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I think it was very good movie. Some of Arnie`s comic inputs were well put into the movie.
"Die you bastard" "I cannot fullfil your request". :D |
Or when he went shoping on the gas station and the Manager said:
Won`t you pay?! Talk to the hand. ROFLMAO,ROFLMAO and ROFLMAO! This cracked me up like there`s no tommorow. |
more senseless killing was needed
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Oh and TX is a hot chick. [img]smile.gif[/img] [ 08-16-2003, 03:30 PM: Message edited by: Xen ] |
TX did touch kate, back at the clinic when she asked her where John Connor was.
And John had to be protected now, because the things he has to do before he gets killed are important. Besides, maybe after he knows hes going to be killed by a T-101 of that model, he'll survive it. Skynet itself is inevitable, but these trips to the past can change the details. |
wasn't what i was expecting but it was good i enjoyed it [img]smile.gif[/img]
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She did touch her? Hmm i forgot. So basiclly Johnn Connors`s death is inevitable. But could Skynet be shut down? Or destroyed?
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Well it was supposed to be in the last movie, but I heard Rise of the Machines was supposed to take place, well, as to say "What if they didn't destroy the chip or the arm?" That's what I heard anyway.
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It's a bit of a shame, because T3 denied the message of the first two films:
T1: 'The future is not set.' T2: 'The future is not set.' T3: 'Sorry, the future IS set. We want to make T4.' I can only imagine that the point of Skynet being inevitable was that it was already being developed before the events of the first Terminator movie; the discovery of the chip only sped up the process and made it possible in the 1990s. Otherwise it's just... silly. You note Arnie refers to himself as a Model 101 Terminator, but not once does he say he is a Cyberdyne Systems Model 101... because Cyberdyne Systems were destroyed in T2, possibly? So here's a mindbender for you; Judgement Day took place in the year 2003, but because John Connor could remember his mother telling him it occurred in 1993 - and he also remembered that was the reason he and his allies destroyed Cyberdyne Systems - he told Kyle Reece to tell Sarah Connor that Judgement Day took place in the year 1993 before sending Kyle back in time.Far-fetched, but possible... Or could Skynet have sent itself back in time? After all, the T-X has a modem. What's stopping Skynet loading itself into a Terminator, travelling back in time, and becoming the mysterious virus that hits the world - and THEN, when the original Skynet is first brought online, the future Skynet takes control of it? Time travel films never make sense. |
Actually, if you view the first movie, it seems to scream out "the future is set." It was like a big loop (send back Reece, conceive Conner, Conner grows up to send back Reece). Everything from the Polaroid photo on seems to indicate that the future is fixed, and all the time travel did was to ensure that it would happen anyway. If you read the book version (with scenes cut from the movie version), it is even more apparent. One of the parts that they cut out is Arnie cutting open the legs of the Sarah Conners he was killing, looking for pins put in the leg. The reason: there were medical records that Skynet got a hold of that stated that Sarah Conner had pins in her leg from an injury. However, the injury that causes this is the shard of the Terminator that goes through her leg at the end of the movie. Thus, the Terminator came back looking for an injury that its own presence in the past caused.
Personally, T2 was a really good movie, but I feel they could have left the original movie alone. It worked just fine as a single movie; many other movies out there that got sequels really didn't need them (Men in Black, Predator, Alien, etc.). Hollywood knows that people flock in droves to a sequel of a previous hit, so they just keep pumping them out. Is T4 supposed to (finally) show this big war in the future? |
When they said judgement day is inevitable, to me, they said:
"Human are a greedy war-mongering species, no mather what they do, they will end up creating weapons they can not control". That's why no matter how often they destroy the uncontrolable weapon (skynet) it just delay the inevitable. As for John Connor, he is not destined to die. In fact, he got killed because of what happened in T2. In the T2, when they told what would happen, John Connor did survive and lead the human to victory. But when they stoped skynet in the past, it changed the future in T3, and John Conor was killed because of his love of the T-1000. I'm pretty sure that after the event of T3, he'll be more prudent and won't be killed. |
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But I don't understand (mainly because I haven't seen T3), but you mean that the storyline leads to T3 because they destroyed Skynet but it still didn't prevent the war of the machines. So, that means that it's creation is inevitable. So confusing. |
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Oddly, I really do prefer T2 to the original. I think it's because of the villain. The T-1000 seemed to have something... I dunno. Something the T-X certainly lacks. |
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