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Avatar 05-11-2001 02:55 PM

spoiler for late Chapter 7
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I really hate loosing experience and 1 Dex to that stupid demon.
I also want to remain on lawful good.
I don't know if the following works:

1/ Get a fire elemental summoned beyond the first gate and go and kill the demon.
2/ Chuck everyone else rush in and kill the random normal person, but I won't be lawful good.


...any other suggestions.


P.S. Is anyone still playing BG2 the 1st time?

Bruce The Aussie 05-11-2001 03:02 PM

i just did that same thing only 2 or 3 hours ago. i just gave in to the dark side pesonnally but if you want to be a cheater then i can't help.

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Yorick 05-11-2001 03:04 PM

I wouldn't worry about it mate. It's part of the game.

Nobody spoil him please!!!!!

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Avatar 05-11-2001 03:11 PM

Huh? what are you talking about? I've already played BG2 7 times!!!!
I just want to know if there was a way around it without cheating.
Like a neat trick!

Yorick 05-11-2001 03:17 PM

Just trying to help you out mate... how's I to know you'd already done it? Sheesh! Have you ever been spoiled? I have and it sucked big time!

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Avatar 05-11-2001 03:22 PM

sorry no offense meant Yorrick!!!! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif
sooo is there a way around it?

Yorick 05-11-2001 04:13 PM

No worries mate. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

'Can't help you with the trick though' http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif I finished it as both good and evil characters and stayed in alignment each time.

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dafan 05-11-2001 05:10 PM

teleporting http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif... seariously I got no idea

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Tancred 05-11-2001 05:37 PM

You could try having your companion die, and then resurrecting him. Not that I was so craven, o'course.

Tancred

Lord Shield 05-11-2001 06:08 PM

Hey, why not go the whole hog, sacrifice your attribute points and restore them using Shadowkeeper?

Accord 05-11-2001 06:36 PM

Legitly speaking....it is PART OF THE STORY AND THERE IS NO WAY OUT OF THIS....well...except...... http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...l_laughter.gif

SPOILER:
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For the Test of Selflessness, make sure you enable cheat, then after the demon take a random party member or peasant (if you solo), move your mouse cursor to the end of the map where the demon is standing, and hit [ctrl] + [J] with only your character selected. Once you are in the area where the demon and the hostage is, talk to the demon, the hostage lives and you get your Bhaal's Tear. When you leave that room, select your character and the NPC (if not soloing) and move the mouse cursor back to the entrance/exit of the area and hit [ctrl] + [J] again, there...no penalties taken and mission accomplished....

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caleb 05-12-2001 12:40 AM

I think the designers are trying to balance out the attributes of people that used the tomes in bg1 but its sucks for me cause I never played it and losing 1 point of dexterity usually makes you lose a armor class point too. I said ■■■■ that and shadow keepered my dexterity back.

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Avatar 05-12-2001 07:04 AM

Hey! No Cheating was the whole idea of this post!
You can avoid it buy:
Summon powerful Monsters from this side of the door to the other, effectively teleporting and slay the demon!

Avatar 05-12-2001 07:06 AM

Or get minsc to drink couple potions of regeneration!!!!!!!
He won't die!
Or Aeie with chain contingency and healiing spells.

Accord 05-12-2001 11:18 AM

BTW....you CANNOT kill the demon. And if you are saying let Minsc drink a potion of regeneration or Aerie with Chain Contingency (which I don't think either one will work either, and each time the demon randomly choose a party member), then how are you maintaining a Lawful Good alignment?

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Avatar 05-15-2001 03:02 PM

Can't kill the demon? why not?

caleb 05-16-2001 03:12 AM

cause they force you to make a choice between the 2 doors and if you reach him legitly he never gives you a chance to attack.

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Accord 05-16-2001 03:14 AM

If you don't believe me that you CANNOT kill the demon, place your cursor on it and [ctrl] + [Y] it, you'll see what I mean. Or you can force attack it. If you DO manage to kill it (which I doubt it), either your game is bugged or my game is bugged.

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Killer 05-16-2001 03:37 AM

no you can kill the demon if you do ctrlq over him use shadow kepper so he get 1000mines and he dies

Accord 05-16-2001 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Killer:
no you can kill the demon if you do ctrlq over him use shadow kepper so he get 1000mines and he dies
But I am talking about in-game, ie. no outside utilities.

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Avatar 05-16-2001 06:30 AM

Can't you summon a fire elemental just beyond the doors and kill the demon? I had 19 dex any way

dimon37 05-16-2001 09:57 AM

why not jsut sacrifice experience? You are extrememly unlikely to loose actual level, so just sacrifice the experience and be done with it

Black Knight 05-16-2001 10:07 AM

Ummm...aren't there bonuses at the end of this selfless act that counteracts it?

BK

Accord 05-16-2001 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Avatar:
Can't you summon a fire elemental just beyond the doors and kill the demon? I had 19 dex any way
You cannot and are not suppose to kill the demon (and the game won't let you), it's part of the story. Just play it as it is meant to be....

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alexwc4 05-16-2001 02:27 PM

Half a cheat. Swap in a different main character after moving the save file to multi-player. Get the tear, give the tear to an NPC, and swap in your real main character. Then move back to single player. No loss, no shadowkeeper, cheap, but not a cheat. You will go down to your default reputation, so you do "pay" something...

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Avatar 05-16-2001 02:52 PM

Ok nice one alexwc4! I was hoping for a 11% proper way.
If you can't kill the demon then so be it! Thanks Accord and everyone else!

Avatar 05-16-2001 02:52 PM

Is this why they took off dimension door?

Accord 05-16-2001 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Avatar:
Is this why they took off dimension door?
Heh...not sure.... I think the spell still works though. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...les/tongue.gif

P.S. You are welcome.

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Avatar 05-18-2001 03:32 PM

Hey why not cast:
Greater Malison and then teleport field loads of times
You might get lucky!!!!

Avatar 05-19-2001 09:03 AM

Honestly it works!


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