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Ziroc 06-14-2001 04:57 AM

It's the same loser, the same guy that has no life, and must post here because he is SO jealous of us all.. hahah.. Below is his ISP Info, email his ISP here:
abuse@telstra.net
his ISP is: http://telstra.com.au/bigpond/direct/

All Moderators email some of the posts to them for proof. The more emails they get, the quicker this loser loses his ISP account.

Mr. Bagman has no idea how well we can track his ass now with this NEW forum software.

used : 203.44.9.90 as posting account.
Location: Canberra
We have LOTS of Aussie friends here, maybe they would like to visit him? http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

CIA--friends report this:
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NAME: David James Winter
AGE: 16 (17 now)
DOB: Oct 16 1984, possibly Oct 22
ADDRESS: xxxxxxxxxxx, Emerald, Victoria
PHONE NUMBER: (03) xxxx 5008
SCHOOL: Haileybury College Keysborough/Senior Campus
SCHOOL YEAR: Year 10 (now ?)
PERSON TO CONTACT: Mark Foyster, Head of IT Department
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Anyone? I blanked out this phone number and real address, if he continues, I WILL post it.. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/hihi.gif

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inetnum: 203.40.0.0 - 203.47.255.255
netname: TELSTRAINTERNET2-AU
descr: Telstra Internet
descr: Locked Bag 5744 <--- Bag too huh?
descr: Canberra
descr: ACT 2601
country: AU
admin-c: GH169-AP
tech-c: GH169-AP
remarks: ** Conversion note - reference 'GH29-AU' changed to 'GH169-AP'
remarks: Record imported from AUNIC as part of AUNIC->APNIC migration
remarks: Please see http://www.apnic.net/db/aunic/
mnt-by: MAINT-AU-GH169-AP
changed: register@aunic.net 19961120
changed: register@aunic.net 20000105
changed: aunic-transfer@apnic.net 20010525
source: APNIC

person: Geoffrey Huston
address: Telstra Internet
address: Locked Bag 5744
address: Canberra
address: ACT 2601
phone: +61 6 248 6165
e-mail: gih@telstra.net
nic-hdl: GH169-AP
remarks: This data originated from AUNIC, and was copied as part of
remarks: the AUNIC to APNIC migration. http://www.apnic.net/db/aunic/
remarks: Original nic-hdl in AUNIC: GH29-AU
mnt-by: MAINT-AU-GH169-AP
changed: register@aunic.net 19951128
changed: aunic-transfer@apnic.net 20010523
source: APNIC

inetnum: 203.40.0.0 - 203.47.255.255
netname: TELSTRAINTERNET2-AU
descr: Telstra Internet
descr: Locked Bag 5744
descr: Canberra
descr: ACT 2601
country: AU
admin-c: GH29-AU
changed: register@aunic.net 19961120
changed: register@aunic.net 20000105
source: AUNIC

person: Geoffrey Huston
address: Telstra Internet
address: Locked Bag 5744
address: Canberra
address: ACT 2601
phone: +61 6 248 6165
e-mail: gih@telstra.net
nic-hdl: GH29-AU
changed: register@aunic.net 19951128
source: AUNIC
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Ziroc 06-14-2001 05:01 AM

If any other FBI or CIA are out there and can help in the future, just drop me a email, and give me your BNI... OFF duty of course. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

Dundee Slaytern 06-14-2001 05:42 AM

WOW! You guys almost elevated this troll to FBI Top 10 most wanted or something. @_@!!!!

But 3 cheers nevertheless! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

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Memnoch 06-14-2001 05:50 AM

Good stuff, Ziroc. Make sure the subnet gets banned too, so that he can't use another computer in his school lab. In a funny sort of way, I would LOVE it if this teenage hacker wannabe tried to log on from his home. Now THAT would be brilliant.

Telstra has very high penalties for this type of stuff in Australia. Bagman if you're reading this, don't screw up your HSC by doing this - your only other option would be to become a toilet cleaner, and I doubt if you would make the grade, mate.

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Cloudbringer 06-14-2001 07:18 AM

Hello Z!

As usual, it's reassuring to see http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...-mycat-anm.gif!!!!!!
Good of you to find all that nice info on the bagboy for us! Don't you just hate it when a guest wears out their welcome and won't take "GET OUT OF MY FORUM" seriously?! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif

Cloudy

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Lord Shield 06-14-2001 07:50 AM

I blinked. What did the tosspot do?

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Draggor 06-14-2001 09:57 AM

When the hell did he come back?

Melusine 06-14-2001 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lord Shield:
I blinked. What did the tosspot do?


Lord Shield,
BigBagger was our Forum's first troll http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif he was a major pain in the *** in the old forum, until Ziroc banned him. Now it seems he has returned but I'm sure Ziroc will ban him just as quickly as last time http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif



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Bristowe 06-14-2001 11:37 AM

Haha, Haileybury huh? what a loser...Haileybury AND Melbourne high guys are all the same, a bunch of f**kers...gee heh. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

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jabidas 06-14-2001 06:55 PM

Never ever heard of the guy, but isnt it just a little cruel to post that kind of info.

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Shadowblade 06-14-2001 07:04 PM

Oh lets go more in-depth

What did he start posting? I NEVER SAW ANY OF HIS MESSAGES, WHEN DID HE POST THEM?

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Memnoch 06-14-2001 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jabidas:
Never ever heard of the guy, but isnt it just a little cruel to post that kind of info.


You don't know the history, jabidas.

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jabidas 06-14-2001 08:00 PM

Perhaps your right Memnoch but still putting this stuff out has go to be a little wrong especially spamming him that way. I mean are we any better to send Mr random freak junk emails so he loses his ISP , it just seems like the kind of thing he would do.

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Ziroc 06-14-2001 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jabidas:
Never ever heard of the guy, but isnt it just a little cruel to post that kind of info.

No, it's not.



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Ziroc 06-14-2001 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jabidas:
Perhaps your right Memnoch but still putting this stuff out has go to be a little wrong especially spamming him that way. I mean are we any better to send Mr random freak junk emails so he loses his ISP , it just seems like the kind of thing he would do.

As Mem said, you don't know who this is, we DO. He comes here to make trouble. period. You need to understand what kind of person he is before making judgements on us.



jabidas 06-14-2001 08:31 PM

I saw some of his posts but thats just trolls. Oh by the way Im not judging you I dont judge anyone. My problem is invasion of privacy and lowering ourselves to troll tactics thats all, im not going to argue with you about oh what an evil person he is I just wont spam him and I dont think anyone should. Ignoring him is the worst thing you can do to him.

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Melusine 06-14-2001 08:43 PM

Jabidas, all we are trying to do is try and get this person banned from his provider, hence the emails. That's not intruding upon his privacy, that's the logical consequense of being a troll and continuing to flame people. This guy has a long long history here, and has managed to piss off everybody on the board. I believe his data were posted here before (on the old board) so if he really cares so much about his privacy, why did he post again? He knew we could track down his personal data and post them here.
I do understand your concern, but let me assure you that Ziroc and Memnoch are handling this effectively and properly, ok? http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

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Wah 06-14-2001 08:44 PM

My God!

What the hell is HE doing back here?http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...s/confused.gif

The last time we saw this guys was in the old blue forums. Yes I was there too - and I thought he'd given up.

That guy has got some guts - and this is not meant in a positive way.

Good job Ziroc - you nabbed him just in time.



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Wah 06-14-2001 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Melusine:
Jabidas, all we are trying to do is try and get this person banned from his provider, hence the emails. That's not intruding upon his privacy, that's the logical consequense of being a troll and continuing to flame people. This guy has a long long history here, and has managed to piss off everybody on the board. I believe his data were posted here before (on the old board) so if he really cares so much about his privacy, why did he post again? He knew we could track down his personal data and post them here.
I do understand your concern, but let me assure you that Ziroc and Memnoch are handling this effectively and properly, ok? http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif


Melusine.......history repeats itself.

But I have a gutsy feeling that the location isn't quite right.
He said London before, now Australia - I may have a feeling that this isn't going to be just a fish-in-the-barrel kind of thing. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif

PS: hold on - I'm searching the post to confirm my suspicions.

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Ziroc 06-14-2001 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jabidas:
I saw some of his posts but thats just trolls. Oh by the way Im not judging you I dont judge anyone. My problem is invasion of privacy and lowering ourselves to troll tactics thats all, im not going to argue with you about oh what an evil person he is I just wont spam him and I dont think anyone should. Ignoring him is the worst thing you can do to him.

No, the worst thing I can do is scare the crap out of him, and let HIM know I know who he is. Something like that turns cowards away QUICK, and I don't have time to deal with that loser. nuff said.



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jabidas 06-14-2001 08:50 PM

I sure as hell dont want to be in an argument about this but I wouldnt like to see our webmasters in court for posting that stuff. My other huge problem is are we any better using spam tactics. Its a troll kind of thing I know hed sure as hell enjoy getting us banned from our ISP so why bother claim higher moral ground when were about to do it to him.

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Ziroc 06-14-2001 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wah:
Quote:

Originally posted by Melusine:
Jabidas, all we are trying to do is try and get this person banned from his provider, hence the emails. That's not intruding upon his privacy, that's the logical consequense of being a troll and continuing to flame people. This guy has a long long history here, and has managed to piss off everybody on the board. I believe his data were posted here before (on the old board) so if he really cares so much about his privacy, why did he post again? He knew we could track down his personal data and post them here.
I do understand your concern, but let me assure you that Ziroc and Memnoch are handling this effectively and properly, ok? http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif


Melusine.......history repeats itself.

But I have a gutsy feeling that the location isn't quite right.
He said London before, now Australia - I may have a feeling that this isn't going to be just a fish-in-the-barrel kind of thing. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif

PS: hold on - I'm searching the post to confirm my suspicions.



No, he WAS in Australia, I remember that ISP and the school http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif, just think though, this guy is 17 or 18 now, and STILL acts like a little kid. VERY sad. His parents must be proud. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif

Wah 06-14-2001 08:57 PM

My memory fails me - thank you Ziroc.

Although there wasn't a conclusion anyway since all the previous posts are not there anymore. (I think that is best, since we wouldn't want to ruin our newer members)

Now........toilet cleaner? (This ring some bells......http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...s/rolleyes.gif )



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Lord of Alcohol 06-14-2001 09:06 PM

Jabidas, Bag Buggerer deserves every bit he gets. His sole purpose is to cause trouble and insult new people on the boards. I had just signed on the boards on his first round, I'm sure he ran a couple people off by his posts. Apperently he holds a grudge over his banning since this was last october. Gotta agree with Z on this one

jabidas 06-14-2001 09:13 PM

Oh dont misunderstand me im all for banning the creepy weirdo but I dont agree with spamming him in the hope to geting his ISP to ban him or posting his personal information. Trolls like this gimp should be banned and left alone then, not continuing the war.

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Lord of Alcohol 06-14-2001 09:15 PM

I think of it as an effective scare tactic, with search and destroy connotations

jabidas 06-14-2001 09:19 PM

Yeah but if the details are any way accurate he can take the ziroc to court for invasion of privacy.

How about we just leave him well enough alone. Im going to bed soon so Im not going to argue this any longer.

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Lord of Alcohol 06-14-2001 09:20 PM

Ok nite nite I have to be up at 5am I'm off too. Does this mean we are sleeping together?

jabidas 06-14-2001 09:23 PM

Whatever you say Lover.

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Lord of Alcohol 06-14-2001 09:26 PM

Now I can sleep LOL nice reply seeya!

Wah 06-14-2001 09:32 PM

Sounds reasonable to me, but what rule is there on violation of privacy if the law demands he justifies his own actions?

Don't forget - 'he' posted here with the deliberate knowledge that he was going to abuse the Ironwork Forum rules - so who's violating who? http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...s/rolleyes.gif

I do agree, that if we leave him alone and expose him: he might stop. But jabidas, we learnt that mistake from the old forums.



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Wah 06-14-2001 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lord of Alcohol:
Now I can sleep LOL nice reply seeya!
Ahem........no commenthttp://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...s/rolleyes.gif, I need to be getting back to me own coffin too. Hopefully there aren't any rats this time.http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif


Memnoch 06-15-2001 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jabidas:
Oh dont misunderstand me im all for banning the creepy weirdo but I dont agree with spamming him in the hope to geting his ISP to ban him or posting his personal information. Trolls like this gimp should be banned and left alone then, not continuing the war.


Jabidas, you're entitled to your own opinion. So are we. And read the title of Ziroc's post before you pass judgment on us http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif we're not spamming him or emailing him. I'm not going to waste any time typing out an email to him. We are emailing his ISP with letters of complaint about the types of activities he has been up to on our forum, the same way you would complain to a taxi company if the driver did not follow your instructions and was rude and abrasive. ISPs disallow this type of behaviour in their Terms and Conditions (I'm moving to Telstra so I know their Terms and Conditions).

With respect to continuing the war...what war? There's no war. The person now banned was previously banned last year for posts that were significantly worse than what you saw, which were direct attacks on other posters here. HE made the decision to come back and continue. Like I said before, you don't know the history so you can't make a value judgment on why we decided to do what we did.

Finally - I know this guy was posting from a school computer lab and I have the name of the IT department head of his school. I won't do anything with it but if he comes back and continues this type of disruptive behaviour, I will.

However, your comments and perspective are always appreciated, mate. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif


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Ziroc 06-15-2001 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jabidas:
I sure as hell dont want to be in an argument about this but I wouldnt like to see our webmasters in court for posting that stuff. My other huge problem is are we any better using spam tactics. Its a troll kind of thing I know hed sure as hell enjoy getting us banned from our ISP so why bother claim higher moral ground when were about to do it to him.

The ISP I have I talk to via email all the time now.. they know we well, and you gotta be joking.. Sueing us? I wish... I'd go after him so quick....


Ziroc 06-15-2001 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jabidas:
Oh dont misunderstand me im all for banning the creepy weirdo but I dont agree with spamming him in the hope to geting his ISP to ban him or posting his personal information. Trolls like this gimp should be banned and left alone then, not continuing the war.

The only way to get an ISP to cut his account IS TO email their ISP. It is NOT spam. Give me a break.


Ziroc 06-15-2001 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Memnoch:
if he comes back and continues this type of disruptive behaviour, I will.
However, your comments and perspective are always appreciated, mate. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

He came back, using a friends ISP I think, banned again, go ahead a launch a FULL email to the IT lab/school too http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif



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Link 06-15-2001 08:44 AM

So he's just an ignorant fool, and we need to kick his ass??

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Earthdog 06-15-2001 09:11 AM

Well if what Ziroc said, and i recall it being something about hacking, Australia has VERY stiff penalties on hacking. If he keeps pushing it and it goes to court he'll get about 15 years for hacking. They dont play around here.
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Memnoch 06-15-2001 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Earthdog:
Well if what Ziroc said, and i recall it being something about hacking, Australia has VERY stiff penalties on hacking. If he keeps pushing it and it goes to court he'll get about 15 years for hacking. They dont play around here.
Not that any of us would care http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif


Big bagger's not a HAXOR, he's a wannabe tryhard who thinks that by using a new computer and logging on with a different name he is somehow "hacking" into other people's websites. He's not a hacker, cracker or phreaker by any means.

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Memnoch 06-15-2001 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ziroc:
The only way to get an ISP to cut his account IS TO email their ISP. It is NOT spam. Give me a break.


Z, I think Jabidas misunderstood you and thought you wanted ppl to email Baghead, not the ISP. As if anyone would waste their time typing out an email to an N'Tel-Quess (Not-Person). I have more important things to do, like cut my toenails. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

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