Does anyone else besides myself who play BG1 with the Hardcore rule of Diablo 1&2?(If you die you must delete the saved file) I do this to keep it like a real human who cannot come back from death.

If so how far have you gone without being killed?

I have gone thru alot of chars.(Silke is a real killer of me)

[ 04-30-2005, 06:16 PM: Message edited by: Khayne ]

Having played ADOM and Angband I cannot say the idea is foreign to me. However I do not feel it is within the design of this game to attempt playing it roguelike. Too many things are completely random.
To clarify you cannot reload either unless you start anew after closing down the game. Otherwise you could reload just before dying [img]smile.gif[/img] .
As said I have not attempted. I'd most likely use more items to my advantage, such as a potion of absorbtion and mirror image to take out Silke. I feel that I should be able to complete at least the Nashkel mines without any reloads.

I don't bring any chars back to life,NPC or main.

I don't reload either b4 I die. I play true to get the HC experience.(In real life there is no reloads) It adds to the games fun to see how far I can get with just 1 life per char.

***** Maybe a Spoiler*****
Silke gets some of my chars with the rebound of Lightning spell. I kill her no problem but I do lose chars at her.
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I was just wondering if anyone else did it.

Do you let dead NPCs just go, or do you ressurrect them? I always thought it was silly that NPCs can be brought back, but that the protagonist can not.

I don't bring anyone back from the dead. If a NPC dies it stays dead. I reform the party and refill the space if I can. If my main char dies I start over.(delete the saved files)

It adds to the game I think. Makes it a bit more of a challenge. I only play HC D2 also.

[ 05-02-2005, 01:14 AM: Message edited by: Khayne ]

http://www.adom.de/adom/index.php3
Try it if you like the idea of a one-shot character that stays dead and can bear the ASCII graphics. Completion is very rare. Do not expect to complete the game the first three months. I have only completed it six times myself.

I understand exactly what you mean Khayne, and I myself subscribe this way of playing. It makes the game much more difficult because you can cheat through reloads. As for myself, the farthest I ever made it, with my PC, without dying, was all the way up to Draconis in Throne of Bhaal. The son of a bitch wiped us out in the blink of an eye. Mainly because I had no idea on what tactics to use to kill him. But it took me the better part of a year and a half to play the series several times, and know how to get out of a jam. Playing realistically also makes you brainstorm faster, because you have to think quick in order to stay alive. However, I treat my PC differently. If any of my party members are killed I usually revive them at one of the temples. The whole godly intervention thing works for me, but since your PC is a spawn of Bhaal, and dying would destroy him or her completely, I just start over.

I have never done this with a party, but with a solo barbarian in BGT. I didn't play quite like you said though, the game was on insane etc. but when I died I just reloaded, so I'm talking about how far I got before dying. I managed up till Durlags, with the jelly's etc.

What's the problem with resurrecting dead NPCs? If the temple's have the power to resurrect characters, I don't see that as cheating. It's no different to using healing spells to recover lost hit points.

Yeah, that is what is 'real life' within the game, ie any NPC that has not had his body destroyed could be resurected. That is allowed within a traditional no-reloads game, is it not?

You are reading my post wrong. I asked if anyone esle played the way I do. Nowhere does it say you have to play the way I do. I like the challenge of not bringing anyone back. The name of the game is to have fun and this is fun for me.

I am playing that way now (my second time through BG1 in 2 years), and am 7th level (fighter) just into the city of Baldur's Gate. I will say one thing... I told myself I was going to go all the way thru without dying once... and I have (Silke never even got that Lightning Bolt off, the biotch). But, I have made all my level-ups at max hit points to help a bit. It has been VERY slow going.. lots of scouting ahead and ALWAYS fleeing if I get down half hitpoints or so. It feels more real and the tough battles really ARE scary...I've had some close calls, even with 5 potions of extra-healing in a quick-slot.
I use the temples for ressurection (only once so far... Minsc...) because it's AD&D for goodness sakes, and if Dynaheir can throw fireballs, then Keldath Orymyr can ressurect, dag-nabbit. [img]smile.gif[/img]
BTW- I don't throw ANY Lightning bolts EVER...those bouncy bastards usually do more damage to my party than to my target! I also commonly have Branwen readying healing spells as soon as I go into a battle that I know I'm gonna get hit (Larze the Ogre Assassin @ Blushing Mermaid was a real close one).

I have had more close calls. Once my party was ambushed by basilisks, and one of them shot off the paralyze spell at Jaheira. Luckly she didn't turn to stone and the party just barely made an escape before more spells came.

The key for me vs. the basilisks was hearing them. They make a kind of slithering noise, and at that point, I cast an invisibility on my PC while he guzzles a potion of mirrored eyes. I also had protection from petrification scrolls/spells ready in quick slots in case the fight lasted longer than expected. With an 18/86 strength, the fight was always over in a matter of a few blows. Ghorak (the friendly ghoul) was key as well.

Glad to hear it Lord Michael, and Mellagar sounds like fun. Good Luck

<font color = lightgreen>Come, now. Lightning bolt is great fun! Of course, my mage uses the Boots of Grounding and the Robe of Electrical Resistance and a Potion of Absorbing, so he is totally immune to electrical damage. Those items, about 3 or 4 Wands of Lightning, and one of the closed-in maps like the Ulcaster ruins is laughably funny! *zzt*

For some more fun with lightning, give everyone a Potion of Abosrption and visit the chessboard in Durlag's Tower. [img]graemlins/laugh3.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img] </font>

Durlag's Tower is my next conquest. I saved it for the last thing except the Final Battle. I'll try the Potion of Absorption fun. I do have a wand of lightning in my stash house, so I'll take it with me.

P.s. - I came within 20 hp of dying the other night. Lightning bolts WERE involved. To come so far and almost die was VERY spooky. I have been buffing up ridiculously for every fight since. Costs alot of gold to buy potions and scrolls for protection, but I'm finishing this thing without dying (I hope)!
Thank goodness for the Ring of Invisibility and Cloudkill!

<font color="cyan">I only wish I could cast Cloudkill....stupid Xan.

I miss Edwin hehe.</font>

I love Dynaheir! I killed Edwin early on. Is it just because Dynaheir is an Invoker (and limited to certain spells with her specialty) that no one seems to have any respect for her?
She is a death machine for my party. I've had her in my party both times through BG/TotSC, so maybe I just use her abilities well. Plus she's got hot bedroom eyes! [img]smile.gif[/img]

I guess I should also mention that I've always played good parties (except Branwen - I've had her both times around for the cleric abilities), and this time around I took Garrick with me instead of waiting to get Ajantis.
My perfect party has been:
Michael (me)-fighter
Minsc - ranger
Imoen - theif
Dynaheir - invoker
Branwen - cleric
Garrick - bard

I must say I've been impressed with Garrick. I always thought bards were pansies, but he's been worth his weight in rogue stones. There's alot to be said for the bard song/spell casting. I also carry a suit of +2 chain, the crossbow of speed (equiped with bolts of lightning, and he has a sweet magical halberd (+2 or +3 can't remember right now) incase the baddies spawn too close. He guzzles a couple potions and he can be quite effective in battle.

To play that way is very fun. I tried soloing like that, (you die, you delete the save) and it was very hard.

I was playing Kyrvias, a neutral evil half-elf thief.

I spent *alot* of money on invisibility potions, and let me tell you, alone, backstabbing is your friend.

It was reall hard, and I haven't finished through the series yet. in ToB I am at Abizigal.

Arrows of biting and the boots of speed were a great combo for those bigger baddies. To me, this is a real challenge, and I am enjoying every minute of it.

I hear ya. Playing "true life" can make it very exciting and scary at times. I think the biggest benefit is that I've really taken my time (to be careful not to die), and that in & of itself has helped me find many items & quests that I missed the 1st time around. (I had a ring of Fire Resistance very early on thanks to taking my time and scouting slowly...and I missed that wand of lightning near the Nashkel Mines the 1st time around). At the same time, I've had to ressurect Minsc twice now, Branwen once, and almost died a couple times. I still love the excitement of hardcore, it has made this adventure the best by far. I'm REAL scared of Durlag's Tower, and am taking my time setting up equipment on each character, and even moved all my treasure & magic stash from Baldur's Gate to Nashkel for easier access if I have to flee. All of my characters are maxed or nearly maxed in exp, so exp. is not the big deal...SURVIVING IS!

My party has been killed in an ambush. I tried to go past 2 maps and got waylaided by 20 bandits and archers. Oh well time to start over again lol. I could not break away. I tried to flee but there was just too many of them. So I am gonna make my first fighter.

MY PARTY R.I.P. TUTU monsters are harder it seems. I will make a new party now.
Me Dwarf Fighter
Imoen
Montaron
Kivan
Finch
Garrik

Imoen will dual at lvl 3 for I need a mage (if she survives that is lol) remember I do not bring anyone back at temples (you guys can and do so thats fine) I will post as they die and my party changes.

[ 06-22-2005, 09:24 PM: Message edited by: Khayne ]