming experience. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

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Sorry but I respectfuly do not agree with the theory of "To each his own". The game was meant for being played one way. It cost enough to buy it as to enjoy it the way it was build. Taking the "cheating" route only makes this game a generic nothing, might as well not play it out as you change one aspect that you cannot change otherwise, you change the game totally and (in my book) you do not play BGII but something else. I know you are the moderator, and hope you won't mind my different opinion as I do not hold my opinion for anyone, I speak freely regardless of who is what.

Again, it is a matter of personal taste, but I know that cheats are not in my book, even cheats that are discovered in the games, the ones that don't take any tools, like the 35k XP gained and regained for ever if you go back to the auto-save before entrying the Asylum via the "I'm insane" path.

I do not support cheating and will never support it but I also am a realist and know that some people out there prefer it to the hard route. Viconia would have some words for them ;]


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[This message has been edited by Wildhorse (edited 08-20-2001).]

I love shadowkeeper. It allows you to edit your characters if a huge, "reload from start" problem occurs like you put down a key that is the only thing that'll get you through a frigging door and it'll take three r/l days to find it; or you've changed your mind about the roleplay aspect of your character and to maintain enjoyment you just have to give your Barbarian mastery in Two handed swords instead of missiles and quaterstaffs you mistakenly chose.

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A fair dinkum laughing Hyena!

Wildhorse, I could care less for Viconia's words as she's nothing but pixels and scripting - if you canno accept people doing what they like with a product they spent THEIR money on, then that's tough! You do not run this world

I did not use Shadowkeeper for cheating - I used it to circumvent bugs before the appropriate patch and, of course, to turn my elf fighter/mage/thief into a chicken (see my link below)

Being a chicken is no advantage (try it and see) and made the game more fun that time through

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[This message has been edited by Lord Shield (edited 08-20-2001).]

I have already finished the game twice without any cheats. Now I want to have fun in a different way. I see nothing wrong with it. I am not forcing anyone to do the same. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

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The more thou sweateth in training, the less though bleedeth in combat

As well you should have fun with it. Some people are sticklers about "cheating," but who cares how you play it if you have fun.

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a bunch of long hairs.
trux

I am in agreement with Liliara and trux. I completed the game a few times with different characters and allignments, no cheating involved, and find that ShadowKeeper can give you other options and approaches to the game.

Whatever floats your boat.
If you want to play it straight, be my guest, but this doesn't mean that you can't go back as an indestructable killing machine in another incarnation.

Why would I hold it against you? We don't suppress anyone's opinions here. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif

I think you are expressing an opinion above but are portraying it as a fact. Just because YOU don't like cheating or customizing doesn't mean that nobody does. If I was a casual gamer and bought BG2 and got sick of playing it because it was too difficult for me, why shouldn't I make the game easier for myself? Or should I just give up? Or should I just keep trying and trying for months by which time the fun is long gone and my self-esteem has taken a battering (I'm exaggerating here).

Isn't the reason you buy a game is to derive enjoyment out of it? You derive enjoyment by beating the game's challenges. Someone else might derive enjoyment for a totally different reason.

At the end of the day, it's your game once you buy it - there's nothing on the box that says you lose points or are less of a player if you didn't complete it the way it was "meant to be played".http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

Don't take the above as a flame - I'm giving you MY opinion now and trying to show you that there may be one way to finish the game, but a myriad number of ways to play it.



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Right on Memnoch. Speak it brother.

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A fair dinkum laughing Hyena!

I cheated.

And I liked it!

Well spoken, Memnoch. I completely agree with you.

I believe, Wildhorse, that we should be more tolerant to other people and they way of doing things. Especially when we are speaking about the game - the thing that is only an entertainment. Every person may enjoy it in his/her own way. If you like a challenge - well, you're just such kind of a person and it's OK, but that doesn't mean everyone is alike you. All the people are different from each other, so trying to forse them to accept The Only Right Way of Doing Things is very unfair - particulary because there is no "only one right way".
You're saying that The game was meant for being played one way.
I can't agree with it http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif. The game was meant to bring joy to players and to be enjoyed - nothing more...

And, I'll repeat after Memnoch - I am not flaming you, this is only my opinion on the matter http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif.

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Tanda,
with best regards from Guild of Assassins

Tanada, are you really from the Ukraine? That's incredible. Wow! I love the net. Are you in Kiev? or down near the Crimea and Sevastopol? I am an Australian from Sydney in Manhattan.



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I am the walrus!.... er, no hang on.... http://www.animfactory.com/animation...ing_lg_clr.gif

A fair dinkum laughing Hyena!