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Yorick 05-02-2003 03:05 AM

Wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow!

Wow.

Memnoch 05-02-2003 04:18 AM

Saw it, thought it was good, but I expected better. 7/10 for mine. Where was Juggernaut?!?!? And I want more Colossus!! :D

Kakero 05-02-2003 04:32 AM

that good uh? I'll be looking forward to it.

Is the main character of the movie is Wolverine again?

Vaskez 05-02-2003 06:48 AM

You bastard stop teasing me! I can't watch it for a few days yet cos of a report I have to hand in! grrrrr! ;)

Larry_OHF 05-02-2003 09:09 AM

<font color=skyblue>Ziroc should probably close down the movie forum if everybody decides that GenCon is the right place to post movie discussions. Sad, isn't it?</font>

quietman1920 05-02-2003 10:49 AM

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Beaumanoir 05-02-2003 02:29 PM

I'm going to see that movie just for Colossus and NightCrawler. How long are they in it for? They are my two favourite characters. Ace. I heard Colossus only makes a brief appearance... :( In the paper it also said that the Beast makes an appearance...

Beaumanoir 05-02-2003 02:35 PM

I bet it'll be ace. I hope they do loads of sequels too. I love X-Men.. What about Gambit? He There? Can someone find some pictures of colossus and the Beast from the movie? I wanna see :D

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Ziroc 05-02-2003 03:18 PM

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Originally posted by Memnoch:
Saw it, thought it was good, but I expected better. 7/10 for mine. Where was Juggernaut?!?!? And I want more Colossus!! :D
HEY!! No fair! [img]smile.gif[/img] I'm going to see it tonight! I'll let ya all know too!!

MagiK 05-02-2003 06:32 PM

1:00PM showing for me [img]smile.gif[/img] WOW great flick...Juggie will have to be in the next movie...and I think I see a Phoenix about to rise [img]smile.gif[/img]

I give it 8 of 10 and I grade kind of hard.</font>

Yorick 05-02-2003 06:36 PM

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1:00PM showing for me [img]smile.gif[/img] WOW great flick...Juggie will have to be in the next movie...and I think I see a about to rise [img]smile.gif[/img]

I give it 8 of 10 and I grade kind of hard.</font>

Don't be spoiling Magik.... might want to edit mate. ;)

Vaskez 05-02-2003 09:33 PM

Just saw it tonight. I agree - very good but could have been that little bit better - not sure how but it didn't have that "spark" that leaves you in awe. Nice effects though [img]smile.gif[/img] I also give it 8/10.

Nice touch to include Lady DeathStrike (this is no spoiler it's in the trailer) but in the cartoons, she was Wolverine's ex girlfriend LOL!
And yeah they need to have more of Colossus in it next time!!
Also would like to see Jubilee, Gambit, Beast, Morph etc.

Arledrian 05-03-2003 02:44 AM

Yeah it was a great film, I saw the 9pm show today. Packed as hell in the cinema, but worth the queue. It's the last time I go with a completely ignorant girl though - and I quote: "gee, he looks like captain Picard from Star Trek!" [img]graemlins/crazyeyes.gif[/img]

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pcgiant 05-03-2003 03:46 AM

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Originally posted by Arledrian:
Yeah it was a great film, I saw the 9pm show today. Packed as hell in the cinema, but worth the queue. It's the last time I go with a completely ignorant girl though - and I quote: "gee, he looks like captain Picard from Star Trek!" [img]graemlins/crazyeyes.gif[/img]
Well, he does. :D :D :D

Harkoliar 05-03-2003 03:49 AM

i just saw it yesterday.. it was GREAT!!!.. man colosus looked so cool.. i cant wait to see it again. :D ..

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Yeah it was a great film, I saw the 9pm show today. Packed as hell in the cinema, but worth the queue. It's the last time I go with a completely ignorant girl though - and I quote: "gee, he looks like captain Picard from Star Trek!"
i know your pain. ;) my companion was asking me who was that too.

Bahamut 05-03-2003 07:03 AM

Hehehe... Siren did make some noise did she? :D

StigTC 05-03-2003 07:34 AM

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Originally posted by Beaumanoir:
I'm going to see that movie just for Colossus and NightCrawler. How long are they in it for? They are my two favourite characters. Ace. I heard Colossus only makes a brief appearance... :( In the paper it also said that the Beast makes an appearance...
Yes, Colossus only has a small part, Nightcrawler has a pretty big part though and he really shows of his awesome powers.

And on a complete side note: Beast made an appearance????? Where, I didn't spot him, he's in the credits though on imdb.com, as well as Gambit, just where does those two appear???

Harkoliar 05-03-2003 10:32 AM

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Yes, Colossus only has a small part, Nightcrawler has a pretty big part though and he really shows of his awesome powers.

And on a complete side note: Beast made an appearance????? Where, I didn't spot him, he's in the credits though on imdb.com, as well as Gambit, just where does those two appear???

yeah loved knightcrawler.. one of my favorite before the movie came out.. beast and gambit?? well.. dont know about that..

Cristian 05-03-2003 12:06 PM

ok in 50 minutes im going to the Cinema to see it hope its good=)

Vaskez 05-03-2003 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by StigTC:


And on a complete side note: Beast made an appearance????? Where, I didn't spot him, he's in the credits though on imdb.com, as well as Gambit, just where does those two appear???

Yeah Beast made a VERY small appearance. He was still in his human form as Dr. Hank McCoy - he is on the TV at one point in the background - only for a few seconds.

Jorath Calar 05-03-2003 12:11 PM

Ah shoo, me too, 80 minutes before it start... [img]smile.gif[/img]

Beaumanoir 05-03-2003 12:12 PM

I'm gonna arrange to see it definatly. Its gonna rock. Nightcrawlers Powers are ace. Yea I heard that the beast made an appearance as McCoy. Argh, does anyone know a database with a list of all the mutants and their powers etc?

[ 05-03-2003, 12:17 PM: Message edited by: Beaumanoir ]

Vaskez 05-03-2003 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by Beaumanoir:
I'm gonna arrange to see it definatly. Its gonna rock. Nightcrawlers Powers are ace.
You won't be disappointed - it's done well with the sulphurous smoke left behind when he teleports as well :D it's cool

Beaumanoir 05-03-2003 12:34 PM

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</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Beaumanoir:
I'm gonna arrange to see it definatly. Its gonna rock. Nightcrawlers Powers are ace.

You won't be disappointed - it's done well with the sulphurous smoke left behind when he teleports as well :D it's cool </font>[/QUOTE]Yea I saw that on the trailer. Sweet, Attention to detail eh [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Cristian 05-03-2003 03:39 PM

I L O V E D it i totally recomend it to everyone it was great^^

slicer15 05-03-2003 05:30 PM

Hopefully, Monday for me...if it ain't sold out...

Vaskez 05-03-2003 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by Beaumanoir:
I'm gonna arrange to see it definatly. Its gonna rock. Nightcrawlers Powers are ace. Yea I heard that the beast made an appearance as McCoy. Argh, does anyone know a database with a list of all the mutants and their powers etc?
There're too many!! It would take ages to find all the mutants from all the comics .

One I wish they had in the films (but they never will probably), is Psylocke - she would damn sexy :D

Jorath Calar 05-03-2003 06:03 PM

Just got home... [img]graemlins/wow.gif[/img] that was better than the first one and I loved that one...


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Charlie 05-03-2003 11:10 PM

Sounds like a good film, may have to see it. I saw the first one, thought it was pretty good.

Nanobyte 05-03-2003 11:17 PM

In the few short years of my childhood that I was fixed on Xmen, Nightcrawler was my favorite. They made him even better than what I could have expected. A question though: I thought Mystique was his mother, hence the blue?

the mighty stamar 05-04-2003 02:59 AM

I think you're right. I have all the old X men comics that the movie plots are taken from but its been a while. The mystique character and magneto were never friends for that matter. Magneto was a good guy (depending on the author) who wanted to fix the world no matter what the cost was, a great complicated comic book character. In later issues he leads the X men in place of Prof X....always a conflict of ideals story, not as portrayed in the movie as someone ruthless enough to try to kill all humans. Mystique was a criminal in classic supervillain mold more.

The stories are greatly changed for the movie but they would have to be.

What suprised me about this second movie was how much was just direct by the word quotes from 80s comic books. Including the 15 second hank mccoy scene, I saw on the website the comic it is taken from. The movie audience likely has no idea what its about. In fact last I saw, not too many of these characters are in the current X men comic books, so its only real nerds like me who understand some of this movie.

THE MOVIE IS GREAT. Better than the first one which was good. The ending was not particularly great, it sort of suffer from empire strikes back syndrome of ending and then spending twenty minutes starting the next movie.

Nine of ten. The last movie I was this impressed by was the Star Wars movie, which means this one was better than two towers. And it is, its much more exiting.

Definitely Nightcrawlers powers steal the show. Reading the comic books I really had no idea how someone would try to relate his super powers in movie form. Pretty amazing looking actually.

PS I just saw it and I dont remember a gambit scene at all....anyone remember him in it?

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Bahamut 05-04-2003 06:26 AM

wait it ain't related to the movie at all... but is Shadowcat the strongest mutant? my friend told she is... hmm

the mighty stamar 05-04-2003 06:30 AM

No but she is in the movie briefly the same amount of time, and the same scene as collosus.

Vaskez 05-04-2003 07:37 AM

Heh I guess I am also a bit of an X-Men nerd - but that's from watching all the cartoons when I was younger - not from reading the comics.

How did you figure shadowcat is the strongest? She is a weak little girl - she is the one who can phase through walls and yeah she doesn't get a very big part.

I reckon in the 3rd film they will HAVE to introduce Gambit or the girls in the audience will go crazy :D When I saw it I heard some girls near me talking about how disappointed they were that he wasn't in it.

I bet that they will also show how Hank McCoy turns into Beast in the next one.

Damn I am such an X-Men nerd :D

Stamar - don't you wish they'd put Psyloche in the next movie?

Also you are right, I'd say Magneto was kinda good but he is not afraid of human sacrifice. At the end of the cartoons he takes over leadership of the X-Men too - he is father of that really fast guy - Pietro or something and also another girl mutant whose name I can't remember.

They should also put in that George mutant who helps Mr Sinister - you know the really stretchy one - he's cool :D

Better shut up now

slicer15 05-04-2003 07:45 AM

I love Gambit! He was one of my fav characters. I have only ever seen the cartoon series though, never the comics. They were good...very addictive though, and the cliffhanger endings were annoying for every episode. I got very far into the series...when Phoenix succesfully possessed Jean...it only happened at the end, though...she struck Cyclops, I think...and he says, "Jean?!" or something like that, and she says Jean Grey is no more. She sides with the bad guys in that case...only faint memories. I think Wolverines claws in the film are far better than the cartoon series as well...nice big blades.

Davros 05-04-2003 09:44 AM

Just saw it about an hour ago and loved it. I have never been into the X-Men before, and only watched the first movie 7 days ago because there was nothing better on TV. I thought the first movie went OK, so I forked out to go see this one. Nightcrawler was amazing, and I agree with Jorath that the snippet where hs saves Rogue was way impressive.

the mighty stamar 05-04-2003 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by Bahamut:
wait it ain't related to the movie at all... but is Shadowcat the strongest mutant? my friend told she is... hmm
In X men mythology, the strongest Mutant is either Apocolypse or Magneto.

They fought several times with several outcomes. I havent read up on it in about 15 years but Im sure they have fought since. Apocolypse story uses some sort of highlander story where he has to be the strongest and he is always trying to kill magneto.


BTW one more X men thing. The next movie is called the mutant war.

Well, they already killed the Stryker character. BUT, the key component that hasnt shown up and is a huge part of their story is the sentinels.

The Mutant war is very likely a war between sentinels and the X men, and the brotherhood of evil mutants teamed together. Just a good theory.
I think Sabretooth was in the first one. But A common villain I havent seen yet is juggernaut. Probably shows up as one of magnetos people in the X3. And apocolypse...Well its a long way off but just my theories.

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Harkoliar 05-04-2003 10:52 AM

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BTW one more X men thing. The next movie is called the mutant war.

you mean there is already a xmen movie production ongoing now?? cool! :D

Vaskez 05-04-2003 10:54 AM

Yeah- there is SO much potential in this X-Men world that I wouldn't be surprised (or upset :D ) if they made a series of movies longer than Police Academy or Star Wars. :D

Introducing Apocalypse would be in the last or 2nd to last movie because he is the most powerful of all. In the cartoons it tells you that he stays alive for ever because he rejuvenates himself in the axis of time ...right. Anyway, Apocalypse is
much more powerful than Magneto the way I understand it. He is not only a shapeshifter but is immune to most energy blast-type powers and can change his size to HUGE, hehe. He also has a bad attitude :D "I am as far above mutants as they are above mere humans! Your puny powers are useless against me!" etc. lol

MagiK 05-04-2003 11:20 AM

<font color="#ffccff">Yo, dudes, you must all be really young or not nearly geeky enough [img]smile.gif[/img] As an X-fan from the 70's.....I just have to make some corrections....

1. The Original Xmen consisted of Bobby Drake-Iceman, Jean Grey-Marvel Girl
Scott Summers- Cyclops, uhhh some guy-Angel and Hank McCoy-The Beast, these were the original team. There soon followed several others(part time members)...Alex Summers-Havok (scotts brother only he channeled cosmic rays where scott channeled solar power) Banshee was a sonic abled mutant from ireland, Polaris-was Havoks girl friend and had magentic powers similar to Magneto. Later (much later) came storm, colossus, shadow cat, wolverine, night crawler and rogue and later still cannonball and other new mutants such as Remmey Lebeau aka Gambit. [img]smile.gif[/img] I havent followed this stuff for 15 years so my info on the newer things is non-existant.

2. Magneto started out as a villian and remained a villian for 15-20 years of the comic book, Only reletively recently did he start having bouts of goodness. He led the original "Brotherhood of Evil Mutants" Don't recall who all were actual members at the start...I think Scarlet witch, Quick Silver, Toad and Mastermind were the originals along with Magneto as the leader.

3. Colleen wonders how I can remember this stuff from the 1970's and 80's and yet can't remember that tuesdays and fridays are trash pickup days... :D </font>

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