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Terence The Unspecial 07-25-2001 01:01 PM

Hello All,

I've had to replay a lot of battles after my characters were stunned or dazed or confused by various enemy wizard spells and such things as Umber Hulks.

I know there is a way to distract the Hulks in one particular case but is there a general countermeasure you can take to keep your characters mental state from deteriorating so? Some kind of protection from charming or confusion or dazing spell?

I had in mind something besides hitting the enemy spellcasters first and screwing up their spellcasting.

TIA

Waluin 07-25-2001 01:03 PM

I recall a priest spell called "Greater Command". Look into it, I think that might help.

Sazerac 07-25-2001 01:43 PM

I think the 5th level Priest spell "Chaotic Commands" works well as a ward against confusion and chaos spells. Trouble is, it only affects 1 character. I also know there's a lot of items in the game you can pick up that make you immune to confusion and chaos. Lilarcor, the talking sword, is one of these.

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DonkeyWan 07-25-2001 01:47 PM

minor spell turning will also help as does minor globe of invulnerabilty. Dispel will mass solve any major problem.

Terence The Unspecial 07-25-2001 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by DonkeyWan:
minor spell turning will also help as does minor globe of invulnerabilty. Dispel will mass solve any major problem.
Thank you all for your quick responses. This is one of my first postings, and I'd like to say how happy I am to be a new, very new, member of this community. Everyone seems very nice and so helpful. Thanks again,

Terence

koz-ivan 07-25-2001 02:51 PM

other counter measures:

ager's hide armour, leather and sold by ribald (any char that can wear armour can wear this, it will protect you from confusion)

the talking sword, lillacor will protect from charm & confusion.

also always have a dispel magic ready, it will more than likely get rid of the confusion. keldorn the paladin is very good in this regard.

Azred 07-25-2001 08:22 PM

For mages, set up a Contingency to cast Dispel Magic on yourself in case you are rendered helpless. Cleric/mages can arm their Contingency with Dispel Magic, Freedom, Remove Paralysis, Chaotic Commands, etc.

Before being afflicted in such a manner, use Chaotic Commands, some item that grants protection from confusion/charm, a potion of Clarity, or Spell Immunity: Enchantment/Charm.

Note, of course, that the most useful 8th level spell in the world--Mind Blank--was conveniently left out of the game http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...s/rolleyes.gif ... until I put it back in. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif



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Memnoch 07-25-2001 09:19 PM

The skald's bard song at level 15+ protects from Confusion.

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Gil-Galad 07-25-2001 10:08 PM

"An intelligent mind is the key to the universe."

Are you absolutely sure, Azred?

Reply To Topic: Yes, what the others said. You can get several items that make you immune or resistant to charm- and command related attacks (shields, swords, potions, spells). AND REMEMBER that Umber Hulks are as receptive to those spells as you are, and maybe even more so, depending on your level.


Terence The Unspecial 07-26-2001 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Azred:


Note, of course, that the most useful 8th level spell in the world--Mind Blank--was conveniently left out of the game http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...s/rolleyes.gif ... until I put it back in. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif


Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it. I feel that this next question is a newbie question, but I have to ask it. (Feel free to ignore or just point me to a URL where I can figure out for myself)

You put it back in? How on EARTH did you do that? Are you a programmer or something?

Redblueflare 07-26-2001 10:40 AM

Stun is a very annoying status. All high level mages seem to love symbol stun. The only ways I know of to cure it are to carry a permanent free action item, like the Arbanes Sword, or ring of free action. The spell free action does not work that well. (The stun overrides the free action, or vice versa.)

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Marcus 07-26-2001 11:34 AM

In my experience, over 75% of the time that I lose a battle, it is because of confusion/stun/fear/charm removing party members from my control. It would seem these abilities are a bit overpowered. Additionally it seems there is always a way around it (The enemy was using hold person (2nd lvl), so I started putting up minor globes of invuln, the enemy started using confusion (4th lvl), I started putting up globes of invuln, and the enemy started using Chaos (5th lvl), and if I use spell immunity to that, they just use symbol: Fear or power word: Stun...)
However, the Contingency: Dispel Magic sounds like a really good idea. Thanks for the tip.

Hayashi 08-10-2001 03:37 AM

Umberhulks are *very* susceptible to cloudkill... http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif

Memnoch 08-10-2001 09:04 AM

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Originally posted by Terence The Unspecial:

You put it back in? How on EARTH did you do that? Are you a programmer or something?

No, he just knows how to use Infinity Engine Editor Pro. You can pick it up from www.teambg.com. It will allow you to edit and create items, among other things.

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