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Okay...

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I finally reached Chapter 4 aftre completing a hell lot a quests. And I know that sooner or later, that traitor of Yoshimo will leave my party after I pump him up to level 15. My question is, is it ethical to use ShadowKeeper and give Imoen like 300 000 exp. (I estimate I got that much, even more)??

[This message has been edited by Memnoch (edited 05-22-2001).]

[This message has been edited by Memnoch (edited 05-22-2001).]

Well it's up to you. Personally the only cheat I have done is to remove the EXP cap. In my game Imoen joined me at Spellhold at a much lower level than my party. When she went up one level however, she learnt 11 spells, including 3 level 6 spells! Consequently she is now on equal terms with the others despite her level. Maybe daddy's blood is the reason?

Ethics: If you think it could be wrong it probably is.

Now, that being said, your ethics are your own choice. Personally I'm starting over with a Monk now as you get a BAZILLION casters through the game and a monk seemed fun to play. If he can find em, Imoen can turn em off (was my other reason for making a monk, I tossed ALL the points into find traps). But, ya, I had that as a problem as well.. it's up to you bud. Whatever you have FUN doing.

P.S. is there anyway to hook up with Imoen? I know it's really Kentucky to want to hook up with your sister but hey, someone has to be twisted and demented on the board..hehe *smile*

We're all twisted and demented on this particular board, but no, you can't hook up with Imoen, you sick, sick person. : P
Besides, Jaheira and Viconia have better portraits than Imoen. Though Imoen's speech is probably better. "Next time.", "I'll show you a fight!", etc.

Actually we just had our two demented members banned from the forum, be careful what you wish for.

Well, Imoen is definitly a cute lil' girl, and referring to what you've gone through together with her, I'd really liked to see a romance script involving her. But, as a matter of fact, she IS your half-sister, and this would probably upset a lot of people and I guess this is why they took it out of the game.

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Hey, I'm pretty sure Baal's power are dominant (not only but including in genetic ways). So would a child of Imoen and your PC have the full power of Baal ?

I cheated to dual class a charater by adding exp to my dual class character and subracting equal exp from my other characters to base of the level they are at. The remaining exp I subtracted from later from the character I dualclassed in the first place, after considerable exp had been gained. The results-I gained the advantages of two classes sooner and it took me longer to lvl up after attaining dualclass. The other time I cheated I added a Bag of holding to my inventory and subtracted 3000 gp( in chapter 2).Made for a fair game and plenty of inventory all the way through!

Its tricky to edit your game and still have fun, and sometimes its fun to edit your game. I always keep a Back-up save before I edit,( Ive only edited twice and kept it) just in case I took the fun out of the game while having fun editing. Besides, if the game adjusts difficulty based on your lvl, then increasing your lvl makes it more difficult anyway. Is that really cheating or changing the pace of the game???

If you look at greek mythologie you will see a lot of half sister marry their half brothers and even full siblings marry eachother (Zeus - Hera) or uncles marriing their cousins and so forth so whay not in BG

Historically speaking, Intra family breeding was common in earlier millenia. It is important to note that it has been proven that this weakens DNA, and genetic coding rather than improving or strengthening them for the benefit of the human race. Intra family breeding is a known cause of increased hereditary desease, congenital birth defects and even psychological instability. Many known kings and rulers in the past, were the products of this practice and were quite insane. Something to think about....

Yes, I don't think a half-evil-god despot would be a very good idea.

BUMP LOL

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I had Nalia who was 300,000 EXP highier. You don't need high level mages in Chapter 4 and therefore kick out someone get poor Imoen back in! She'll level up at least twice and three times by the end of Chapter 5. You need good fighters! All the spells I used were fireball and acid arrow.

You notice the difference between nevyn and armisael post is SIX monthes?

WHY BUMP??? HE/SHE AINT GONNA READ IT!!!

And besides, there are spoilers in this thread that are not properly labeled <font color="white">Spoiler</font color>. I hope Memnoch gets rid of this thread, soon.

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When I got Imoen back in my party I just kept her there until I beat the game. Personally, I don't use cheats but I didn't feel that another character would have been that much more useful than Imoen. From that, I would draw the conclusion giving Imoen extra EXP isn't really nessecary. You shouldn't have taken Yoshimo if you didn't want to lose the EXP, and even then you would have to dump another character to take Imoen with you and lose the EXP. Of course, It could be you want to give her additional EXP anyway, but that's not how I would do it.
In any case, wether or not to "improve your character" is ethical is highly subjective. I don't think it should be done, but a lot (or should that be a LOT) of players don't mind. If you don't think it is much of a problem feel free to enhance Imoen (or any other character).

If you find this matter really important (which you shouldn't) remember that you'd have lost the EXP anyway, as Imoen would have been your seventh character, so you would have to dump a member of your party anyway.
I would advise you to finish the game without cheating first, and after that you can always come back and explore the modifiing part.




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Even if bhaal powers were dominant, any offspring of the pc and Imoen would only be 1/4 bhaalspawn, assuming the laws of genetics apply. A child gets half its genes from each parent, and the half you get is more or less random, and is not affected by whether genes are dominant or recessive. You'd get better results with a bhaal-Imoen pairing, though. Their children would be 3/4 bhaalspawn.

ewwwwwwwww bhaal and imoen. You stop talking like that about my little sister.....dammit they sucked me in again this thread is ancient.

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Imoen will go up levels fast as there is a lot of xp gaining in chapters four and five. i usually keep her in until she gets her soul back from bodhi (at least let her have her soul back,) and then drop her. i have a powerful thief in jan, and a powerful mage in edwin. plus, imoen kinda annoys me sometimes.


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You guys are mean
I thought i saw Armiseal being back again
I *hate* you Nevyen

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It is a single player game, do whatever you wish. It's not like your cheating is to the detrement of others, so have at it.

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THIS THREAD IS F*****G ANCIENT GO AWAY!!! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

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Sorry Rikard i was just going for some fun

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Nevyn, please read this

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Now the topic's been brought up again, it makes me think of Star Wars where Luke fancied Leia before he found out she was his sister

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