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hailitho 05-14-2001 09:45 PM

Wow, I sure am meeting quite a few more NPC's then I remember doing in BG1.

my party is
me thf
nalia
minsc
anomen
aeria
jaheira

I was thinking of getting rid of anomen coz hes so damn annoying, with telling me what's the right thing to do. But keldorn himself is a pal so he might also do the same. Which one should I get?

Gimlee 05-14-2001 09:59 PM

You can get Korgan. He's the best fighter in the game. But if you really want to play a good team, go with Keldorn, cause your low on tanks.

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Reeka 05-14-2001 10:11 PM

Definitely lose Anomen and get Keldorn. If you have Keldorn you can get Carsomyr and use it! Well worth the trouble. Keldorm is much easier to get along with than Anomen.

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hailitho 05-14-2001 10:13 PM

If I get keldorn inplace of Anomen who do i take out for Korgen when I get him?

Reeka 05-14-2001 10:26 PM

If you're a thief and you've got Jaheira and Aerie, I would lose Nalia. I hate her anyway. Carsomyr is the best sword in the game.

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Grand-Ranger 05-14-2001 11:49 PM

Yes lose anomen,,get keldorn...no dont just get rid of anomen,,,KILL HIM!! Yes!! Disengrate him if possible,or fireball will do nicley,,i loved a burnt Anomen corpse..

caleb 05-15-2001 12:36 AM

Korgan and keldorn got along in my games but I have never had them together for a whole game. Keldorn does not like how korgan acts but he respects his fighting skills.

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Accord 05-15-2001 01:02 AM

Might want to reconsider getting Korgan, due to alignment and certain party members...

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Floraowe 05-15-2001 01:17 AM

Quote:

Yes lose anomen,,get keldorn...no dont just get rid of anomen,,,KILL HIM!! Yes!! Disengrate him if possible,or fireball will do nicley,,i loved a burnt Anomen corpse..
Yes, yes, yes!!!! Better yet, do his quest the "wrong" way so that Anomen has to spend the rest of his life in the depths of mental anguish. Then, after he has lived a life of despair and emotional torture, disintegrate his hideous hide. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

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Zateel 05-15-2001 05:37 AM

Another vote for Keldorn! His truesight ability is also useful when fighting mages who use mislead or such so that your spellcasters "can't target invisible or sanctuaried creatures" especially if you're trying to breach the protections. Plus the super high level dispel magic, plus the Carsomyr weilding. Physically he is a wuss compared to Korgan, but if you give him a strength item (like you can find at the Adventurers Mart at the beginning of the game) and gauntlets of dexterity or something (or Shadowkeeper modify a little, if it's ethically okay with you) he is really great. Like Accord said, your party probably wouldn't get along too well with Korgan because of his alignment, but I've never played him- so I can't be sure (all my parties are good).

Lord Shield 05-15-2001 07:55 AM

without spoiling too much, there is a point where Anomen may try to kill Aerie. Keldorn attacks Viconia, but you don't seem to have her in the party

Pennance 05-15-2001 10:15 AM

As I was reading the list I was seriously thinking of adding in the Paladin...then I saw someone mention that he attacks Viconia. Well, there goes that idea... http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif

hailitho 05-15-2001 10:51 AM

LOL, Penn.

dafan 05-15-2001 02:36 PM

Keldorn... absolutly not Anomen if you got Aerie in yout party... you don't need two clerics

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Tom 05-15-2001 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Reeka:
If you're a thief and you've got Jaheira and Aerie, I would lose Nalia. I hate her anyway. Carsomyr is the best sword in the game.


I find Crom Faer much better! Stastically, in is f*uckin cheap though!

Grand-Ranger 05-15-2001 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom:
I find Crom Faer much better! Stastically, in is f*uckin cheap though!
Crom Faer is a Hammer not sword,he said best sword in the game


Reeka 05-15-2001 03:13 PM

Just a small thing Grand-Ranger, but I'm a she not a he.

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Avatar 05-15-2001 03:15 PM

I f you don't care about casting dispel magic and true sight in a tick and using the +5 Holy avenger, then choose crappy Anomen. Unless you are a paladin.

debiler 05-15-2001 04:00 PM

Why o why does noone like Anomen? Give him the flail of ages and some fine piece of armor and he really is a reliable fighter. Another advantage is that he can use holy smite spells which work very fine against groups of dumb evil creatures. And he´s got a pretty cool history in the game.

ShadowUK 05-15-2001 04:05 PM

Poor Anomen,
but afterall he isn't very good....... http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

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Floraowe 05-15-2001 05:18 PM

Whatever limited uses Anomen might have, he's still a big pompous idiot with slimy toad-hands (all IMO, of course).

Glycerine 05-15-2001 06:08 PM

I agree with the first reply...go with Korgan. Dual-wielding axes...mmmmm...

Glycerine

Lord Shield 05-15-2001 06:13 PM

It still makes me chuckle that, after sleeping with Anomen (in the game), Fjotsdale felt dirty anbd re-loaded before this sordid event http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gifhttp://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gifhttp://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

Accord 05-15-2001 06:44 PM

A sensible choice..... http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...s/biglaugh.gif

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Like I said before, if you decide to take Korgan, you will be forced (at some time...random) to pick to side with either Aerie or Korgan....also, if you fail Anomen on his "test" http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...l_laughter.gif , when he attakes Aerie (if she is Minsc's witch), Minsc and Boo will do some "butt kicking for goodness". Which is simply priceless moment for me.....

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Gargoyle 05-15-2001 08:10 PM

I can't believe people keep Nalia, shes absoloutley useless, GET RID OF HER, Anomen isn't that bad, but definatley pick up Keldorn !

Your part would then be Kick ass.

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WOLFGIR 05-16-2001 04:40 AM

MHO

Anomen, you can have him and Keldorn in your party and just walk around alittle.. Hehe Keldorn is giving him a tough time hehehe...

Keldorn is better but Anomen has his uses in being a cleric. I would suggest to get the Drow instead, that spices up things alot ehe..

Nalia is way annoying and not that good, Aerie is way better, abit annoying too!, but very useful, good cleric spells and also magic spells. Can be equiped with flail of ages and also take care of herself.

Nalia is safe to loose since you are a thief yourself.
Anomen can be traded for Keldorn, get more dishout efect and some useful spells..

Well save before and try out some combos..

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Soven 05-16-2001 05:04 AM

Hey since u have already started the thread then i guess maybe i could ask some questions here since the forum is already loaded with too much of new topics. =)

i have Me(cavalier), Valygar, Minsc, Aerie,Jaheira and Yoshimo

I had Keldorn in my initial party but the planar sphere quest required Valygar to join my party so i kicked Keldorn out for awhile......
Will Jaheira eventually leave when i have a reputation that is t00 high(20)???She keeps saying,"We must strive to mantain balance".

I am thinking of putting Korgan(dwarwen thrower) into my current party,issit ok?and who should i kick, everyone seems to be useful.i think he will talk even more being the Chaotic person he is in a party with a reputation of 20 heheh

Altranan 05-16-2001 08:30 AM

I think Jahiera is all mouth, I don't think she ever does anything about it.
Personally, I think Anomen is amusing. I realise he has crap stats and is prone to whingeing but I just like the guy. Jaheira annoys me so much more.

Lord Shield 05-16-2001 08:56 AM

You don't need to have Valygar join. You can kill him and take his body to the Planar Sphere

Whailor 05-16-2001 09:08 AM

I did pick Keldorn over Anomen. Not just because Carsomyr - I had Keldorn in my party way before Carsomyr and way before I even knew about Karsomyr.

There's one thing though what most aren't noting: Keldorn's family business? Are ye all really so heartless and let Maria to be imprisoned and Keldorn's life ruined? http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif He had it messed up before already, being either too loyal to his Order and being too blind towards his family. Least I could do, being the benevolent person I am (sort of), was to help to clear things up. Once that was done, I didn't have the heart to call him away from his family and ruin our efforts.. I thanked him for his help and relieved him from my service. I can finish my 'quest' without him, it's my life's work, I don't really have to ruin his life because of that http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

So yes, while Keldorn is good, he ain't there forever to stay. At one moment he/you will have the choice - ruin a family or earn the respect and thanks of the old paladin. I chose the last http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

Whailor

Grand-Ranger 05-16-2001 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Whailor:
I did pick Keldorn over Anomen. Not just because Carsomyr - I had Keldorn in my party way before Carsomyr and way before I even knew about Karsomyr.

There's one thing though what most aren't noting: Keldorn's family business? Are ye all really so heartless and let Maria to be imprisoned and Keldorn's life ruined? http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif He had it messed up before already, being either too loyal to his Order and being too blind towards his family. Least I could do, being the benevolent person I am (sort of), was to help to clear things up. Once that was done, I didn't have the heart to call him away from his family and ruin our efforts.. I thanked him for his help and relieved him from my service. I can finish my 'quest' without him, it's my life's work, I don't really have to ruin his life because of that http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

So yes, while Keldorn is good, he ain't there forever to stay. At one moment he/you will have the choice - ruin a family or earn the respect and thanks of the old paladin. I chose the last http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

Whailor


Acutally if you wait a while you can go back to his house and he will be there waiting for you and you can take him in and will ruin nothing http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

E`bola 05-16-2001 01:33 PM

drop Anomen and take Valygar
with gauntlets of ogre power and two katanas is best fighter

Halbred 05-16-2001 05:17 PM

welcome to the board the both of you... IMHO i would take keldorn mainly because he has the best dispel magic you could ask for http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif The Carsomyr is nice, but his dispel magic is a lifesaver

Robin, Thief of Hearts 05-17-2001 12:50 AM

I must defend Anomen here! Here's why -

He can reach up to level 22 by the endgame, which is a pretty high point.

His poor stats are irrelevant if you trick him out properly - he just needs Gauntlets of Dexterity and a Belt of Strength.
Besides, his power lies mainly in his huge repertoire of Cleric spells. Who needs a strength belt when he can repeatedly cast Call Holy Might?? Who needs a high dexterity when the enemy is powerless against your Sanctuary?

Your main enemies in the game are mostly Undead and Demonic. A Cleric has several natural advantages- Holy Smite and the incinerating Holy Bolt are great, especially when Anomen gets up past level 20. He can take a Dragon out by himself.
In the endgame, you'll see the advantages of this. When facing lesser Undead, he can Turn them, as well.

Not to underestimate the natural uses of Clerical magic in combat - Heals, Rezzing and Restoration are just priceless.

His main drawback is his (rather dull) Quest, and his personality problems. But if you think he's sickening, just try Haer'Dalis. *puke*
After he began to spout poetry at Aerie, I had my monk do him with a poisoned magic ninja-to.
"A solid hit!" was the word as chunky bits of bard went spinning. Yeah!


Grand-Ranger 05-17-2001 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Robin, Thief of Hearts:
I must defend Anomen here! Here's why -

He can reach up to level 22 by the endgame, which is a pretty high point.

His poor stats are irrelevant if you trick him out properly - he just needs Gauntlets of Dexterity and a Belt of Strength.
Besides, his power lies mainly in his huge repertoire of Cleric spells. Who needs a strength belt when he can repeatedly cast Call Holy Might?? Who needs a high dexterity when the enemy is powerless against your Sanctuary?

Your main enemies in the game are mostly Undead and Demonic. A Cleric has several natural advantages- Holy Smite and the incinerating Holy Bolt are great, especially when Anomen gets up past level 20. He can take a Dragon out by himself.
In the endgame, you'll see the advantages of this. When facing lesser Undead, he can Turn them, as well.

Not to underestimate the natural uses of Clerical magic in combat - Heals, Rezzing and Restoration are just priceless.

His main drawback is his (rather dull) Quest, and his personality problems. But if you think he's sickening, just try Haer'Dalis. *puke*
After he began to spout poetry at Aerie, I had my monk do him with a poisoned magic ninja-to.
"A solid hit!" was the word as chunky bits of bard went spinning. Yeah!



thats not the point.Give anyone the gauntles of dex and a belt of str and anyone can be a good fighter.Its his auttiude and his....umm..his...i dont know hes just really unlikeable


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