Saw it today and I have to say it was probabaly the best out out of the trilogy. It was a little short I thought, but they crammed a lot into the movie. There was also a bigger dramatic effect which I thought worked pretty good. Oh, haha, I forgot that they even did a spot for the "Juggernaut B*tch"

[ 05-30-2006, 11:08 PM: Message edited by: T-D-C ]

I enjoyed the movie but did not like some of the choices they made concerning the death or certain characters. On a side note was happy to see Psylock make a (short) appearance. But I really would have loved to see Gambit in there!

Was wondering if anyone know somewhere I could find a list of all the mutants who appeared in the third movie?

I was trying to figure out what that shockwave mutant was, It reminded be of rocky horror picture show. I thought Vinne Jones was awsome!

I woulda liked to see Gambit in ther too, i dont kno why the left him out and the official site of the movie has a pretty good list of the mutants, or u could go to imdb.com Shadowhound.
Hahaha yea, i thought the shockwave mutant was like a 12 year old boy til i saw the bra she was wearing.

So wait, Psylocke AND Angel appear? I'm so gonna go see that tonight...

I'm thinking about going to see it today, if I can get some people to go with me. I'll let you guys know how I found it when I get back, but I'm expecting to like it.

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[ 05-27-2006, 11:24 AM: Message edited by: Luvian ]

I'm not sure, but I'm think if there was a "shockwave guy" it would be "Avalanche." Haven't seen the movie yet, so I don't really know, though.

Enjoy the sandals, Larry! :D

I saw on imdb.com that she was called "Arclite", but who is Psylocke?

Great movie, it was very epic! I'll just say this about the ending. It started out crappy but the very very last part...had stunned me!

I'll go see it tomorrow... Yeah, dang, I know...
So I've just got one question... will there be an X4?

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The biggest question is what the heck with Magneto at the end? I never read comics growing up. How did he start getting powers again?

I Loved the special effects of Jean when she'd go into Phoenix-mode. From her face to her powers, it was a helluva trip! And that last part with Wolverine taking her on and her sniping pieces of skin off him...She could have killed him, right? She was just picking at him to warn him, right? I guess there was no chance at saving her alive? I suppose she would not have wanted to live after doing all that she had. They said she was a level 5. What the heck is that? What are the others? Is she the only one that was so strong?

Rogue. If she's no longer a mutant, why did she go back to the mansion? What about that girl Kitty?

Why the heck did the professor smile at Wolverine at the end of his life? Why did he accuse Wolverine of setting her free when he could easily know the truth of that with his own mind-reading powers?

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[ 05-28-2006, 12:55 AM: Message edited by: Larry_OHF ]

Oh CRAP! I just read somewhere that I was supposed to stay after the credits to see something! What is it?

IIRC Angel wasn't that powerful. Its only when he became Arch Angel that he became a major bad ass

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With Magneto.. I dunno. Maybe the 'cure' is only temporary. They never really told us that they did any long term studies on the effects of it.
Wolverine can regenerate himself quickly, remember? I think Phoenix was trying her hardest, but Wolverine just kept regenerating, etc. I dunno.
There's different levels of mutants.. from what I understand, Magneto, Xavier would be level 4-5. Jean/the Phoenix has by far the potential to be the strongest mutant and may have already reached that point.
As for Rogue.. she loves bobby? [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Well.. remember the in the lesson Xavier was teaching, he shows that clip with the guy in a coma or something? At the end of the credits, it shows the nurse lady and the fellow... and the fellow suddenly pipes up, saying "hello, moira" in Xaviers voice, with the nurse, Moira, saying "Charles?!". In the lesson, xavier was talking about the ethics of transferring your conciousness and whatnot into another body. I assume him smiling at Wolverine is connected to all that.

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Yeah, I don't think the cure is permanent. Probably it only last while ti's still in the body. I guess that someone that didn't want his power could use it with a prescription, take a shot every month or something like that. It also fix the moral problem. If it only last a while they can shoot mutants with it now as a weapon to stop criminals, then keep them medicated while in prison. If they're released they can then have their powers back.

I think Phoenix did her best to disentegrate wolverine but he just regenerated too fast. Of course shw could have tried something else if she wanted. But I think even with all her powers, she was pushing her limit simulatnously raising all the water, disentegrating everyone, the building, flying, the wind... Part of her also wanted to die, so it affected her decision too.

What I don't understand is why she killed Scott, he wasn't a menace and she seemed to be liking him.

Yeah on the mutant power scale 5 is the highest and Magnneto/Xavier are probably 5, but they'd need to break the scale for Phoenix and give here a 6-7 I'd say.

I also didn't see Psylocke, are you guys sure she was in the movie. Oh, and can you believe Magneto left Mystique behind? Not only did she was his most loyal mutant, she sacrificed herself for him, and she was beautifull too...

[ 05-28-2006, 05:56 AM: Message edited by: Luvian ]

Here's Acrlight's profile on wikipedia:

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Just saw it last night, awesome movie. Easily the best of the three for mine. I thought 1 was excellent, 2 was good but not as good, but 3 was easily the best. It was brutal - lots of mutants getting offed, it was hardcore.

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I'm glad someone tipped me off about staying till the end as I was *devastated* when Professor X got blown to pieces by the Phoenix. Even though he may still be alive, the mutant "casualty" list read as follows:

Callisto - offed
Cyclops - offed
Jean Grey/Phoenix - offed
Magneto - got "humanised" and lost his powers (though it appears not all of them)
Professor X - offed (though may have saved himself)
Juggernaut - probably offed (assuming he was in the building that Jean demolished)
Rogue - "humanised" hereself
Mystique - got "humanised"
Quill - offed
Arclight - offed
Psylocke - offed
Spike - offed

I'm sure there were more, but I can't remember their names...

[ 05-30-2006, 02:35 AM: Message edited by: Memnoch ]

I too watched it yesterday. Dang! That was one good movie! Easily the best of the three. I loved McCoy and Colossus, but I missed Nightcrawler. I guess I'll have to play the game to find out what happend to him. Why doesn't Gambit appear yet?

C'mon though, was anyone really that sad to see cyclops go? It seemed to me they made his character so weak and whiney.

Cyclops was boring, I agree. No point in even having him in the series.. he did absolutely nothing then died.

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I think pheonix could have disintergrated wolverene, she managed to destroy all those soldiers pretty fast. I mean if some one like magneto can move the golden gate bridge, then somebody of phonix's power could do all of the stuff luvian luvian suggested, aswell as disintergrate wolverine.
as for rougue, what a wimp!

C'mon man, its Wolvy, nothin can hurt him except Magneto, not anymore though right hehe? But seriously i was dissapointed with som of the mutants, like Rogue and Colosus not kickin more tail, and not knowing for sure about Juggs, but hey how long has the Juggernaut B*tch video been around, I just saw it about a month ago? Oh and i almost forgot, new avatar baby!

[ 05-30-2006, 01:45 AM: Message edited by: Balintherlas ]

The reason for this is that James Marsden, who played Cyclops, had scheduling conflicts with his Superman Returns shoot. As a consequence his airtime was severely curtailed.

The reason for this is that James Marsden, who played Cyclops, had scheduling conflicts with his Superman Returns shoot. As a consequence his airtime was severely curtailed. </font>[/QUOTE]Well in the other 2 movies as well. He's just sort of thrown in because comic book fans would have rioted if he weren't there.

As an action movie, I thought it was ok. As a guy who grew up a X-Men fan, I thought it was god awful.


Cyclops' treatment was terrible, and the scheduling conflict could have been avoided. He was signed to Superman before the shooting schedule for X3 came out, and only for a small part in Superman at that. It was more of move by Fox studios to get back at a perceived traitor than a neccessity as I understand it. And while he wasn't ever that good in the movies, he should have had a strong role in any movie that focused on Dark Phoenix, even if it was a shell of the original story.

As for Phoenix vs. Wolverine - she did once obliterate a star. Destroying Logan would have been child's play to her had she wanted to.

Arclight was a former Maurader, who killed Morlock's in the Mutant Massacre. Made it funny to see her paired with Callisto, the leader of the Morlocks (with completely different powers).

I could go on for days about little things they did without thinking about them that were inconsistent. The point is they could have tried to be somewhat consistant to characterization, at least, if not comic plot, but they didn't.

Yes, well, I just don't see them cramming 40 years of comics into a 6-hour long trilogy. Some things had to be cut. Mystique is Nightcrawler's mom(who's a spawn of a demon) and Rogue's foster parent. She's also a few centuries old. Juggernaut is Xavier's brother. Stryker killed his son at birth(the one loosely modeled after Mastermind). And I don't want to even start on the Phoenix. She once obliterated a star? How long has she been active in the movie? Do you really think he reached the level of powers she had in the comics?
My point is that they had to lose alot of stuff, add a lot of stuff(most of which is closely or loosely modeled after comic events and characters) to better fit the story. Otherwise it would have been boring as hell. So I raise this cup for X-Men and Spiderman, the best comic book movie adaptations ever!

My point above, as I said, was that they could have tried to at least be consistent with characterization if not plot. I never expected them to follow any story lines consistently, least of all the Dark Phoenix story. This was parts of many different story lines crammed together, resulting in a bad story, no characterization and no respect for the material they adapted. Singer's movies had that characterization but didn't follow any established plot arc well, and I loved them.

<font face="Verdana" size="3" color="#009999">Really loved this movie, as for cyclops being offed we can't really tell, it seemed she started too, but that was that than we find his glasses. If there was enough of Jean left she might of spared him. I could even see a Cyclops spinoff starting with we wandering through the forest with his eyes closed.

Callisto - offed
Cyclops - offed??? No body we only assume he was, we can't be sure a part of Jean did not save him
Jean Grey/Phoenix - offed
Magneto - got "humanised" and lost his powers (though it appears not all of them)
Professor X - offed???? (body was - watch the end of the credits)
Juggernaut - offed??? (assuming he was in the building that Jean demolished, again assumptions need to be made)
Rogue - "humanised" herself
Mystique - got "humanised"
Quill - offed
Arclight - offed
Psylocke - offed
Spike - offed
Pyro - offed??? Can't say but I didn't notice him leave so same as Juggernaut for me.

As for Phoenix not destroying wolverine I think the Jean personality may have maintained some control, were talking split personality with the Phoenix being the stronger, also why I think there is a greater chance cyclops is lost in the forest with his eyes closed, may be days, or weeks before anyone finds him. Unless of course I blinked and he really disentigrated.
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[ 05-30-2006, 11:51 PM: Message edited by: pritchke ]

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She only had a small apearance and didnt get to use her powers, she basically only appeared as one of the mutants at the mutant gathering. Asian girl with purple streaks in her hair.

Didnt stay til after credits, what did I miss?

She only had a small apearance and didnt get to use her powers, she basically only appeared as one of the mutants at the mutant gathering. Asian girl with purple streaks in her hair.

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Charles might have transferred his consciousness to another person.

It was surprising to see such a deviation from the storyline, but I'm cool with that. It's not like these stories haven't been rewritten a hundred times anyway. High body count was nice.

From the perspective of someone who never read the comics (my wife), it was the best of the 3.

Wow, guess I'm the only one here who didn't think this was the best of the three....

Number two was still a better movie in my opinion.

The reason for this is that James Marsden, who played Cyclops, had scheduling conflicts with his Superman Returns shoot. As a consequence his airtime was severely curtailed. </font>[/QUOTE]IMO, cyclops was boring in the comic books, in the cartoon, and in the movies. He's a useless character with a gimped out useless power. IMO.

That's probably the main reason I hated X3 - he has been one of my favorites since I started reading the comics back in 1983 ( I was 10, so the early issues I read had a big impact on me). His power wasn't supposed to be great - it was portrayed as more of a curse than anything else. IMO, the best character in the long run although Wolverine, Nightcrawler and Colossus all had their moments and rank up there for me.

Never watched the cartoon, so I can't comment on that, but I would agree he sucked in the first two movies. I was really hoping he would have a decent part in this one.

Finally saw it. I was a bit dissapointed, to be honest. I think I like Pheonix better as an alien intelligence that possesses Jean Grey, rather than Jean just being super powerful to start off with. Makes Charles being the most powerful telepath and what-not void, for one problem. And yeah, I realize they can't go with the huge comic book story (or one of them), but having already exposed to those, this just seemed weak in comparison. Either that, or I'm the purist some fan boys tend to be. ;)