I got a copy of the Wiz 8 demo and played with it - for all of about 10 minutes. Then I had to stop because the game was literally making me sick.
It's a pity because I like what I see - the interface is *very* good & well-thought out, and it looks like there's a lot of depth in the game. But the on-screen movement of the party made me nauseous.

Err, any help on this?? :(

[ 05-05-2002, 11:58 PM: Message edited by: Hayashi ]

your view may have been shifted up- or downwards looking at objects, mobs, etc. I frequently push the 5 on the keypad to recenter, because the tilted camera is kinda vertigenous. If that doesn't help, it may just be the motion itself. Ever play Doom?

Some people have a venerability to motion sickness (queasy stomach feeling) with 3D depictions on a PC screen. The older games like Doom really brought this to their attention.

Things to check, the refresh rate on your monitor, is it set to at least 75Hz? Try placing the monitor closer/further away from where you're sitting. Try different lighting arrangements in the room with the computer.

Hope this helps.

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[ 05-09-2002, 09:50 PM: Message edited by: Wolfie ]

Yes, or rather, tried to, all those years ago. Couldn't, for the same reasons (wanted to puke after 10 mins).
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Some folks simply cannot handle a first person view that moves with much speed. Be warned that Morrowind and MM-9 are mouse-look types, and MM-9 even has a built-in "head bob" motion (may be turned off on an options page). Before giving up completely on the two best of the three (Morrowind & Wiz-8), locate a friend who has the full game and try resetting various options, such as Mouse Speed and whatever else may affect the view. As noted before, if your video adapter and display offer higher refresh rates than the usual, be sure those have been activated.
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[ 05-06-2002, 12:35 AM: Message edited by: The Kiwi ]

Looks like another RPG is off my "must-buy" list... [img]graemlins/crying.gif[/img]

poor you.
yeah its wierd. i can play doom/quake/wiz8 for hours on end, and suffer nothing except slightly tired eyes from staring at the screen for so long.

there isnt really any cure, except taking frequent breaks and every minute or so sitback and look around. try to play in an open room, lots of fresh air...

heres an interesting link u might wanna read:
www.loonygames.com/content/1.2/feat/index2.shtml
hope it helps. [img]smile.gif[/img]

if not... you will have to go back to playing PONG.

Try the above suggestions before you write off a game and deprive yourself of the available hours of entertainment.

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[ 05-07-2002, 12:09 AM: Message edited by: Wolfie ]

Of course, there's always Dramamine [img]redface.gif[/img] ) It can't be any worse than the large amounts of caffiene that gamers usually down.

Have you thought about travel sickness remidies!!!!!!!!!
Might be worth a try?

I did consider asking the doc for medication, but I'm the sort of person who takes medicine only if absolutely necessary. Besides, I think such medicines cause side effects like driwsiness, etc.
I'll give the demo another go over the weekend. If it doesn't improve, then it looks like I'll have to pass up on an excellent title. :(

I sympathise with you so much! I had this very problem when I started playing, and I was so upset because I really wanted to play. But I can tell you from my own experience that it gets better. At first I couldn't play for more than ten minutes at a time, but as you get used to the graphics, and to using the mouse, you will improve. I think the biggest problem is that you move up and down as well as forward when you're moving if you're not really in control. Also starting off in the monastery is bad I think - it's very dark and confined, when you get to Arnika road and it is open and light it also improves. Don't give up!

Hah, if playing wiz makes you nauseous, be sure to cast 'cure lt condition' on youself! [img]smile.gif[/img]

I know several that suffered from this condition - Aelia has given you her story. Wyvern, the W&W moderator never made it out of the monastery because of severe motion sickness. Personally I like my RPG's first person and realistic, but it's a pity when this sort of things prevents others from the enjoyment of a really good game.

Hayashi,

I too suffered from this condition.

I found that if I did not use headphones and played when I was more alert, the condition was negligible.

It has taken me longer to complete the game, but I have enjoyed every bit of it.

Yes I agree with this. After a couple of days of playing, I got a cold. It was completely unplayable because I had a headache and I despaired being able to play on. But when I got better and didn't have a headache anymore it was much better. Sit up straight and drink water and don't play while you're sick or tired [img]smile.gif[/img]

I had a friend who was like that as well but when conterstrike became popular, he fell in love with it and insisted on playing it. That twit actually would play for about 2 hours, stop, puke, rest for 1/2 hour and go back at it. He's okay now, quite immune to it, but you have to admire his dedication! Or maybe his addiction..

Try to use the mouse for head motion. If I use the keyboard I have the same problem but with the mouse + KB it's OK.

wow! we were discussing this when the demo first came out in november.

even our dear z-man wss complaining about it.

lady nightshade had to completely stop playing also.

some useful tips from way back when!

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It's a relief to find that I'm not the only one with this kind of problem ;) . I've had it with Might&Magic 6 and Wizards&Warriors, and now with Wizardry 8. Thank you for posting those links to the older threads on the subject, I'll have to try some of the tips given there.

Actually I can play for up to three hours when I'm at my desktop computer at home, but I'm away on business about 4 days each week, and only have a laptop with me, and I often have to give up after just a few minutes on that :( . It's a pity, I really like what I've seen of the game so far.

Any special tips for how to prepare a laptop when sitting on a hotel bed to avoid sickness? ;) Medicines won't help, I'm trying to avoid them since I'm pregnant (but don't want to wait half a year to play ;) ).

Oh man, TELL ME about it. This didn't happen to me on my P3 500Mhz, but I now have a new 2.4Ghz rig with that Geforce4 4600, and 3 games so far have made me VERY ill feeling--I gotta go lay down. It's silly!!

I got sick in W8, Die Hard: Nakatomi Plaza, and Quake3.. It SUCKS! I notice when I slow down, and move my mouse in a circular fashon and that is when it REALLY kicks in. I guess it's because of the high frame rate? I never had this problem before.. Grr. Guess I better under-clock my system [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

yes.. unfortunately for some this is the case.
seems that peoples brains have problems with the nice textures and smooth scrolling thats possible with todays high end systems.

in the old days graphics were unrealistic and jerky. the brain could tell that they wernt 'real'

i suggest to try to limit as much as possible movement using the mouse,keep your view centered look away from the monitor regularly, like during combat, oh... and go into the wiz8 options and change smooth panning to none or snap. that will alleviate problems during combat.

Does this option apply to the automatic scrolling in combat only or anywhere in the game? My main problem seems to be whenever the view scrolls by itself (e.g. when it focusses on a new oponent in combat) or when it's moving in more than one direction (if you run into an obstacle and your movement is diverted from straight ahead to diagonal).