Allright...so I bought the game and am loving it...UNTIL!
I'm getting my butt handed to me over and over fighting the umber hulks in the save the keep quest. The confusion is just reaking havoc. I got the hint about them being hungry, and I got the hint about the stove to make food...am I supposed to be feeding them to avoid this??? All I can say is, the only monster to crush me this bad so far was the damn elemental lich!!!
HELP!

haha yea i remember the doggie food part

after you killed the 4 dogs, cooked up some soup...you have to have a thief or someone invisible sneak into the jail part of the keep. it's to the west where all the umberhulks are. There's a part of the jail thats broken into and you can select the ground. put the food in there and run out cuz the hulks will come immediatly (but they wont see you cuz you're inviz). Then go close the doors and finish the rest of the quest. For me, I just killed them with my kensai haha

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You deciphered the hints right! You ARE supposed to feed them to avoid the attack, but I'll try not to spoil you with what you feed them - try to figure it out.

If you want to fight them, one good fighter with a nice AC and the spell Chaotic Command cast on him can clean them right up.

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Assuming you've made the stew, there is a room to the south of the umber hulks that has some bones in it. You need to have one character using stealth or invisibility sneak into the room, leave the stew with the bones (it's like putting something into a chest), and then sneak back out and away from the umberhulks. Make sure you save before you do this, as there are some other problems you have to solve to get this to work, but if you're still stuck then post here and I'll give you more details.

heh oops too late

Just open the door cast cloudkill, and shut it. they cant open the door and all die within seconds.

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[This message has been edited by Dramnek_Ulk (edited 07-21-2001).]

OK....here's an additional part of the question (call it part two). I killed the doggies, but it was a LONG time ago and I didn't pick up the parts...do they stay on the ground indefinitely?

If you are on high enough level and attack them right away you can beat them easily!

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Or let loose with chaotic commands, or other spells that block confusion effects.

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Did you do the quest in the sewers below the Copper Coronet? You get Lilacor, a two-handed sword that makes the wielder immune to charm and confusion. Give this to Minsc (or someone else with two-handed sword proficiency), load him up with the better AC items (best armor, rings, etc.), then let him tear them up (preferably after using haste or an oil of speed). I usually use the open door, cloudkill, close door tactic; they are low enough level that they die quick.


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yes, the meat should still be laying on the ground if you go back.

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I just went in there with my mages (Aerie, protagonist, Nalia) and had Jaheira and Minsc protect them while I hit 'em hard with Magic Missiles and stuff like that. I also Animal Summoned with Jaheira so the hulks confused the animals . . .

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>The stove is on the same level as the dogs. You need all 4 piles of dog meat.
you will notice there are two doors on the west side of the room with the hulks. If you sneak in the north most door go all the way down the hall on the end of the hall there is open area with an interactive spot that is where the dog stew goes. After dropping the stew run (imeadiatly) south to another hall parrallel to the one you entered, go east up the hall and out the door close that door behind you and then close the other door that you had entered earlier. You are now safe to bring your whole party in to the room. The tactic that I used to take out the umber hulks one by one was to use Yoshimos special traps in front of the door, open the door go down the hall just far enough for one of the hulks to see me and then run back into the room. As the hulk came through the door my ranged weapons people whacked him as he go whacked by the trap if that wasn't good enough the fighter/ranger by the door would mak quick work of him. Repeat as neccasary.

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