I would pick sword and shield style. Talk about utterly useless. You don't gain a chance to hit, or a chance to critical, nor do you even add additional AC--all you add is AC vs. missile weapons. Most enemies that attack with missiles have poor THACOs and would hit you no matter what your AC is on a 20. Let's not forget that large shields already have a missile bonus, and there's a shield that is +4 vs. missiles!

Next, would be club. Talk about worthless weapons! Quarterstaves put them to shame! And Jaheria puts two profs on this!

Third would be bastard swords. This category doesn't exist in Icewind Dale. So you'd think there'd at least be a decent number, right? WRONG! The worst thing in the game is the fact they discourage you from using katanas and then say nothing about bastard swords being ultrarare.

My vote goes to Whasasushi/Ninja-to or what ever it is. But I have a grudge against ALL of the oriental weapons stats. Katana = 1d10 why? 'Cause their super sharp and well made', give me a break. The two handed sword (in this mileu) should be much more potent than any johny come lately super ninja sword. Who made it? ah, Cromwell the Dwarf.

While there are no super hot clubs in the game there are some good ones and seeing as how she has sword & shield style.

I think bastard sword also deserves a dishonorable mention, as implimented in BGII they suck. - Curdis

The Blackblood club is pretty decent.

I totally agree with you regarding "sword and shield" style G.W., like you mentioned....most monsters that use bow are gobins, kua-toas, and a couple of odd thieves, unlike BGI, most of them die with a couple of good hits.
As for the clubs, I must admit I always give Jaheria the blackblood club as soon as I obtain it, and she is doing very well with it so far.
For the bastard swords, not only they are rare in the game......I don't think they are that useful either due to their damage potential and speed. But this is just my opinion......

Darts! why have them, has anyone ever bothered to use them. they do little damage and when you get bows that don't need arrows, axes, hammers and daggers that come back to you, why, they are pointless. and you can't even put them in a quvier.
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As for clubs you can get one when doing something with a troll head, it works very well on undead, but i can't recall the name.

Alright I'll add one more, Spears! Why use any of the useless spears when there are Two handed weapons like halberds and staves that are much better than any spear in the game?

Nah Turbovee, I think spears are the best weapon Jaheria can wield. Sure, there are some good staves, but the Impaler (+3 spear, 1-6+3 damage, +10 piercing damage) is probably better than all the two handed swords except the Holy Avenger. I'd rather have that +10 damage guaranteed than a 25% chance of a kill that will likely be resisted.

Sword and shield is actually quite good for a specialized party.
Minsc and aerie are equipped with mace of disruption and shield of balloran and celestial fury and harmony shield. they take point when it comes to handling beholders and mind flayers.
the shields are the weapon for those two.
that +4 spear in the underdark, that poisons with every hit is an excellent weapon.

My question is, what good does having proficiencies in sword+shield do against beholders? If you have the balduran shield, you'll never be hit by a beholder ray. I don't think mindflayers count as having missile weapons either, those projectiles are just spells.

At least Sword and shield skill does something. It's better than putting that proficiency in a slot for a weapon that you're not even going to use. It's a useful skill for someone like Aerie that can't wear armour and stands back out of combat. Agreed spears are probably the best weapon for Jahiera but I always give her club so she can use a shield. The most useless I think is bastard sword. There are no great examples, there aren't many of them and they're not really any better than long swords. Every other single handed weapon has better ones than bastard swords, except maybe short swords.

I've never put proficiencies in Darts, but that might not be so bad. There is an abundance of them and they fire very quickly. I'll have to try that (fighter ***** in darts? Sounds funny though). And doesn't a Dart of Wounding poison or something. I remember killing Flesh Golems with Darts of Wouding in BG1 .

I would agree that Bastard Sword isn't that great of a proficiency to have. I don't think clubs are that bad -- especially once Jaheira gets a decent one (ie. Blackblood), but spears would be better.

I sometimes give Jaheira the dart proficiency. She's pretty good with the darts that stun or poision. Has to get fairly close to the target, though, so sling is probably better.

Jhor The Bleeder
that is the only reason to have basterd sword and it isn't even that good
but my vote goes to darts because they run dry on ammo just like trowing axes and daggers
BUT those have boomerang weapons aswell so they are usefull
and with darts you almost never hit that is just awfull

Best to have Katana for a Kensai mage and dual wield celetial fury and Dak'kon Zerth sword

I would have to agree with the board...bastard sword is just about the most useless proficiency, I mean, one good sword and that's it. They tease you at the beginning of the game with a bastard sword, making you thing that you'll have a few in the future to look forward to, but NO! So you wast your profiency points on it and suddenly you have 5 different two handed swords and you have better luck shaking hands with Edward Scissorhands that using these things in combat! I mean--never mind, I digress...
Bastard swords and darts, that's it for me mates!

ME TOO! Why have bastard swords anyway? Also I have an utter distaste for the ninja-to thingy and washi-washing-up-thing sword.

The best you can get is a +1 as far as I know!! And the ninja tos are shit too!!

The game should revamp their weapons seriously! Put in a three-section cudgel or something.........but washi-washing-up sword??!! Is that the best that they can do?

Anyone who uses Washi - etc - etc should be ranted against to be knocked some sense into!

If you are prepared to wait till chap. 5 for a +3 bastard sword its ok but you'll have a useless proficiency slot until then...

Bastard swords should be rolled up into long swords or two handed swords, like the large sword/great/small sword categories they have in Icewind Dale. Little reason for there to be 6 different proficiencies for swords. How different is using a scimitar from using a long sword? What a joke that +1/+3 shapeshifter bastard sword is. Isn't there about one shapeshifter in the entire game? (Also yet to see any giants)

Hey! Does anyone want me to make new profficences for the expansion however doing so will delete a allready existing one if you want me to make new profficences tell me and tell me which one you want to delete.

Looks like Bastard Sword is the winner!

BTW There are plenty of shape shifters in the game - Rakshaka, Druids, not sure the sword actually is implemented to aid in these cases.

I thought darts were bad until a dart of stunning (they work through a stoneskin) saved my butt. Sometimes it is the unintentional design features that make something worthwhile.

The washahashbrown/ninja to arguement is not a winner because the proficency is simitar and there are some AVERAGE scimitars in the game. BUT I STILL hate the bl**dy things. - Curdis