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I now this topic has been brought up about a hunderd times but something really bothers me.
I never had much trouble with any spellcaster (with the exceptions of Kangaxx and Jon himself)in Bg2 but since we will most likely encouter a lot more of them in the expansion im a little worried about the no saving throw spells like imprisoment. No matter how strong you're fighter is he will always be taken out in the first shot. Spell immunitie once a day for every five levels of the caster for all fighting classes would be fair since they can't summon any shields. I would like to know you're opinions on this. |
No prob for a Monk. Magic resistance normally worked a treat for me.
Potions that resist magic help, as does the anti magic scroll. Plus with all the disruptor devices you can use, I don't think there's an imbalance at all. ------------------ "Check the sustain on this one ... aaaaaaaa, I mean you could go out for a bite and there'd still be aaaaaaaaa" "Can I touch it?" "No. It can't be played" "Can I look at it? "No we've seen enough of that one....." http://www.ssanimation.com/site/anim...bj/guitar2.gif A fair dinkum laughing Hyena! |
Does magic resistance help against spells with no saving throws?
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there will be no resis for imprison
magic resistence helps against just about everything Yorick, nice guita!!! |
Magic resistance doesnt work with the Inprisonment spell. If it doesnt say anything in the spell description, magic resistance works with the spell.
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That sucks, they should balance all classes. Although fighters to get a nifty Whirlwind attack in TOB |
no worry, there are several ways to get around that
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Sure, if you have one of your party members cast a defense spell on ya, but not for a solo fighter. |
yes, for solo fighter as well
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Like what 250?
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like run away, lol
no, not really. have helm of vihlor, and buy two scroll of protection from magic put them in quick item slots. when you fight your enemies, use the helm, create a sim of yourself, have the sim cast protection from magic scroll on your fighter |
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Oh well I must have had one lucky Monk then. Imprisonment never bugged me. Only once or twice would an NPC get it, but I made sure I had freedom around. Ta, re. the Guitar Wei. Jerome got it for me http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...iles/smile.gif ------------------ "Check the sustain on this one ... aaaaaaaa, I mean you could go out for a bite and there'd still be aaaaaaaaa" "Can I touch it?" "No. It can't be played" "Can I look at it? "No we've seen enough of that one....." http://www.ssanimation.com/site/anim...bj/guitar2.gif A fair dinkum laughing Hyena! |
Berserkers are immune to Imprisonment when Berserk.
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I always throw a save vs death and nothing happens. |
that is a bug!!!
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Indeed but not all fighting classes have acces to berseker rage. |
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Maybe you're right, lots of players have complaint about this.(or are you talking about the monk) But that still doesn't solve my problem. |
Well my question is
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I said fighting classes not fighter, im a palladin. |
fighta iz fun!!! a berzaka or barbalian is fun!!!
they beat vizardz!! |
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Right, sounds like you need a cleric. A mage with acces to level9 spells will always beat a high level fighter. |
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BUAHAHAH!!!
my lvl 19 fighter beat lvl 50 mages, so you wanna continue to bet? |
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O.k wich level 50 wizard did you beat? Irenicus himself only is level30 and he is the most powerful mage in the game. |
PC vs PC
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The best is the Thief ... (sits comfortably while the other two do the tedious job of killing them all, waiting for their pockets to come back full of shiny things ...) http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...s/coollook.gif
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That must have been one bad mage to lose from a tiny level19 fighter (no offense). |
in fact, every mage i fought is bad, according to your logic [This message has been edited by 250 (edited 03-27-2001).] |
O.k 250, no need to start a war here.
I'm sorry for all the bad things i said. You're intitled to you're own (bad) opinion. [This message has been edited by Dreamer128 (edited 03-27-2001).] [This message has been edited by Dreamer128 (edited 03-27-2001).] |
Wei, check this discussion about magic. I posted it after a small minded rant against Neutrals by someone else in another thread, but hopefully the humor is evident.
<A HREF="http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-bin/ubb/noncgi/Forum2/HTML/002793.html" TARGET=_blank> Anti magic thread.</A> http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-.../1orglaugh.gif ------------------ "Check the sustain on this one ... aaaaaaaa, I mean you could go out for a bite and there'd still be aaaaaaaaa" "Can I touch it?" "No. It can't be played" "Can I look at it? "No we've seen enough of that one....." http://www.ssanimation.com/site/anim...bj/guitar2.gif A fair dinkum laughing Hyena! [This message has been edited by Yorick (edited 03-27-2001).] |
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the fact is, I know how to counter high level spells with fighter, and mages could not do anything against it. BGII screwed up mage's ability badly, and it has been proven over and over in real duels. (i myself used mages to fight fighters before, and eventually end up losing to some good dueler) what i am trying to say is, to start an argument over this is pointless, lets close the matter right here. we both keep opinions to ourselves. and Deamer, I fought a dozen of them give me a second, i am reading your post [This message has been edited by 250 (edited 03-27-2001).] |
WEll realise what you say 250
a level 50 mage that is like elminster times 3 If you are level 50 you can shadow door iron skin and mantle so you invounreble for at least the time to cast a timestop and well you are dead with one abi dalzim at level 50 that is like 50*8 = 400 damage max and 250 averige damage that lowers with a save vs death to 200 max and 125 averig but still very impressive Don't let yourslef be decieved by those whimpy In-Game Mages as they are as strong as a Mage PC of 10 levels lower ------------------ http://content.communities.msn.co.uk...&ID_Message=66 All Hail the Seventh house Sorcerer Master Magician of Necromancy Prince Rikard T'Aranaxz of Natri'x Clanmaster and Mental Father of the OHF Ramanish of Neathan'Calith High Priest and son of the Eternal Phoenix Shadowlord of the Silver Shield Baron of Yusliks Duke of Gerdran Duke of Tralixz Lord and General of the Army of the West AND!!! Laughing Hyena!!! |
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Then you are truly a great warrior. Let this discusion end here. |
Yorick... I read your post... I am speechless http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...es/biggrin.gif
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Too late. You got Rikard started. No we're for it... (goes looking for some earplugs or a walkman)
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Of course Bards are one of my favourite characters. http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...miles/wink.gif ------------------ "Check the sustain on this one ... aaaaaaaa, I mean you could go out for a bite and there'd still be aaaaaaaaa" "Can I touch it?" "No. It can't be played" "Can I look at it? "No we've seen enough of that one....." http://www.ssanimation.com/site/anim...bj/guitar2.gif A fair dinkum laughing Hyena! |
the problem is, you cannot even get your first spell out http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...es/biggrin.gif
you see, the philoserphy here is, you are lvl 50, and you already have advantages over me, so i wouldnt wait there and let you cast time stop. i will put on a protection from magic scroll on YOU the first instance i realise you are using time stop. (it is very easy to tell, just look at the color, and the protections you are wearing right now.) 1) in order to cast time stop, you HAVE to have protection from magical weapon on. EVERYTHING else can be penanrate through by crom faeyr +5 2) the color of time stop is green. so i just put a scroll on you, and you are muted forever (go check it yourself and see what the scroll does) also, a barbarian can easily get 60% magic resistance without cheating a fighter can always attack during each round while mages have to either run or hide a barbarian can use bow to chase mages, also barbs have speed bonus you can use invisible such as staff of magis, but scroll of magic protection dispels it. you still end up dead |
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Here we go again.... (although Rikard has a point) |
note: you cannot get even one time stop out. a time stop with robe of vecna takes 4 seconds to complete. it breaks you from invisible! that gives fighter the chance to put a scroll of magic protection on you (even though they can put one on you no matter you are invisible or not, but i dont want to take advantage of the exploiting bugs)
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Well Mantle is cast instandly give protect to +5 weapons
lower resistance lowers resistance and with Robe of Vacna you can cast 3 lower resistance per time stop at level 50 lower resistance with about 100% And ADHW is cast within a couple of second a good mage can kill any fighter nomatter what the level Thief are really something else but not that big of a problem either ------------------ http://content.communities.msn.co.uk...&ID_Message=66 All Hail the Seventh house Sorcerer Master Magician of Necromancy Prince Rikard T'Aranaxz of Natri'x Clanmaster and Mental Father of the OHF Ramanish of Neathan'Calith High Priest and son of the Eternal Phoenix Shadowlord of the Silver Shield Baron of Yusliks Duke of Gerdran Duke of Tralixz Lord and General of the Army of the West AND!!! Laughing Hyena!!! |
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