Should I kill the Shadow Dragon? I can get by him with the stone so I don't have to fight, but will I get something nice out of it if I do kill him?

You get some treasure Gems and the like I think, the true scroll of Crom Faeyrer and his scales which make great armour for a thief or a stalker.

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Any tips on how to kill him?

lower resistance by 3
breach
slow
offensive magic

all this happens as fighters attack

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Some people have problems killing dragons. I died about 4 times, trying to kill this guy, before I finally got him. So if you are not confident about your fighting strength, then no. But he is evil, so killing him, is not bad, even for good characters.

I dont think he has anything you NEED. If thats your question.

The only one of those spells I think I have available is slow. ANy other suggestions?

Wait till you gain more power or if its a case of I dont know the spells head off by the scrolls learn them and then kick its ass.

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Only need two spells: Lower resistance and Magic Missle.

Just occupy him with your fighters and/or summoned creatures. While that is going on cast lower resistance 2 or 3 times. Then just hit with magic missles. I had three mages in my group (well, a mage, Aerie and Jan). Each could cast MM 5 times (15 times total). Each spell did around 20 points of damage. 20*15= 300 damage. More than enough.

if you can cast about 2 or 3 lower resistance before engaging him most spells should work. I had a wizard bezerk script on my mage at the time and he somehow killed him with a disintergrate. I didn't mind until I found out that the black dragon scales had been disintergrated too. DAMN!

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this is what worked for me with the Red: cloudkill and haste.
so get your trusty wand o' cloudkilling greatness and shot about 2-3 o' the bad boys and watch the big bad dragon choke and gag. then when he's about to cast heal on himself haste your party members (who are wielding Dragonbane and Dragonslayer and the Holy Avenger right? RIGHT!?) and have them kick the ever loving sh*t out of him.

LOL! You could use the special weapons created for killing dragons as well. That would be the dragon scale shield, the dragon's bane, etc. They inflict more damage to the dragon..

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My thief (Imoen) is also my Mage. She has the robe of vecna (what a great item), so should she wear the armour or give it to another NPC (or sell it). Thanks.

Lower resistance is about the only spell I don't have. I can't use any 6th level spells with any of my mages (Edwin and Aeirie) either so that sucks. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif Iwould use cloudkill but, he moves around to much for it to affect him. I tried using web; that didn't work. so I guess I'm screwed right?

Do you have summoning spells? o_O?

I have defeated the Shadow Dragon before when my average party level was only 9-10. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

Basically, get summons to distract the Dragon from the front while your melee party members attack from the back.

Your archers and mages should be shooting and casting from as far as possible.

As summons die, summon more.

Oh, and as a personal tip, when your melee party member hits 50% Hp, drink a potion. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

Follow these basic rules and no Dragon should prove too difficult a fight.

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Yeah summons is one thing that I do have, i'll try that method thanks.

NO NO NO you all do it soooo wrong.. one easy step to kill Firkragg and the shadow dragon!! W/O damage to your party.

Just blind the silly sobs (how i just killed firkragg the second time!! (just make sure your mage has blind (1st level spell) and once he is blinde buff up your party and let em loose. summon monsters if you want....

Also real fast um what weapons besides the dragon killing weapons work because I don't have any of them.

a +1 weapon or better.

ok i'll go try it

Good lad!

Hope i helped!

Well I did say mages should cast spells from a distance, what kind of spells though is dependant on what the player has. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif

Sides, I'm assuming his party is low level and he doesn't have Greater Malison, and he says he doesn't have Lower Resist or Pierce Magic. So the Dragon is highly likely to just save against the Blind spell. Magic Missile will be a better choice, though Blind does only occupy 1 slot and who knows? The gamble might pay off. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

true.. its all dependant on everything each person has... i mean no two games are alike.. but if you have blind thats is the easiest step to kill a dragon that doesnt turn hostile untile you do something to it (i.e. talk or attack it)

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I tried blind but it doesn't work. Will breach and then blind work? I do have Pierce magic and greater Malison, but Edwin isn't high enough to use them. Bummer http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif This guy is hard, but I want to beat him so. I guess I'll have to keep trying?

even when the dragon isnt hostile.. it still has magic resistance.. try to use breach a few times.. or something to reduce their magic resistance.. then blind him and go in for the kill... http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

Okayyyy... ...

The following tip requires a good mouse. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif

I call it the Chicken Run. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...les/tongue.gif Basically, all your party members are using ranged attacks, and only one member will engage the Dragon in melee combat. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

Nevertheless, cast some summons first, to absorb the Dragon's initial attack and Wing Buffet.

When the Dragon engages your melee fighter who should have been at the back until now, get your melee fighter to start running in a circle.

NOTE! Do not run toward the rest of the party. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif

As the Dragon chases your melee fighter pause now and then( unless you have set Autopause for spell cast) so that your mages can cast spells at the Dragon constantly. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

If you have Breach, cast it when the Dragon casts Stoneskin, otherwise, nevermind and just wait for it to wear out. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif When the Dragon casts, Protection from Magical Weapons, get your members to switch to normal ranged members.

Do not forget though! To keep your melee fighter running in circles. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif

If your melee fighter gets hit, just grin, gulp some potions and continue running. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif Eventually your mages and archers will kill the Dragon. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

Good luck!

insted of your fighter.. try useing a wizard eye.. they can absorbe a hell of a lot of damage!

He doesn't have Lower Resist, he can't use Pierce Magic, I'm assuming he doesn't have the relevant scrolls too and casting Breach before the Dragon goes hostile is useless( and wasteful) because the Dragon does not have any Spell Protections before going hostile.

Oh, but casting Greater Malison before the Dragon goes hostile is a good idea. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

Well I need to sleep now. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...les/tongue.gifhttp://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gifhttp://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...les/tongue.gif

Best of luck Eternalsaiyan! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif Here's wishing I get to read your victory post when I get back tomorrow. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

What level is Wizard eye? Man I hate this guy. It's so frustrating. I've gotten him to near death but then he all of sudden starts kicking everyone's ass? It sucks.

I still can't beat the damn dragon. I'm so frustrrated at this point. I think I might use shadowkeeper to edit my game just to beat the dragon do you think I should?

Well I beat the dragon using shadowkeeper I know it's cheap but oh well I just raised all my characters hp up and then i kept using magic missles and then He died and then... victory!

If you want a really easy way to kill dragons then use finger of death if you have it, though there are much better ways. if you are really stuck, leave it and come back when you are much higher level. i left all teh dragons until i was level 17 and then they were really easy.

Actually I defeated the dragon at level 10 quite easily as follows. I had acquired a number of wands of lightning, which I had so far failed to use, due to the fact that bounce all over the shop. 3 in fact is what I had. (toss the holy hand grenade, sorry just remembered a bit from Monty Python). Anyway, arranged my group in a semi-circle, summoned some fodder and while the dragon was preoccupied, hit him with a load of lightning. It didn't bounce back and caused loadsa damage. He was dead after a few rounds (admittedly I drained two of the wands, but hey....)