From IMDB

'Phantom Menace' Is "Worst Sequel Ever"

Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace has been voted the worst movie sequel of all time in a poll by American TV network E!. The highly anticipated 1999 prequel beat off fierce competition from the likes of Batman & Robin, Speed 2: Cruise Control and Jaws: The Revenge, to be crowned king of disappointing follow-ups. The Phantom Menace - made over 15 years after George Lucas' original Star Wars trilogy - starred Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor alongside a cast of computer-generated creatures. Jeff Reid of E! says, "Liam Neeson gave the old Jedi a try, but Ewan McGregor looked like he was still in Trainspotting. And the convoluted storyline didn't help. If there's one sure thing about Hollywood and sequels, it's that no matter how bad a movie is, it can always be re-made worse. In Tinseltown, imitation is not the sincerest form of flattery - it's an established path to commercial success. But all-too-often, part deux is really part doo-doo."

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Such a lack of knowledge these people have...has no one seen Halloween:H2O? or how about Jason X? Or perhaps the vintage works of Roger Corman or "It came from outerspace II"? :D I think they are way off base. :D </font>

<font color=skyblue>Maybe they are categorizing it by popularity or price range or fan expecatncy. Gotta admit, Star Wars should receive more hype than most other movies, and if it flopped, the fall would be from a higher ground than the others</font>

I think they were more than kind, Attack of the Clones should get worst movie title, as well as worst sequel (although Ewan McGreggor did much better, and I didn't hate JarJar as much, and Yoda... well his fight scene says enough)

That's rough. Phantom was bad, but worse than speed 2? That's hitting them where it hurts.

[ 05-27-2003, 01:58 PM: Message edited by: Lord Killjoy ]

I'm sorry, but I don't understand how Attack of the Clones is worse than the Empire Strikes Back or Return of the Jedi? They're all corny and obvious! And frankly I think it's better than Attack of the Killer Tomatoes :D

I think they're forgetting Weekend at Bernie's 2 [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img]

My personal pick for worst sequel would be Star Trek III: The Search for Spock.

The only saving grace of that movie was Christopher Lloyd.

Batman & Robin... I actually paid to see that "Movie", if you can call it that. I almost demanded my money back, but then realized it wasnt the poor ticket guys fault, it was George Clooney's. (Although he did an acceptable job in The Perfect Storm) Ug, I hated Batman & Robin, hated it with a PASSION!

Exactly. They are probably rating it based upon hype/expectation versus actual movie experience. There are many critics out there that have panned "The Swarm" as the worst movie of all time. Is that to say it is worse than "Plan 9 from Outer Space"? Not hardly. But Plan 9 was done on a shoestring budget with no stars other than Bela Legosi (who was out of the spotlight a long time before this film, and died 2 days into shooting). No one expected it to be good. The Swarm, on the other hand, had an all-star cast (Michael Caine in his prime, etc.), a huge budget, and a ton of hype. It is definitely a bad film. The special effects were garbage even by 1979 standards, the acting was horrible (a highlight was a female doctor walking into a room and noticing that a patient has died. Does she signal the emergency and try to resuscitate the patient? No. She simply yells flatly, "Carl, we have a problem."), and the script was a completely unbelievable pile of rotting horse dung. However, despite all of that, Plan 9 is a worse film than The Swarm. It just was not as huge of a letdown as The Swarm was.

Everyone was hyping The Phantom Menace like crazy. Everyone was waiting for George Lucas to recreate the magic, and many (including myself) were highly disappointed at the results. Did anyone expect Attack of the Clones to be better than Phantom Menace? The only reason I saw it in theatres was that the rest of my friends wanted to see it, and then I convinced them to go during a matinee.

Jason X, Halloween H2O, and Weekend at Bernies 2 were hardly hyped as huge blockbuster movies, nor did most people expect them to be very good. Now Star Trek III and Batman & Robin did get quite a bit of hype, but neither were considered to be as huge a blockbuster as The Swarm was supposed to be.

Anyway, I think that is the logic behind their thinking...

Oh god, You HAD to remind me of Jason X? :D I actually laughed at that one! it was more comedy that anything!!!!

And.... Jason vs Freddy is coming. lol. Anyone gonna see THAT? Just to see how silly, silly can be?

I think it all comes down to timing and since the Phantom Menance isn't that old of a movie it is still "fresh" on people's minds. For example, I just read that Baldur's Gate 1 has been ranked 63rd best game of all time. 63rd??? I'll bet if this survey was conducted 3 years ago BG1 would be much higher. The old adage still holds: Out of sight, out of mind.

I think it’s wrong to blame the directors or the producers or even the actors for these horrible horrible sequels. The real blame belongs to the movie going public. As long as stupid people shell out money to see sequels to movies holly wood will keep making them.

So who wants to go see Home Alone 4?

<font color = lightgreen>Bad, yes, but hardly the worst. Superman IV. Ace Ventura II: Nature Calls. Others I am trying to forget, so the names escape me. [img]graemlins/laugh3.gif[/img] </font>

Gee, I guess I really suck then ;) I love The Phantom Menace, besides Jar Jar Binks, who still wasn't as bad as everyone made him out to be IMO. Anyway it wasn't that bad. Alot of movies and sequals were worse than any of the Star Wars movies.

(Rumor has it that the Dungeon & Dragons movie has a sequal coming in 2004, lets hope that it doesnt eventually qualify!)

But I did't believe the hype then, so I may as well not start now.

That Jar Jar guy turned the movie into a nightmare. I spend every single moment hoping that they'd either blow him to pieces, or leave him on some astroid.

How can anyone actually like this character!

http://www.sigmainstitute.com/ws/news_images/jarjar.jpg

Bah [img]tongue.gif[/img]

You have to admit though, Jar Jar wasn't too bad in Episode II. It was probably due to the fact that he didn't speak much. :D

Hopefully in Episode III we won't even see his face ;)

[ 05-28-2003, 08:24 AM: Message edited by: GokuZool ]

Mesa thinkin' hesa sucks. Thata bigboss Lucas like-a-ly cuta hisa time on da bigscreen causa dis.

But, except for him I liked the flick. And, while Empire rocked, it ain't like Return of the Jedi was an astouding critical masterpiece. Lucas's own version of how Ewoks came to be sucks. "Well, it was supposed to be a planet of wookies, but we'd already made one into a main character, so we chopped them in half." :rolleyes: If forced to choose, I'll take gungans over Ewoks.

It gets worse. I suppose this Jar Jar Binks character did better then we thought ;) ;

Fans Outraged at New Character in The Return of the King
By Brian Briggs

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Wellington, New Zealand - A recently leaked trailer for The Return of the King has Tolkien fans outraged over the apparent addition of a new character - Jar-Jaromir. The scene depicted in the trailer shows Jar-Jaromir shouting, "Gondora gonna fallsa";
he then trips over a corpse and knocks down a couple of Uruk-hai.

Producers of The Lord of the Rings trilogy confirmed the addition of the half-brother of Boromir and Faramir.

"While The Two Towers is performing better at the box office than The Fellowship of the Ring, we are worried about a demographic that is skewing much older than desired. More mature fans are very good to have, but it's the younger fans who buy the merchandise. That's really what brings in the bucks on a movie like this," said producer Tim Wilcox.

"People complained a lot about Gimli just being there for comic relief," continued Wilcox. "We answer that criticism by directing the humor through Jar-Jaromir in The Return of the King. There's this funny scene where Jar-Jaromir decides it's best to hand the ring over to Sauron, but then he drops it and kicks it into Mount Doom. Hi-larious."

Purists, miffed by the deviations in The Two Towers, were so enraged by Jar-Jaromir as to be rendered speechless. A less pure, calmer fan who was able to form words said, "Tolkien mentioned a lot of different races and creatures, but never a Gungan or even a half-Gungan. I think I'm going to vomit."

One fan tried to rationalize the move. "Maybe the Star Wars universe and Middle-earth intersect. Middle-earth certainly is a long time ago and why couldn't it be in 'a galaxy far, far away?' Nothing said it's our earth." He then broke down and started crying.

Director Peter Jackson explained how the Jar-Jaromir character was added after all the other footage had already been shot. "That's the brilliant thing about digital editing and graphics. We didn't even imagine Jar-Jaromir in the movie until a couple of weeks ago, but now we can just edit him right into the key scenes. I really think it's going to be a hit with the toddlers."

Jackson added, "I just love it when he shouts, 'Yousa steala precious from meesa!'"

From; http://www.bbspot.com/News/2003/01/jaromir.html

[ 05-28-2003, 06:36 PM: Message edited by: Dreamer128 ]

Or how about the Highlander sequels? :D

Definitely not the worst in an absolute sense (not even close in my book)... but it was a big disappointment. AOTC was a pleasant surprise (except for the silly name) given my Menace lowered expectations.

<font color=skyblue>Any sequal that Disney does is also a load of poo. Cinderella 2, Hunchback 2, Tarzan 2, etc...and now they have Atlantis 2! I liked the first one, but will not even waste my time to rent this one. </font>

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Dreamer that was priceless [img]smile.gif[/img] I got a great laugh out of it :D Im with Timber, I thought it was a good movie....but I didn't hate jar jar..sheesh..I didn't think he was all that bad....I suppose it would have been cooler if he turned out to be a Jedi master or something [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>

Halloween H20 EH? i dunno man Halloween 3 - season of the witch always stuck in my mind as THE worst Sequel ever, just because of its sheer lack of relevance to anything.

H20? What about Halloween Resurrection? That movie was a sure-bomb even before it came out. At least nobody has mentioned Meatballs 4 or the Leprechaun sequels yet (don't ask I beg you).

I enjoyed that fight scene. Yoda got an award for it:
http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/n...s20030602.html

i didnt *hate* jar jar binks either. actually, i found him rather amusing(granted, he is annoying).

IMO, the worst movie everwas the "Halloween" movie where the pumpkin masks started to devour the heads and all those bugs and snakes started coming out. that was truly [b]awful[b], and a pain to watch do to its magnificent awfulness.

I like Jar Har very much. As the res of the movie.I like the older episoeds-4,5,6...

[ 06-04-2003, 04:12 PM: Message edited by: Xen ]

For those who dislike Jar Jar you can Interrogate him yourself! [img]graemlins/evillaughter2.gif[/img]

http://www.slip.net/~jcamef/JarJar.html
http://www.thereisanother.com/gametrilogy/bjjb_03.asp

and after that
http://www.idleworm.com/sfi/jrwr1.shtml
http://www.idleworm.com/sfi/jrwr2.shtml

Good sites if you are having a bad day.

A fun site to read the news like Jar Jar
http://www.hit-n-run.com/jarjar.html

[ 06-04-2003, 04:53 PM: Message edited by: pritchke ]

That's Halloween 3: Season of the Witch. That bit, as well as all the other Halloweens after the first two, everything after the first Freddy, etc. Those probably were not even considered since everyone kind of knew right from the beginning that they were going to suck.

In fact, let's throw in the Jaws 2-4, A Return to Salem's Lot, etc.