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debiler 05-23-2001 11:50 AM

As I found out since I´ve been visiting this forum, I´m not the only Nalia-hater. So I decided to open a thread to kick some noble Robin Hood-like NPC ass. There may be several opinions about that...(I´m looking forward to reading the replies, really)

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Jerome 05-23-2001 12:02 PM

WHY THE HELL DID THEY MAKE HER A DUAL CLASS THEIF????

SHE IS UTTERLY PATHETIC! CANT OPEN A SINGLE LOCK OR DISARM A SINGLE TRAP!!!

AND SHE KEEPS WHINING ABOUT THE POOR AND HELPLESS!! GRRRRR! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...les/mad111.gif

*loads up shotgun* http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...l_laughter.gif

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Lord Shield 05-23-2001 12:04 PM

Maybe it's an endurance test. Put up with a useless, whining, neurotic waste fo space for as long as you can

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Jerome 05-23-2001 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lord Shield:
Maybe it's an endurance test. Put up with a useless, whining, neurotic waste fo space for as long as you can


Have you ever had Nalia and Arie in a party at once?
TORTURE!!!!!

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Throntar 05-23-2001 12:10 PM

I must admit that I don't care for her mewling either. However, fortunately, she pretty much shuts up after her quest(s) is/are over. I stuck with her due to the lack of good-aligned mages in the game. She is now my most powerful Archmage...along with one hell of a guerilla warfare expert.

Staff of magi (invisibility) + Stoneskin + Robe of Vecna + Sequencer(for lower resistance and Greater Malaison) + Finger of Death/Abi Dazim's/Delayed-blast Fireball = Dead anything... http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

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Jerome 05-23-2001 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Throntar:
I must admit that I don't care for her mewling either. However, fortunately, she pretty much shuts up after her quest(s) is/are over. I stuck with her due to the lack of good-aligned mages in the game. She is now my most powerful Archmage...along with one hell of a guerilla warfare expert.

Staff of magi (invisibility) + Stoneskin + Robe of Vecna + Sequencer(for lower resistance and Greater Malaison) + Finger of Death/Abi Dazim's/Delayed-blast Fireball = Dead anything... http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif


Edwin could kick her ass.......and he's got a cool personality into the bargain...http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif


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AzureWolf 05-23-2001 01:02 PM

LOL is this counted as a Nalia flaming thread???

If so i'll be happy to support it even under threat of evictionhttp://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

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Avatar 05-23-2001 01:27 PM

What????!!! what is this doing here!
I have both Nalia and Aerie in my party. They never complain!
Why does everyone hate Nalia??!!
The whole point of thieves dualing to Mages so that mages can use shortbows and
longswords!

Wah 05-23-2001 01:47 PM

I TOOK AERIE AND NALIA:
Nalia: Aerie, are you okay?
Aerie: Ooooooooh my pain, it hurts so much!
Nalia: Someone get over here! We need a cleric!
Aerie: No, it's okay nalia - I can heal myself. (heals herself with cure light wounds)

Wah: Finger Of Death: Nalia
Nalia: Death

Wah: SPEAK WHEN YOU'RE SPOKEN TO! MY CLERICS ARE NOT YOUR BUSINESS!http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

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Wah 05-23-2001 01:50 PM

<h1>Nalia: "How Are We Helping The Less Fortunate Trudging Around In Here?"</h1>

Arch Lich Wah: Ahem............excuse me Nalia, this is "your" home. You TOLD us to come here to get rid of your trolls............remember? http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gifhttp://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif LOL

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Epona 05-23-2001 02:42 PM

Nalia's really good - provided you turn your speakers off!
She is a great mage with the bonus that she can use short bows because she is dual class thief (equip her with Tansheron bow for best effect).

I almost always have both Nalia and Aerie in my group, the whining is annoying, but if you have a good aligned group you can do no better for mages.

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Black Knight 05-23-2001 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wah:
<h2>Nalia: "How Are We Helping The Less Fortunate Trudging Around In Here?"</h2>

Arch Lich Wah: Ahem............excuse me Nalia, this is "your" home. You TOLD us to come here to get rid of your trolls............remember? http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gifhttp://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif LOL


LOL http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif True, very true

BK

Dramnek_Ulk 05-23-2001 03:29 PM

Aerie is the worst as there arnt even supposed to be any Averiel left in fayroon as the last one flew west 1000's of years ago. And nalia wont be able to cast level 9 spells nor aerie cast spells above level 7 beacuse of their low inteligence.

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debiler 05-23-2001 03:39 PM

Yep, it´s a neverending story...

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Accord 05-23-2001 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Epona:
Nalia's really good - provided you turn your speakers off!
She is a great mage with the bonus that she can use short bows because she is dual class thief (equip her with Tansheron bow for best effect).

I almost always have both Nalia and Aerie in my group, the whining is annoying, but if you have a good aligned group you can do no better for mages.


Agree!! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif
And Nalia is a good substitute for Imoen, but I usually ended up having all 3 in my good aligned party.

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Shypaw 05-23-2001 03:50 PM

I agree that Nalia can be annoying, but she has been a great addition to my team so far. If fact, she and Aerie have the best kill ratio after Minsc. My pc is a druid that has a hard time staying alive. I just rescued Imoen so I had to removed her from my party, but I'm sad to see her go.

Me- Totem Druid
Minsc
Jeheira
Aerie - Love interest
Valygar
Nalia/Imoen

jabidas 05-23-2001 03:52 PM

Okay first of all all you have to do is buy a potion of genius to write highlevels spells for them and anyway in the addon lums the mads machine will let us upgrade stats

I really like aerie a lot but nalia makes we want to vomit and then tear her head off so i can send it to auntie dearest in the post(those of you who have done that quest for her will who im referring to).

The only thing I like about her is the develoers were merciful and didnt put in some hideous romance option for her(although i heard someone did make one as well as one for imoen only masochists need apply).


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Dramnek_Ulk 05-23-2001 04:03 PM

you dont get spell slots for level 9 if your intelilegence is below 18 potions of genius etc. Will allow you to learn spells but not cast.




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Talvin 05-23-2001 04:09 PM

At first I couldnt figure out why people hated her so much.... that changed last night when I quested with her. OMG she is driving me up a wall. In regards to Aerie, I have Viv in my party and let me tell ya, those two get into some great conversations.

Jerome 05-23-2001 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Talvin:
At first I couldnt figure out why people hated her so much.... that changed last night when I quested with her. OMG she is driving me up a wall. In regards to Aerie, I have Viv in my party and let me tell ya, those two get into some great conversations.
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Tancred 05-23-2001 05:25 PM

What? Nooooo! Nalia's an incredible character! Believe me, Nalia and Imoen make one hell of a scouting party. Load 'em up with powerful short bows, give them a decent short sword each, cast Tenser's Transformation and charge in with the rest of the party. Try a grand total of 36 magic missile blasts at once to a single target courtesy of two Sequencers, one each. BZZAP!

Tancred

Wah 05-23-2001 05:37 PM

Imoen = Yes

Nalia = No

I do not take a woman in my party who's smile looks like the weathered backside of a pregnant cow.

She can go and stick her bow sideways inside her mouth: it'll help with her scrotum-like face. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif

But Imoen on the other hand is generous, happy, witty and care-free.
She gets my position any timehttp://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

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Neb 05-23-2001 07:00 PM

I hate Nalia she is always whining, always reminding everyone that she is "Noble" and everyone is just a "Commoner", damn b*tch, Aerie on the other hand is one of the most ultimatest NPC's in the game! Imoen is kewl too, currently I am trying a new party which is:

Me(Sorcerer)
Minsc(Of course)
Jan(Of course)
Jaheira
Imoen
Aerie

This party kicks some serious A$$!
Both Jan, Minsc and Imoen are using two weapons! They tear my enemies to shreds!
Fear me Irenicus!!!!!!

debiler 05-23-2001 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Neb:
I hate Nalia she is always whining, always reminding everyone that she is "Noble" and everyone is just a "Commoner", damn b*tch, Aerie on the other hand is one of the most ultimatest NPC's in the game! Imoen is kewl too, currently I am trying a new party which is:

Me(Sorcerer)
Minsc(Of course)
Jan(Of course)
Jaheira
Imoen
Aerie

This party kicks some serious A$$!
Both Jan, Minsc and Imoen are using two weapons! They tear my enemies to shreds!
Fear me Irenicus!!!!!!

That´s the way! Someone who likes Aerie, finally. But don´t you think it´s pretty f***ed up that Minsc claims Aerie to be his witch?



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Lord Shield 05-23-2001 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wah:

I do not take a woman in my party who's smile looks like the weathered backside of a pregnant cow.

She can go and stick her bow sideways inside her mouth: it'll help with her scrotum-like face. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif


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pregnant cow? I thought it was more like a bulldog licking piss off a nettle


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Talvin 05-23-2001 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Neb:
I hate Nalia she is always whining, always reminding everyone that she is "Noble" and everyone is just a "Commoner", damn b*tch, Aerie on the other hand is one of the most ultimatest NPC's in the game! Imoen is kewl too, currently I am trying a new party which is:

Me(Sorcerer)
Minsc(Of course)
Jan(Of course)
Jaheira
Imoen
Aerie

This party kicks some serious A$$!
Both Jan, Minsc and Imoen are using two weapons! They tear my enemies to shreds!
Fear me Irenicus!!!!!!

That is very close to how my party will look, except I'm a Paladin and will have Vic instead of Jan. Think this will make for an awsome group. Yea she is evil and I am good, but like a moth to a flame.....

Back to the subject at hand. You know we all should have known Nalia was an idiot from the moment we met her and she says something to the effect of "Wont you help me? I helped you! You should help me!". Yea wench, like I REALLY needed your help killing a couple of punk Thugs. If that was the case I should retire now and find a nice field to plow.

Grand-Ranger 05-23-2001 07:40 PM

HEHE!!!


This will be fun,mabye i will mkae a Anomen bashing thread?

Anyway,Nalia is a good sub. for imoen? Uhh in one word,no. Maybe that both have the same int and what not,but Imoen is SOOOO much easy to be around...


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and she is your sister.How can you leave her behind?


Aerie-Well she can be alright,good adition to the party,but she is not a must have like Minsc or Jan,or Imoen.

Talvin 05-23-2001 07:56 PM

Hey one thing you can say about Anomen, he is true to his character. Only someone with an INT of 10 would think its a good idea to dual to a cleric with a Wis of 12.

O and as far as Jan being a must have... hmmmm... I havent used him yet, but he is a Gnome, so that right there rules him out from staying full time. We will see when the time comes, maybe I drop Vic and keep him, but thats doubtful.

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Neb 05-23-2001 09:14 PM

Jan is a must-have, he has special goggles which can detect invisibility, he can cast spells, he is a pretty good thief, and unlike Nalia and Imoen his thief-skills get better, if you give him the red dragon sword, and the Katana+2 he is a real terror, and with Bracers AC 4 he can cast spells at the same time, especially if he also has the Robe Of The Neutral Archmagi, oh yeah, I almost forgot Jan's best ability and the thing that makes him a must-have, his funny stories! "Y'know Valygar, my aunt was a ranger too, she had a shadow dragon called Blackie" http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif seriously, he is hilarious sometimes.

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caleb 05-23-2001 10:17 PM

behind a house in the bridge district. Oh yea NALIA SUCKS!!!

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Grand-Ranger 05-23-2001 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Talvin:
Hey one thing you can say about Anomen, he is true to his character. Only someone with an INT of 10 would think its a good idea to dual to a cleric with a Wis of 12.

O and as far as Jan being a must have... hmmmm... I havent used him yet, but he is a Gnome, so that right there rules him out from staying full time. We will see when the time comes, maybe I drop Vic and keep him, but thats doubtful.

[This message has been edited by Talvin (edited 05-23-2001).]

LOL about anomen


as far as Jan not being a must have,,well sure he is,good theif,good mage,funny charecter.Speical abiltys. Exellent equiment. and he is a gnome,that makes rules him in for being full time. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

Memnoch 05-24-2001 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wah:
Nalia = No

I do not take a woman in my party who's smile looks like the weathered backside of a pregnant cow.

She can go and stick her bow sideways inside her mouth: it'll help with her scrotum-like face. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif


C'mon, Wah! Surely you jest. Don't you think she looks like Drew Barrymore? http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/noncgi/smiles/338.gif

Those cute little brown eyes...

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Earthdog 05-24-2001 04:31 AM

I wonder if Nalia has any STD's or anything. Maybe she got herpes from some happy little halfling. Gonherea from a Gnome. What an udderly ( http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif )useless wench. Too bad she cant be run over by a covered wagon then stomped on by a heerd of rampaging kangaroos lol

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Earthdog 05-24-2001 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wah:
Imoen = Yes

Nalia = No

I do not take a woman in my party who's smile looks like the weathered backside of a pregnant cow.

She can go and stick her bow sideways inside her mouth: it'll help with her scrotum-like face. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif

I couldnt agree more. actually I asgree with everything youvee said about Nalia. Shes annoying. PERIOD.

But Imoen on the other hand is generous, happy, witty and care-free.
She gets my position any timehttp://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif



Rolzi_69 05-24-2001 05:33 AM

Nalia is a bitch.

debiler 05-24-2001 06:59 AM

...and a moron.

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Neb 05-24-2001 07:14 AM

It would be nice to be able to cast a Gate spell and then just as the gate opens to shove Nalia through and quickly close the gate again so she ends up in the Abyss, or Baator, or Limbo, or maybe just in Sigil right in the Lady's shadow http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif.

Avatar 05-24-2001 09:47 AM

I like Nalia...is there no one else that agrees?

DonkeyWan 05-24-2001 10:00 AM

I actually like anomen (or whatever), he just beat up Jon Irenicus on his own. At this stage he has an armour class of -10 and over 120 hit points, which I reckon is good. He can take dragons on his own. Cast summon champion +flail of ages and he really goes to town. + he can heal himself and does some terrible damage with his cleric abilities, he really is the ultimate tank in my team.

Throntar 05-24-2001 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dramnek_Ulk:
you dont get spell slots for level 9 if your intelilegence is below 18 potions of genius etc. Will allow you to learn spells but not cast.




erm...sorry Dramnek...but I think that you're mistaken. If Nalia can't cast 9th level spells due to her 17 INT, then why is she casting them in my party now (XP cap remover)?

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