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Calaethis Dragonsbane 04-16-2005 12:35 AM

As the title suggests... however, I want to play it with Tutu..., now, the only real thing I'm concerned about is, well, are there any NPC interactions mods out there for BG1? I seem to recall it being well - a lot less banter went on. I want it baaaack. (so to speak). So, before I get the disks out and start installing *both* BG1, 2 and dling various mods, does such a banter/interaction BG1 mod exist, or am I wasting my time?

Oh, and in theory, since BG1 is using the BG2 engine with BGTutu, shouldn't various BG2 mods work? Like that subrace mod that's out there?

Just a few queries to waste your time :D

Thanks in advance,
CD.

Calaethis Dragonsbane 04-16-2005 01:00 AM

Actually, don't mind me. I've discovered a mod after some searching. Although, I'll likely have a few questions... like, does Shadow Keeper work with Tutu?

Dace De'Briago 04-16-2005 01:33 AM

Yup, Shadowkeeper works with Tutu [img]smile.gif[/img]

Calaethis Dragonsbane 04-16-2005 03:06 AM

OMFG. I am going to destroy this crapile I call a computer. Tutu is installed, but none of the effing other fixpatches, tweaks or god only knows what else will install. It says there's an "error" but it won't say what, even though its in the right goddamn folder. My BG1 *english* *shop* bought copy won't work either, saying that it's a US/Canadian version and will only work there. I have no idea what the *hell* is wrong with this damn thing, but its driving me insane.

Calaethis Dragonsbane 04-16-2005 03:18 AM

Great, just friggin' great. Now I can't even RUN BG2. I re-installed tutu, and now, when I run BG2 - it says "An assertion failed in Chitin.cpp at line number 1628
Programmer says: Error initializing key table, bad key file".
...
Goddamn this wretched game.

ElfBane 04-16-2005 04:00 AM

Getting tutu to work can be a bit trying. Make sure you do a COMPLETE install of BG1, or it won't work. If you have the 3 disk version of BG1(Oringinal Saga), the only way to do a complete install is to select the "custom" install option, then manually select everything on the disks. Even if you have good installs of the basic games, I found that TuTu is very 'bitchy' about multiple mods installing correctly. Does the game run at all?

Calaethis Dragonsbane 04-16-2005 04:17 AM

I did a full install, did everything TuTu specified... it still hates me. I've no idea why. I could try re-installing it, but I spent a long time just installing the damn thing to start with.

And no, it won't run at all. I have BG Tales of the Sword Coast - although, this is a three disk set. It doesn't seem to matter *what* I do, it still seems to be being "bitchy" as you put it. Honestly, I don't know what I've done wrong.

The other thing I noticed was, it won't let me run TuTu to even install unless I start changing folder names. The default for BG1 is pathway is: "C:\Program Files\Black Isle\Baldur's Gate"
...
So, it should look like this:

~source~ [ ~C:\Program Files\Black Isle\Baldur's Gate\~ ]
~source.variant~ [ ~BG1~ ]

~target~ [ ~C:\Program Files\Black Isle\BGII - SoA~ ]
~target.variant~ [ ~BGII - SoA~ ]

Right?

Because if not, it would explain a hell of a lot. It's bugging the hell out of me as well, so any help would be appriecated vastly.

ElfBane 04-16-2005 02:04 PM

Don't know what to suggest. The syntax looks correct. I would do a complete reinstall,, I mean completly uninstall, reboot, reinstall both games. Make 'triple' sure the syntax is correct, and try to get BG1 running in TuTu BEFORE adding any mods. Once you can get to the BG1 prologue(CandleKeep),,, THEN go back and start adding mods. And if you have the same experience I did, half the time you'll have to reload WeiDu mods, cause it 'bitches' about the install.
Once you get it working, I recommend the "Indira" NPC mod. Valley Girl goes adventuring..and killer 'camp' voice acting!

Calaethis Dragonsbane 04-16-2005 07:37 PM

*nods* I may end up doing that then - I already dled the Indira mod, btw, as well as a few others. I'm disappointed that it isn't working properly. *sigh*. Ok, I'll do a reinstall and get back to you lot. Cheers again.

Andyr 04-16-2005 09:06 PM

What are the error messages you are getting? Providing the pathways you entered are correct (case-sensitive) and you have full installs with patches of BG1 and BG2 then the Tutu converter should run fine. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Also, mods will work fine with Tutu as they do with normal BG2, provided you read the ReadMes and make sure you follow the instructions. Most bugs are results of people not reading the ReadMe and installing something incorrectly.

Calaethis Dragonsbane 04-16-2005 10:04 PM

It's entirely possible. I've reinstalled both games, full installation, and tried/patched them both. I'll try adding TuTu to it in a bit. With any luck, I'll get it right this time. I do read the readme's carefully, and try to follow everything they say to the letter, but *sigh*... Anyway, I'll post back here if it goes wrong.

Calaethis Dragonsbane 04-16-2005 11:29 PM

Looking at the BGtutu log - it gets past the kits for installation, and then it throws up:
---
ERROR: Unable to find CHITIN.KEY in:
C:\games\BGII

ERROR: Failure("Unable to find CHITIN.KEY: run me in an Infinity Engine game directory")
Converted 0/16694 = 0%
parsing rules 0.000
main 33.688
TOTAL 33.688
--

I'm not sure what to do :S

I guess I'll reinstall it...

---

Well, a reinstall worked - and now, its finally working [img]smile.gif[/img]

...or, at least, *most* of it works. Some of the stuff on the fix and tweak packs won't install - Error: failure<"resource [_Drelik.cre] not found for 'copy'"

[ 04-17-2005, 12:42 AM: Message edited by: Calaethis Dragonsbane ]

ElfBane 04-17-2005 01:22 AM

As I said, TuTu is VERY bitchy about mods, but repeated reloads 'usually' work. Now that it's working, kick some serious monster butt!!

Calaethis Dragonsbane 04-17-2005 03:41 AM

*grins* I'm having a lot of fun with my shadow keeped Elf Wizard Slayer/Mage. I didn't want to dual class, as I prefer multiclassing - not that you can dual class with elves anyway...

Even so, there are some things that *still* won't install, but that aside it's fun so far :D

Andyr 04-17-2005 08:55 PM

Elfbane: Tutu is not bitchy about mods. [img]smile.gif[/img] Errors tend to be with the end-user.

Calaethis: Missing files making fixpacks/mods not want to install generally mean that your BG1 CDs are scratched so files weren't copied in the Tutu conversion. What is a good idea to do is look in this thread and see if your install is missing any of these files: http://forums.pocketplane.net/index.php?topic=17613.0

If so, it means that they were corrupted on your BG1 install so you should copy them over from the CD. [img]smile.gif[/img] Then stuff should install properly, and I'd recommend you use the Tutu Fixpack at least.

Calaethis Dragonsbane 04-17-2005 10:02 PM

I'd love to use the fixpack, and the tweaks - already, there are some areas where I can't go without the game crashing out of me. The disks shouldn't be scratched, they're practically new... but I'll go read it and see if it helps. Cheers [img]smile.gif[/img]

Edit: All the files are there - I checked, but haven't double checked, and they seem to all be there so I don't know what the problem is :(
Edit 2: http://forums.pocketplane.net/index.php?topic=18904.0 <- that sounds all to similar to what is happening to me. It might be SoA...

Hmm, upon running that program it says: It appears your installation is complete... so if that's the case... maybe I'm doing something else wrong...?

Although, despite the bugs/errors, I am having a lot of fun and this really is a nice mod! :D


I do have a question though - is it possible to have another folder whereupon one can play BG2 without having to reinstall the game? I'm sure I remember somewhere there was someone who wrote up some post whereupon you copy part the folder but not the CD folders (in BG2 main) and change the ini file to the directory of where the CD folders are... or am I making no sense here?

[ 04-17-2005, 11:35 PM: Message edited by: Calaethis Dragonsbane ]

RoSs_bg2_rox 04-22-2005 05:58 PM

Yes there is. Get yourself a copy of the Multi-Install tool.

This is great for Tutu and BGT, for the purpose you mentioned.

Calaethis Dragonsbane 04-22-2005 09:26 PM

It looks good and all... except for this:
Not Found
The requested URL /bg2_multiinstaller/bin/multiinstall_win32_4.0.exe was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache/1.3.33 Server at www.learnedscholar.com Port 80


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