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nonamefits 12-07-2001 09:47 AM

What is the best way to train a magic skill? Is it to cast spells from it at as high a lvl as u can, or repeatedly casting it at lower lvl?

Is picpocket worth having all thruu the game?

What is the best stats/skills to pump for a monk? After reading some of the other posts on this board I'm thinkin like this:
Str/vit (speed,dex,senses)
Martial arts/close combat/stealth, then magic skills as soon as the first 3 are maxed.

Virgil 12-07-2001 10:25 AM

Casting it at a higher level seems to give a greater chance of increase. If the bubble is yellow or orange, I'll get a skill up every 2-4 castings. If the bubble is green, it takes 6-8 castings. However, once you get fairly high rating, it may make more sense to cast multiple low level spells. Otherwise, you'll be resting after every cast.

GreyWolfDog 12-07-2001 10:52 AM

>>Is picpocket worth having all thruu the game?


Pickpocket is definitly worth it im up to 75 now on my pickpocket and NO money wories 255,000 currently.

I would save pickpocket 3 times then save again, and if i got caught well i would just reload.

GreyWolfDog

madmarcos 12-07-2001 01:05 PM

monk: i have played 3 in 3 different parties and they always end up the highest damage dealer.

stats: pump 3 to STR and alternate 3 to DEX and SPD. when STR is maxed pump 3 DEX and 3 SPD

skills: 3 in martial arts. 3 in crit strike. 3 in close combat.
when any one of these is maxed, put 3 in stealth. after that maybe expert skills.

my monk after lvl 10 or so gets 4 to 8 attacks all the damn time. avg damage per round at lvl 10 was around 50. plus she critically strikes every so often. better SENSES might help that fire more often. i believe the secret to success with a monk is unarmed martial arts. the more often a monk can hit the more often it can critcally strike. plus she tends to hit really damn often. puts the dracon samurai to SHAME! hell the samurai might as well grab a sling and head to the rear. or learn pickpocketing.

pickpocket is WONDERFUL! use Myles at the beginning while you build yours up but as soon as its 30+ give ol Myles the boot and get a better npc.

vesselle 12-07-2001 02:21 PM

gotta agree with madmarcos on that regarding the monk. that's EXACTLY how i have been allocating her skills and she is a powerhouse!

only thing i have done is every other level, i will divvy it up so that i toss a couple of points into Senses. i think that's what is upping her crits! nothing more satisfying than having her kick something and watching it blow up! :D

it definitely is crucial to have her carry nothing but some shuriken (for her ranged weapon) or poison darts. that way she uses her best skill ~ Unarmed. i love seeing her two little paws with their claws next to her face.

mine is level 10 too and she is doing 4 attacks per round minimum. with approximately 12-20 pts per attack that means... uh... ::counts on her fingers, gets confused and stops:: umm ... ALOT!!

V***V

Merkin 12-07-2001 02:31 PM

Thanks for the tips on Monks, guys, I've been really unhappy with my Samurai, and have been thinking about re-starting, was torn between a Valk and a Monk, you two might have just tipped the balance. *sigh* Monastary, here we come again!

yoodaa 12-07-2001 02:59 PM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Merkin:
Thanks for the tips on Monks, guys, I've been really unhappy with my Samurai, and have been thinking about re-starting, was torn between a Valk and a Monk, you two might have just tipped the balance. *sigh* Monastary, here we come again!<hr></blockquote>

You can always delete just your samurai and come in with a lvl 1 monk. The levels will be coming pretty fast, so the monk will be only a few levels behind in no time at all.

MaskedFrog 12-07-2001 03:07 PM

I love my ninja. I do not have a monk so I cannot compare them. When leveling up the ninja I put a few points in Str and the rest in Spd and Dex. For skills I put three in Martial Arts, Critical Strike, and Stealth. At level 9 I am getting 2 kicks with 2 swings and 1 punch with 2 swings. The damage is a little low at about 8 to 10 but I am getting a critical hit every other combat. I expect it will only get better from here.

ninja6o4 12-07-2001 03:21 PM

How do you delete a character and add a new lvl 1 character to your current party?

maybe I should have read the manual...

nonamefits 12-09-2001 05:29 AM

FYI:
You can change your charater by clickin on this name in the character screen. There should then be a "replace" button somwhere in the bottom of the next screen. (here you can also edit the name and the voice)

John Doe 12-09-2001 05:12 PM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Merkin:
Thanks for the tips on Monks, guys, I've been really unhappy with my Samurai, and have been thinking about re-starting, was torn between a Valk and a Monk, you two might have just tipped the balance. *sigh* Monastary, here we come again!<hr></blockquote>

I think the Samurai is harder to master than the Monk. The Monk basically needs Martial Arts, Critical Strike, Stealth and Close Combat. The Samurai needs Swords, Dual Weapons, Close Combat and Critical Strike. While that's 4 to 4, the Samurai really needs HIGH values especially in Swords and Dual Weapons to get all the attacks ans swings. So it takes longer to turn him into a tank. And I would rather spend ZERO points into magic. If you do, you'll end up with a bad fighter/magican.
But consider this: Give her Bloodlust. That way, she'll allways go berserk. Mine is only level 9 and goes allready 3 times beserk with it and deals out more than 100 damage. And it could be more if she was using Bloodlust only but I decided to keep the wakizashi to practice Dual Weapons. Once this is high enough, she'll get all the attacks and swings. Remember, don't give Bloodlust to a fighter as theses allready have the beserk option.
Okay, this won't work for you, if you prefer ranged attacks. But I prefer to charge as fast as possible.


<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by yoodaa:


You can always delete just your samurai and come in with a lvl 1 monk. The levels will be coming pretty fast, so the monk will be only a few levels behind in no time at all.
<hr></blockquote>

But the monk won't have all the points gained through practice which could be a lot around e.g. level 10.

vesselle 12-09-2001 07:52 PM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by John Doe:
But the monk won't have all the points gained through practice which could be a lot around e.g. level 10.<hr></blockquote>

that is an excellent point. something totally easy to forget about when we talk about changing class.

V***V


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