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KallDrexx 02-21-2002 10:04 AM

Why do I say that? Unless it's just me Trynton hardware lags like hell (especially by the zoo and when a lot of guards are walking around). Unless i'm in combat mode that is. Trynton is the only place so far i see this happening. It finally resulted in me falling off the edge of one bridge cause after a fight i was walking foward and many guarsd around, much hardware lag, and i fell of the bridge... this was in the upper branches so, you can guess what happened next...
I knw it's not my ocmputer tho unless this requires a beast of a machine. I have a Geforce 3 ti 200, an underclocked Athlon XP 1700+ (clocked at 1050Mhz) 327MB RAM. Every game i play, i play at 1024x786 and this is the only game i don't get 60fps at....

am i the only one who hast his problem?

Gimli 02-21-2002 10:16 AM

My machine is ancient compared to yours and runs the game with no problems, it's a pentium 2 400mhz, geoforce 2, 384 megs of ram. Only thing I can think of is try updating your video drivers?

m3th0dm4n 02-21-2002 10:18 AM

I got 1.2 T-Bird, 256 Ram, GeForce 2 MX 400, XP, runs great for me!

ratchild 02-21-2002 10:23 AM

I've got a athlon 1.4, with 512 RAM, and a geforce 2 ultra with latest drivers (manufacturer, not reference) and although it runs smooth most of the time, sometimes it turns practically into a slideshow for a few seconds, then goes back to normal... usually with an energy blast or magic missiles spell... or sometimes just turning around. make sure all your motherboard drivers are updated as well, miniport drivers and Via chipset drivers. these can affect performance alot

a_silent_lamb 02-21-2002 10:45 AM

I hate to go near zoo because of the lag. The only solution seems to be to stand still until all patrols are gone. ;) It's tolerated and in term of cost efficiency, it's justified.

Mine is Pentium III 450 MHz.

Megabot 02-21-2002 11:13 AM

No problems here!
Pentium 4 1600 MHZ, Geforce 3, 512 mb ram 70 gig HD, sb live and Plextor 40 x cd drive/writer so here is all perfect! Also Win XP proffesionale!
Maby it is the AMD cpu... i have read on www.hardware.com that they may have some dificultyes on some games...

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Nydlari 02-21-2002 11:23 AM

I've got a PIII 800Mhz, 128Ram, Integrated video leaching memeory from the ram and it runs fine in Trynton. The only place I've ever had it slow down is Rapax Castle when I am in Ferro's facing the door with the vulcan hammer behind it. It's crashed a couple of times there.

Mage_77 02-21-2002 11:59 AM

Re-building my other system so playing W8 on a p2 300 celeron. 512ram, 2x Voodoo 2 12meg 3dfx (SLI'd).

It runs smoothly through most of the game although it does go a little jerky in some places but the zoo's fine for me with this system.

(NOTE: Did you cast "ALOT" of spells *like say practicing a magic realm* prior to going through thwe zoo? Wiz8 has a problem which is namely a memory leak and some people find that after several hours they need to restart as it starts t get jerky. This same problem occurs when you cast spells over & over again to practice a realm of magic.

Helix 02-21-2002 12:08 PM

I hear ya. Running a 1 gig w/256 mb ram and a Geforce 2 MX.
I had the same problem in Trynton. I was running 1024 x 768 x 32 bit
color. I dropped it to the lowest resolution (640 x 480 x 16 I think)
and it didn't help. Now for the really weird part. I set it to
the *highest* resolution (1600 x 1200 x 32 I think). Guess what?
It runs smooth as glass, even in Trynton. Go figure.

The only problem I have now is that it takes *forever* to bring up
the map. I'm talking probably a full minute.

Helix

Nightowl2 02-21-2002 12:14 PM

I'm running on an A600 with 128 meg and a Voodoo3 card, 640x480 res. Sometimes there's a little slowness around the zoo, but nothing really bad.

I have noticed the slowness at Ferro's upper cabinet with the hammer, etc., and no idea why that should be so.

Never any long delays in the bringing up the automap, though sometimes loading in the game (or a save game) can take awhile.

After long sessions, the game does tend toward jerkiness, which is the signal for me to exit and then reload.

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KallDrexx 02-21-2002 12:31 PM

I hven't been casting a lot of spells, or any at all. dunno its really smooth except for certian reas of trynton... oh well

Silverthornne 02-21-2002 01:56 PM

My computer runs smooth as silk, no slowdown anywhere at all. Athlon XP 1800, 512 meg RAM, Geforce 2 MX400. I don't really think it's the game engine itself since it's a modest one, and I have seen it run very smoothly on a 450 Mhz Pentium 2 with a TNT2 (my original PC ;) . However, it is possible there could be a hiccup somewhere maybe in a hardware component or a driver issue. As for the guy that posted the hardware.com link to that story of AMD processors having problems on some games, since I couldn't find it, what AMD processors exactly? Far as I know, since the Athlon, AMD processors totally trounce Intel's in just about anything and the XP seems even more stable. Not saying that Intel processors are bad, just stating the facts on that for the time being, clock for clock, and dollar per dollar, an AMD processor is better and are very stable. Sadly, I can't say the same about the chipsets on which the AMD processors are housed in though as IMO that's really the weakest area of having an AMD platform.

the_Avatar 02-21-2002 01:59 PM

I gots a pIII 550 319ram and the stock vid card (believe me...the card isn't much) and the game runs great for me. The only lag I get is when I am downloading massive files in the background while I play.

KallDrexx 02-21-2002 02:13 PM

like i said.. with my 450Mhz Computer and this geforce 3 it ran silky smooth (wasn't up to trynton yet tho.

Erichvoneisental 02-21-2002 08:08 PM

I run almost 9000 3d marks and I still get the whole slide show effect in w8 at times. Athlon xp 2000+, geforce ti 200@obsene clock speeds. Ugg. At least I can get well over a 100 fps in Q3. *shrug*

Ziggurat 02-21-2002 08:50 PM

I noticed that I had lag times when I hadn't reloading from scratch. Certain areas like Arnika and Trynton had horrible problems but only when I USED THE MAP. The map rebuilds everytime and eats up memory. When I see a serious lag time I save, and get out of Wiz8 entirely. Reload and you see a huge improvement.

Wolfie 02-21-2002 08:52 PM

P3-600, 128Mb RAM, and a VooDoo3 3000AGP here, and the only place it gets even a little choked up is Arnika (and that probably more to do with the amount of patrols etc verses available RAM. Otherwise, perfect performance for me.

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Pyrates 02-21-2002 09:05 PM

I'm playing on a laptop with 128mb RAM, celeron 800 and an 8mb videocard... works fine! In Arnika it becomes a little bit laggy, but it's ok, and after several hours of playing I have to restart to free swap space... Trynton was never a problem.

Never forget your towel, cheers
Philipp

WampusLord 02-21-2002 10:18 PM

Running an XP 1700, 256mb DDR ram, and a Radeon 7200 64mb SDR ram video card. I have noticed slow down near Ferro and the area above the elevator in Rapax Castle. Especially if I access the auto-map.. go figure..

WampusLord

Paladin2000 02-22-2002 12:01 AM

I am running on a P4 1.5GHz, 256 MB RAM and Geforce 2 MX400. The game runs quite smooth at 800x600 but I have noticed the automapping (with X-ray vision) slows the game down to a crawl. other than that I have nothing to complain about. [img]smile.gif[/img]

ice3 02-22-2002 04:01 AM

I have experience some lag after long periode in the game (like 6 or more hours in a row), then the swap file from windows exploses and the game start to be shocky. Just quit the game and wait 10 minutes to force windows to purge the swap.

You can also add some parameters in the win.ini file to force windows to use the full RAM before hitting the swap file.

Gothmog Lord of the Balrogs 02-22-2002 04:50 AM

Personally I think this was postet by KallDrexx to brag about his new computer, and all of you kept following up, leaving me full of envy!

SubEffect 02-22-2002 02:19 PM

I play Wiz8 on two sytems, one of which is a bit old (P3/550, 320MB of RAM, TNT2 Video) and I have to quit the game after reloading a save game about 4-5 times. The game REALLY lags hard. I am pretty sure it's a memory issue. When I exit Wiz8, there is only 75MB left out of 320MB. I run MemTurbo to clean it up, then I can reload the game and it's just fine until I load save games multiple times. I run XP.

On my main system (P4) I don't notice those problems at all. It's bizarre. I've even rebuild the older machine once (not due to the Wiz8 issues) and the same problems remain.

Draq 02-22-2002 04:05 PM

only time I had a problem with the game slowing down was when I managed to get into a battle (out in the forest) vs 49 mobs...yes I said 49. now the 49 mobs werent the problem, it was when I cast fireball...the game actually froze up for about 8 seconds before i started to show all the damage. Yes, I won but I was backed into a corner...3 mobs max could hit me at one time.

Kinfyr 02-22-2002 05:16 PM

I'm just confused as to why someone would underclock their cpu?

Erichvoneisental 02-22-2002 06:32 PM

Someone tried the Athlon bridge cutting trick to change the CPU multipler and messed up (At least thats the usual cause of a underclocked athlon XP)

biggus 02-23-2002 06:15 AM

underclock possibly because the motherboard cannot handle the CPU speed?

Nydlari 02-23-2002 06:48 AM

I don't know why this guy specifically underclocked his proccessor, but in general here are a few reasons:

1) If it's an Athalon, running at full clock speed can occassionaly cuase glitching in the pipelines due to bad architecture, so underclocking can make them more stable.

2) Uses less power.

3) There is no need to run at full speed on high end processors unless you have a lot of very fast memory since it will bottle neck through the memory. (By fast and a lot, I mean RAMBUS and 512Meg plus)

KallDrexx 02-23-2002 04:12 PM

I underclocked for 2 reasons. One and formeost was heating was an issue (which I have now fixed thansk to 2 fans and a bigger case) but I am only up to an XP 1600+ now because i need to upgrade my bios to support the 1700+

Anyways I don't get much hardware lag (well not enough to cry about) i can live with it. I mainly wanted to see if this was a problem with evyeroen else. It does strike me that the guy with a 2000+ also experiences hardware lag... *shrugs*

I also have win2k installed.. dunno if that matters.


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