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Iron_Ranger 01-24-2003 01:31 AM

<font color='white'> I watched Enemy at the Gats for about the 5th or 6th time today. Who else thinks this moive is great? There seriously needs to be more USSR/Nazi WW 2 movies made. Theyre are alot of WW 2 moives, but most are regarding The Allies vs the Nazis. Maybe there is more in Eroupe.

So its good to see something a bit diffrent, and this was diffrent form most war movies because it was more 'personal'. It was focused around 2 people, John Voights character, and Jude Laws character, er, I think it is Jude Laws character anyway, maybe it was the other guy who plays Vasilli Zaistev. Plus it was based on a true story, and that makes it even better. Anyway, its a pretty cool movie, anyone else think so? </font>

[ 01-24-2003, 01:32 AM: Message edited by: Iron_Ranger ]

Memnoch 01-24-2003 06:35 AM

It's good to see a movie with a bit of a twist, something which allows you to look at a historical event from a perspective different to that which you may have been used to. I thought it was quite good! Though the English accents kind of spoiled it for me, I would have loved for the movie to be in Russian with subtitles...

Morgeruat 01-24-2003 10:25 AM

I saw the movie in theters, and am waiting to pick it up on DVD ( I know it's alredy out, but bills are murder...) I loved it, it's nice to see things from a new abgle, I for one new very little about the russian side of the war aside from the scorched earth policy, and russia throwing thousands of men at the germans with little or no regard to their safety.

Legolas 01-24-2003 11:11 AM

Yes, it was a good movie. I saw it only once in the theather, but if the screen had been any bigger it would've been IMAX. 't was a spectacular experience, needless to say.

Tancred 01-24-2003 06:50 PM

Fab film. 'Enemy at the Gates' was the film that showed me that the War Movie was not dead.

Gazza 01-24-2003 11:54 PM

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Originally posted by Iron_Ranger:
<font color='white'>So its good to see something a bit diffrent, and this was diffrent form most war movies because it was more 'personal'. It was focused around 2 people, John Voights character, and Jude Laws character, er, I think it is Jude Laws character anyway, maybe it was the other guy who plays Vasilli Zaistev. Plus it was based on a true story, and that makes it even better. Anyway, its a pretty cool movie, anyone else think so? </font>
Thought this movie was excellent. However it wasn't Jon Voight. Jude Law was Vasilli but the German sniper whos name I cant remember was played by Ed Harris who most people will probab;y remember from The Rock were he was the psycho general guy who captured Alcatraz.

johnny 01-25-2003 02:07 PM

I expected a lot of it, but i was very dissapointed after watching it. They completely raped and abused the original story and left lots of stuff out of it. They took a completely wrong cast for this movie as well. Vassili Zaitsev was from Siberia and had an Asian appearance. Look who played that part. Also, Major Koenig's name was originally Heinz Thorvald, and was a fat wimpy looking kinda guy, not what you expect from a tough officer in the SS.

Read the book "war of the rats", and you'll see what i mean. Despite a huge budget, they've created a very weak movie, with a totally wrong cast of actors. In my opinion this movie is a big no no.

johnny 01-25-2003 09:44 PM

Btw... Iron Ranger... if you really wanna see a good movie about Stalingrad, ask around for the movie "stalingrad"(doh :D ).
It's a German movie, about a group of German infanterists, who are stationed in Italy in 1942, and don't see much action. Then they are transfered to the Eastern front, and they go in singing and full of high hopes.
Needless to say they won't be singing too long. :D

This is a very good, realistic movie, and shows some pretty horrific things that took place there.

Djinn Raffo 01-25-2003 11:23 PM

One of my favorite parts was near the beginning when Zaitsev hooks up with the propoganda guy and when Zaitsev shoots he waits for an explosion to time his shot with and those people just right over there getting shot have no clue where the shooter is because they can't see the shots!

Irongrinder 01-26-2003 01:43 PM

I really loved this movie. I love the way they build up the tension with the close ups on the snipers. Definately a good movie

Iron_Ranger 01-26-2003 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnny:
Btw... Iron Ranger... if you really wanna see a good movie about Stalingrad, ask around for the movie "stalingrad"(doh :D ).
It's a German movie, about a group of German infanterists, who are stationed in Italy in 1942, and don't see much action. Then they are transfered to the Eastern front, and they go in singing and full of high hopes.
Needless to say they won't be singing too long. :D

This is a very good, realistic movie, and shows some pretty horrific things that took place there.

<font color='white'> Cool, thanks I will be sure and check it out. When was it released? </font>

johnny 01-26-2003 03:25 PM

I'll have to get back to you on that. I think my brother or my uncle has it on tape. But i first saw it at least 12 years ago. I can give you more details when i checked with either my bro or my uncle. I'll post it in this thread.

lucius 01-26-2003 10:05 PM

Ive watched this movie 3 times and each time it gets better, you pick out the little details you missed befor.

johnny 01-27-2003 05:03 AM

Iron Ranger, check this out: http://www.cduniverse.com/productinf...&frm=sh_google

Iron_Ranger 01-27-2003 04:06 PM

<font color='white'> Awsome, thanks Johnny, now help me convince my parents to buy something off the internet :D </font>

johnny 01-27-2003 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by Iron_Ranger:
<font color='white'> Awsome, thanks Johnny, now help me convince my parents to buy something off the internet :D </font>
Since this movie is also available on DVD, i think you can ask around in video and recordstores. Most of the time when they don't have it in stock, you can let them order it for you. I've done that a few times with movies and books.

AzRaeL StoRmBlaDe 01-28-2003 03:24 PM

I do have to say, that I liked a lot about this movie. The plot was a fresh perspective, and a sniper battle is always fun. They did a good job building a bleak, realistic atmosphere for the file, and were able to create suspense, with varying camera angles and positions. all and all I thought it was a pretty good movie. it gets 7 of 10 stars from me.


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