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Barb 11-25-2001 07:49 AM

Who's the hardest enemy to defeat? (not including Irenicus)

Campino 11-25-2001 07:52 AM

After you've played through the game a couple of times,
you know how to handle them all,but i remember my a** being
kicked by kangaxx first couple of times
Still hurts....

Barb 11-25-2001 07:56 AM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Campino:
After you've played through the game a couple of times,
you know how to handle them all,but i remember my a** being
kicked by kangaxx first couple of times
Still hurts....
<hr></blockquote>

LOL [img]graemlins/thewave.gif[/img]

Campino. You must put the symbol of Goth and our quote on your sig.

Sir Exxon 11-25-2001 07:59 AM

<font color="red">I think Kangaxx is a pain in the a**</font>


<font color="green">see ya!</font>

Dundee Slaytern 11-25-2001 11:09 AM

Well, if you are judging by first tries, Kangaxx the Demi-Lich gets my vote.

Barb 11-25-2001 11:15 AM

Who's kagaxx, who's demi lich?

Dundee Slaytern 11-25-2001 12:53 PM

Kangaxx is a Demi-Lich an- wait... Barb, I could have sworn I have seen you ask this question before, http://www.plauder-smilies.de/sad/confused3.gif why are you asking again?

Warby 11-25-2001 06:30 PM

The hardest battles for me were when there were loads of beholders and there little buddies. I never got round to defeating Kagaxx he always beat me, even when I was at the XP cap limit.Still completed the game. I'd say that the illithids are fairly hard in large numbers unless you have the lvl 15+ skelatal warriors then they are mostly easy. Beholders always turn Anomen into stone or petrify him or whatever they do. Its really anoying.

Warby

SecretMaster 11-25-2001 07:11 PM

Kangaax, Irenicus.

Morgan_Corbesant 11-25-2001 07:29 PM

kangaxx is an EASY enemy if you invest in a protection from magic, or a protection from undead scroll. he is pretty my the hardest SINGLE enemy in the game.

Lord Ludtke 11-25-2001 07:36 PM

kangaxx for sure. Beholders are ok if you get Baldurs Shield or if you know where they are, cloudkill em from a distance.

Barb 11-26-2001 02:27 AM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
Kangaxx is a Demi-Lich an- wait... Barb, I could have sworn I have seen you ask this question before, http://www.plauder-smilies.de/sad/confused3.gif why are you asking again?<hr></blockquote>

I havn't asked this before! You've confused me with someone else [img]graemlins/thewave.gif[/img]

Whailor 11-26-2001 02:55 AM

Spoiler or two maybe..
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Well, can't say exactly now. I would have said that Kangaxx, but I spanked him yesterday without much of troubles. Only Minsc got Imprisoned, because his "berserk" state went off in mid-fight. Oh well, good thing I didn't inscribe that Freedom scroll I had on Aerie, as she cannot yet cast it. Would have been fubared, since I cannot even recall in which store it would be on sale. And I cannot even recall from where I got this single scroll.. Anyways, got him down good. Took a bit of time though, since apparently only one who could hit that schmuk was Jaheira with her Sling of Everard. Jaheira hit Kangaxx for 1, then 1, then 1 more, then 1... Ehh, eventually he died heheh..

Then I had one other big fight with casters ahead. You see, I had done all the quests there was to be done, all what I had in journal and all the quests with all the NPC's who joined my party. Not only that, my romance with Jaheira was over as well and she was wearing the Harper Pin. And I yet had to take the ship to Brynlaw. But I could not yet take it, since I wanted to get it over with Anomen, his "knighthood" quest. But bloody macrel, no-one came and called him to be judged, and I really had nothing else to do anymore. So I decided to have some fun with Cowled Wizards. Zapped some Shield spell on Aerie and they came (to fight, I already got a warning long time before that). Well, after few waves of those usual wizards, one more of those schmuks came and told a la "Ha! Now yer dead, prepare to fight the highest ranking members of our order", or something to that extent. Big spells started to fly. I even had to reload once, the lil' problem what occurs when the Enrage wears off of a main char at wrong time. Whoops. So I reloaded and made sure that it gets on at the right time, and this time I beated them. Nothing too fancy came out of it though, but at least I saved 5K and can cast spells now freely in Amn..

As for pesky fights - I find the fights with these Adamantite golems tad pesky. Aint hard as such, I always beat them, but pesky. I have 3 items out of 4 needed for Crom Faeyr, also Flail of Ages. But my chars, none of them, is really potent (i.e. proficient enough) to use them well, not to mention that main char is the toughest, who can take some beating from them. I cannot check right now, since I am at work, but funny thing is that the Hammer of Thunderbolts +3 doesn't seem to do Blunt damage or what? With it in main hand, char kept screaming "I cannot do any damage", switched then the hands with the Flail of Ages +3 and I could do damage, from 3 to 4 points per hit heh.. Then again I don't know, Hammer of Thunderbolts +3 did work on Clay Golems. Questions, questions..

Illithids were pesky too, yes, but not too bad. Main char soloed them. Speed him up, Draw Holy Might, Boots of Speed, Enrage and charge! [img]smile.gif[/img] Oh, forget, take a sip of Potion of Genius and that other one, which adds +3 to INT and DEX (forgot the name). During fight keep checking your INT, somewhere when I was 3/4th thru the first illithid place, my INT was down to 6, so I gulped another Potion of Genius.

So, here are - few pesky, but none too hard or none as a pain in the a**. I however have the benefit of knowing what I face and where, because I have been through the game 2 times before. That certainly is a bonus.

Mage of Mystra 12-07-2001 02:08 AM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr> Took a bit of time though, since apparently only one who could hit that schmuk was Jaheira with her Sling of Everard. Jaheira hit Kangaxx for 1, then 1, then 1 more, then 1... Ehh, eventually he died heheh.. <hr></blockquote> That's also what i did to kill him, took a long time, but paid off and you can do that even if your characters are low levels. Actually if you use the sling with Anomen, i think you could hit for 2 or 3, he has 2 proficiency on sling i think.

huma 12-07-2001 02:50 AM

It,s diferent now that I,ve played through numerous times but the most difficult the first time I played through was definately...
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That house in the bridge district where you open the door and have a rogue stone in your possesion.BAM warp into this battle and BAM me and my party were dead.Being that you can enter this battle very early on, experience wise and totally unexpectedly, it gets my vote.

Morgan_Corbesant 12-07-2001 03:22 AM

the cat that i ran into in the slums district!!! actually, i would say the battle for the celestial fury. i did it with a level 10 assassin when i was soloing (never been in that place before) and died in a matter of seconds. definately a hard battle at that stage.

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Curian The Paladin 02-03-2002 09:04 AM

How about the hardest to fight using no offensive and defensive spells???!!! anyone????

I guess for me the hardest to defeat is Dragons!!!!!

i tried to defeat them the cheese way and and very ( as in very hard) way hash and slash only

even with spells i'll have to agree with u all.......

KANGAXX really is a pain in the a**

http://www.blizzard.com/images/war3/units/knight.gif
Sir Curian
Protector of Good

Alardon Mireldarn 02-03-2002 11:23 AM

Irenicus isn't the hardest one. Dragons are sometimes hard to beat, but last time I did that it was too easy (solo sorceror). But, Kangaxx may be the hardest one (and definetly then if U dont have protection scrolls).

Ezekial 02-03-2002 06:31 PM

Umm..Kangaxx as a single enemy..Twited rune as a group, then the ones with the Fury...

I hate twisted rune!!!

Liche + timestop+wail, beholder, mage+timestop+meteor shower+gate AND vampyr+4 levels drained...have to micro manage fight :(

Kikakee 02-03-2002 11:20 PM

I don't know about that Ezekial, when I defeated the Twisted Rune Gang, I used one tank with the cloak of mirroring to fight everyone but the liche. the rest of my attacker's used ranged weapons, and I (a mage) cast breach and the like, on the liche. Minsc didn't seem to mind being alone, and took out the beholder first, then the vamp, before the liche went down. Of course, everyone was Lvl8+, but then there's no good reason to go any earlier anyway.

Crimson 02-04-2002 01:20 AM

the hardest who be the cow which is in the trademeet because whenever i try to kill it it will explode and so will my characters

PeeWee 02-04-2002 07:08 AM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Kikakee:
I don't know about that Ezekial, when I defeated the Twisted Rune Gang, I used one tank with the cloak of mirroring to fight everyone but the liche. the rest of my attacker's used ranged weapons, and I (a mage) cast breach and the like, on the liche. Minsc didn't seem to mind being alone, and took out the beholder first, then the vamp, before the liche went down. Of course, everyone was Lvl8+, but then there's no good reason to go any earlier anyway.<hr></blockquote>

So far, that room is holding my interest. I've lost Minsc and Aerie in there so I didn't save the game. Besides that one piece from the female ---which is a great item---- is there anything else of note? I got most of the store bought items from ad mart and only two breaches as my highest spells on Aerie. With some micro, I think I can handle it.

Are there other areas like this one where you need a rogue stone? And about how many more rogue stones are in the game?

Now to get back there and wipe them all out... =/

Jerr Conner 02-04-2002 01:19 PM

In SOA:

Kangaxx

In TOB:

Sendai so far, she has a bunch of lackeys...The Baldur's Gate Fan Fiction Archive

[ 02-04-2002: Message edited by: Jerr Conner ]</p>

SixOfSpades 02-04-2002 11:45 PM

Kangaxx and the Celestial Fury crowd were tough for me because I took them at low levels. Also difficult were the repeated waves of Gauths, Beholders, and various nasty Undead in the Unseeing Eye quest. I lucked out on Kangaxx (My Berserker->Cleric made ONE hit with the Mace of Disruption+2), and the Celestial Fury gang took many reloads (I wonder if I can attack them, then draw them back DOWN the stairs? Hmmm......), and the lair of the Unseeing Eye was so hard because even though my Thief was Hidden in Shadows, Non-Detected, and running away as fast as he could, those damn Gauths still knew exactly where he was & followed him.

I'll also cast a vote for the beginning of the Beholder lair in the Underdark. 2 Elder Orbs right there when you walk in, and your party walks in the wrong way--Mages first. Try getting out of THERE without anyone dying.

Spelca 02-05-2002 08:17 AM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Crimson:
the hardest who be the cow which is in the trademeet because whenever i try to kill it it will explode and so will my characters<hr></blockquote>

An exploding cow? [img]tongue.gif[/img] Where??? Where???

QFLASH 02-05-2002 08:38 AM

Geez i took the Celestrial fury crowd down, but i have high xp! Now KANGAXX is proving to be a pain in the a....! Everytime he gets into demi-lich form he kills all my party and we have almost every useful weapon in the game including Coramyr,Crom Faeyr, Celestrial fury, wave blade, and vorpal.....what should i use to kill this guy, any spell order!

PeeWee 02-05-2002 10:53 AM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by QFLASH:
Geez i took the Celestrial fury crowd down, but i have high xp! Now KANGAXX is proving to be a pain in the a....! Everytime he gets into demi-lich form he kills all my party and we have almost every useful weapon in the game including Coramyr,Crom Faeyr, Celestrial fury, wave blade, and vorpal.....what should i use to kill this guy, any spell order!<hr></blockquote>


I think someone posted a reply to another lich problem sayin to use a protection from undead scroll. Seems like it's gonna be fun. I'm lacking the levels to give pointers based on experience and we probably don't have the same party make-up, but don't let the big battle of your game so far rely on one or two scrolls as being the winning factor.

Once I get there, I'ma try to see how SPELL TRAP holds up against him while my mage baits his spells. I'd use planar protection, protection from evil, fire protection, skins, draw upon holy might, haste, chant, defense, fire shield, bless, aid,DEATH WARD, chaotic commands, and then spell immunity/ spell trap.

Then plant that bugger in front of the lich and see what happens. Cast fodder from wands and doom, doom, doom, pierce magic, breach, thrust, and so on....maybe even a miscast magic in his area to see how it goes. This is all stuff I'd do so don't quote me as it being viable.

If I knew what spells he were landing, I could give more advice. chaotic commands and death wards are probably gonna be big helpers. If he summons a fiend, I'd definitely dispell magic him to see if that would wipe away his protection. Always worked on other liches right when they gated in the pit fiends. I know I read a thread about daystar... think someone said it was ineffective against him. I'd still try it if you hadn't already.

Well, G'luck. If I wasn't bored of going to the temple district, I'd try to look for those pieces to get to Gaxx today. Is it time consuming? My only mage Aerie is still lvl 9.....so I'm working on the ployer quest now for exp(trying to get her pierce magic). Did the compound and twisted rune group earlier today/last night. So got the two good pieces and need a good boss npc to test everything out on.

daan 02-05-2002 11:13 AM

I believe demi-liches are immune to everything, but lvl 10 spells .
But i do know one lvl 3 spell i used to beat the cr*p out of him, time and time again >:)

Haladar 02-05-2002 04:21 PM

I would have to say that kangaxx is probably the hardest single enemy in the game, but if you use my tactic, which isnt even cheesy, he's easy:

Cast Spell Immunity to whatever class it is that imprisonment is on a mage
Have that mage walk up to Kangaxx and start attacking him.
Then, while he is firing useless shots at the mage, attack with the rest of your part. He has low hp, so he'll be dead in seconds.
Alternatively, if you have ToB, wait in BG2 till you mage is lvl 18, then walk in and cast Dragon Breath...one crispy demilich

Sir Michael 02-05-2002 04:34 PM

If you've got the items, the Demi-Lich is easy. Just use a pro from undead scroll on your strongest fighter (preferably Korgan), cast improved haste on him, hide the rest of the party at the other side of the room, and wail away on Kangaxx with Crom Faeyer. Actually, that strategy worked good for beholders, too...using a pro from magic scroll instead of a pro from undead scroll.

Dragons are never easy, even with the MR cheese technique, but my vote for most irritatingly difficult monsters are mind flayers. Even with Mordenkainen's sword, chaotic command spells, and potions of genius, they still seem to sneak through and take out at least one party member.

Demostenes 02-05-2002 07:09 PM

Well kangaxx is hard to battle but... after trying to combat him with magical protections and pierce magic,lower resistances, I always ended up dead so i decided to kill him the old fashioned way, surround him and chop chop chop.... u can kill him before he finishes his sentence [img]smile.gif[/img] )))

Aurum 02-05-2002 09:45 PM

I think that were the admantite golems.


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