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TheDutkanator 06-27-2001 06:20 PM

I'm creating a new kit called the Demon Knight. I need suggestions on what kind of abilities to give them. Level drain is a definite. Infravision too. What else?

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TheDutkanator 06-28-2001 01:20 PM

Doesn't ANYONE know what abilities a demon knight should get!!??

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Avatar 06-28-2001 01:29 PM

Fight a couple and you'll know.

Fireball, Confusion, Fear....blah

IE will tell ya.

TheDutkanator 06-28-2001 02:52 PM

Creatures can't level up. The deomn knights in the game would be too powerful to use at the beginning and too weak at the end. Besides, a playable character should unique of other characters, NPC's, and creatures in the game. I don't WANT this one to have the exact same abilities of the creature demon knights.

This is what I have:
100% Fire Resist
20% Magic Resist, 30% at LV 15, +10% every 5 LV's after that
True Seeing (Detect Invisible)
Infravision
Immunity to Normal Weapons at LV 15, +1 weapons at LV 30, +2 weapons at LV 45
Regenerate 1 HP/round (6 secs)
+30 Lore
+1 Strength
Level Drain 1 level per succesful hit (working on this one now)
Demon Fire (Weaker Sunfire & Fire Shield Red with shorter duration at same time)

-4 Charisma
Only Human, Half-Elf, or Half-Orc
Only Neutral or Chaotic Evil

I still need a penalty or so to tone down this kit. Any Ideas?

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Dramnek_Ulk 06-28-2001 03:08 PM

the kit you've got there is so powerful you ought to have a disadvantage like not being able to healed by Magic, or unable to use potions and magic items or
something like an aura of evil which gives -10 penalty to reaction rolls

and it was 2nd editon manueal. and i've even tryed to be helpful see.
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TheDutkanator 06-28-2001 03:16 PM

Thanks, very helpful. It obviously came form the monstrous manual. Which edition? Is there a DEMON Knight listed, or just the DEATH Knight. There IS a difference. The Death Knight is, basically, an undead paladin/warrior. The Demon Knight is a hell spawn. Typically never existing as a mortal of Faerun.

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TheDutkanator 06-28-2001 03:29 PM

Can't be healed by magic or potions is good. I think I'll use the magic one, but I'm not sure about potions. So, there are probably several ways to do this. Do you know the easiest? Protection from Spells is what I was thinking, but I'd have to enter each spell individually.

NO SUGGESTIONS WILL BE BALKED AT, CRITICIZED, OR REJECTED!

I'm not good at disadvantages and need all the help I can get.

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Gwhanos, Lord Of Evil 06-28-2001 05:59 PM

Have a custom portrait, and have a custom paper doll (if possible)

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TheDutkanator 06-28-2001 06:41 PM

It uses the demon knight paper doll. As for a custom portrait, I use Darth Maul, but I think everyone will want to use their own portraits. I suggest one from the movie "Spawn".

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Kargon 06-28-2001 10:31 PM

How do you make these kits and where can i download made ones(if there even is a site)

homsuplee 06-28-2001 10:32 PM

Summon lesser demons. 1x/day per level.
Summon up some Balors, Pit fiends, succubi, erinye, hellcats, etc.
Don't make level drain on every hit, make it a special ability like stunning fist.

Take out the alignment penalty. Make it any evil. And don't call it "Demon" knight. How about "Unholy Champion" or some such. "Blackguard" hearkens to 3E.

Reviewed your kit, too much magic resist. 2% per level after level 10, with levels 1-10 not counting towards your cumulative level.

Also eliminate the race penalty. (I prefer 3E in this matter, because prestige classes not-withstanding, anybody should be able to do anything they want to. There is no reason a plate mail clad fighter cant at least TRY to sneak around). All sentient mortal beings have the ability for depravity and have the seed of darkness within them.



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Lifetime 06-29-2001 02:29 AM

Do they have to be accurate to PnP rules?
Why not give him resistance to elemental damage (fire, ice, lightning) and uh..the ability to cast fear at a saving throw of -4 or something. Or the ability to paralyse like a ghoul?
I dont know what a demon knight is like in PnP but those sound pretty demonish..

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