Sticky: NWN2 Moves to October!

We just received word from Brandon Smith, co-partner of Community Relations for NWN2 that Atari is moving the release date for Neverwinter Nights 2 to late October. While some of you may be disappointed, frankly I think this is good news. A little more time in the development will definitely result in a more polished game.

Here's the comment Atari made on the changed release date:

Given the sheer size and scope of Neverwinter Nights 2 and its 50 to 60-hour single player campaign, it was decided to move the global release date of Neverwinter Nights 2 out a month to late October. This extra time is invaluable as it allows fine tuning and polishing of both the single and multiplayer experiences to ultimately deliver a game that exceeds the tremendous expectations of the Neverwinter Nights fanbase.
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Yeh, well, I still expect it to be a Christmas release. It's the #1 selling month for the year. And 1 month from Christmas? As I said, I think it'll be a christmas release. [img]smile.gif[/img]

This is good though. Fix all the crappy stuff. And does this mean that the DM client will be IN the release now? Hmm

Nice one...... now its closer to the release of Guildwars Nightfall so will need to see what I will buy as both are holding big expectations for me.

At least I can see/play a preview of nightfall in 2 weeks. No suck luck for NWN2

This doesn't suprise me in the least and I agree, Z, the later the better. I have a feeling that the rumbling about the DM Client *may* have at least given them pause -- but who can tell anymore. This is good news.

Now I think I'll head over to Bioware forums and read the angst that must be flowing in great tears and anguish...

Good to see Atariocious doing what they should have done with other notable games -- like ToEE.

So, I'll just schedule October as the new date to NOT BUY this game.

That's great news!!! Push it off the longer the better jsut so it runs and has the DM client.
Now I have to go sterilize my monitor with bleach seeing that someone mentioned ToEE.....

Just check the "Official web page" and saw that there is a limited edition that is $10.00 more?
Has anyone heard what make ths more special ( I'm thinking it has the DM client added for free)

uh huh...

What is "Special" about it, is they get an extra $10 [img]smile.gif[/img]

Maybe a kick in the nuts? Some Orc poop in a ziplock? :D

Bleh....

I'm thinking 1) they found the "lost" evil campaign from ToEE ( whoops time to get the bleach out again)are are going to include that for 10 bucks or 2) they will try to go for the nostalgia option and put in on floppy disks ( mmmm the joy of sorting / installing 10+ floppies). Count me in

I think it would be more like 1374 floppies

I expect a christmas release, or close to it. Just know, the longer it gets pushed back, the more shit SHOULD be fixed. Doesn't mean that it will be, but a little less "DOOM AND GLOOM" would be nice.

After some considerations, a of course my morbid curiosity, I put in a preorder of NWN2. If nothing else, I hope that the compilation of the old NWN is on DVD since it is a pain to install a 6 cd game these days ;) (Luxurious problems, I do like them so).

Good that they move it back for two reasons as I see it:
More close to a finished or at least better working product.
More time for the mod community with the new tool and system so they can fix things quickly. :D (Sarcastic? Me????)

That's nice. These days games are released around 6 months early, this time we'll only have 5 months of pain to go trough before the game is playeable. :D

Luvian, no truer words have ever been written.

[img]graemlins/Funny_post.gif[/img] Sending bill for keyboard...

You can buy a DVD version that's on one disk, but need a DVD drive to read it.


Otherwise not.

but the real question is...

should I buy it?
sure I still don't have a computer of my own (that will change shortly) but I know the guys at EB are relatively stoked about it, and they are as jaded as I am about various games.

what do you all say?
*thinking about going with a pre-order for it to get that extra stuff*

and no, I won't be abandoning NWN Original any time soon. I just will have those two games on my machine... and possibly Throne Of Darkness (completely legal edition!!!)

Moze, me personally I'm waiting. People who are far more knowlegeable about NWN and how "2" is stacking up have there misgivings.

I'm going to wait a month and let the community give their reviews. Just my 2 cents worth.

Well, this is the latest thing...

http://nwn2forums.bioware.com/forums...rum=100&sp=120

Read it and weep. The last reply, at the time of this posting, is the relevant one.

Tch. They got *beeped* over by Atari.


Och, Atari, the beast that has been around for longer than most in this industry, is ■■■■■■■ up royally tyring to pump this game out fast just to make some quick green. It won't go as well as it would if it had full support.


That said... it's the fact that the game will be unsupported that will hurt more than anything else. Downloading walkmeshes I can handle, I have a connection that can shift that much data in a reasonable amount of time. Dropped content due to being rushed I can handle. The possibility of having about 1 month... just 1 month of bugfixes and after that anything goes?

That'll kill it faster than any other problem it can face. NwN was a buggy as hell game when it started as evinced by the massive number of patches. IF this game goes unsupported, THAT is the death-knell.


And as always... be waiting for it to flop or not. One of the best PvP servers in NwN is likely to make the switch unless it flops horribly, and I don't want to miss out. If it does flop horribly.... I'll badger the hell out of the DMs for a level 1-20 server.

[ 09-26-2006, 06:48 PM: Message edited by: T-D-C ]

<font color=skyblue>I have no reason to buy this game. I see nothing worth the money. I'll let this gaming community change my mind if they want to, after giving it about 6 months to prove itself.</font>

With no money to do support, it's going to be an "as is" kind of game, and the way it's shaping up, "as is" is going to be not so good. I could live without a dm client, if I had to. My "partner in crime" and I have already developed a way to get around that. But if the game is buggy, and OE can't afford to fix it, then it's going to fall to the community, and hey, that's all good, but it shouldn't have to be that way. A little over a month to see what kind of crap they lay on us, and if I could, I'd be right there with ya' Larry...but it's hard to write dialog, and plot lines w/out the game to test them in, and that's going to be part of my "job" with NWN2. Hell, it's part of my "job" now in 1.

Hmmm I was getting excited about this thinking that the community was winning the fight. Now I'm more and more confident in my Purchase of Guildwars Nightfall Collectors edition over NWN2 Collectors edition.

You guys are talking about this post?

Yeah, I'm not surprised, Atari didn't want to found a patch for Return to Temple of Elemental Evil either, they only did so when they realised fans were making an unofficial one. I guess they thought it made them look bad or something.

[ 09-11-2006, 12:02 PM: Message edited by: Luvian ]

Yup thats the one alright.

See? NWN2 is going to suck so bad, it'll actually create more business for NWN1! [img]smile.gif[/img]

The player models in NWN2 look like lame ass Poser 2 models. Stupid, and odd looking.

I will stick with NWN1 thank you. [img]smile.gif[/img] I WILL try out NWN2--but only after ALL reviews come out. I promise you nearly all reviews will tank this beast.

This is what's included in the Limited edition:

* Limited Edition Content:
- A powerful new feat called Blessed of Waukeen, which will generate +1 bonus to all saving throws,
- Two special items
- Access to a unique weapon
- A magical golden aura which lights above your character
- Cloth map showing in-game locations
- Book of art, depicting characters and scenes from the game
- Two silver antique rings: Good & Evil

Exactly what forum is this quote from, i.e., name of post and exact forum? Thanks.

It's not from a forum but from the Electronic Boutique on-line store.

here's the link:

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=646631


If you want to post the info on the NWN2 forums and have it verified, be my guest. If you hear something DIFFERENT please let us know. [img]smile.gif[/img]

It was also listed HERE:

http://nwn2forums.bioware.com/forums...96639&forum=95

and that post refers you to THIS site:

http://www.nwn2wiki.org/Limited_edition

[ 09-11-2006, 03:07 PM: Message edited by: Micah Foehammer ]

If people expect this to be NWN, they will be sorely disappointed...it's not.

Keep and open mind and accept the game for what it is and not what it isn't. Unfortunately it seems this game is already doomed and it's not even been released. :(

You are absolutely correct. It's supposed to be a sequel to Neverwinter Nights, and I'm not thinking that expecting it to have at least the base stuff that was included in the original is asking all that much. It's hard to be a sequel to something, if it's less that what was originally released.

In support of this, was BG 2 somehow less than BG? Did Throne of Bhaal take away from either? Maybe ToB isn't fair to add, since it was basically like TotSC, and an add on, but the point is still valid. The DM Client, and online multiplayer were the main drives behind Neverwinter Nights, with the exception of Hordes. I've been following this pretty close, and while they may be close to ironing out the problems, it's supposed to go Gold in a week? They will no longer have funding for support? You're correct. I believe that it's going to be substantially less than what it could be, and less than what Neverwinter Nights has become.

Come on fellas, be positive. :D I'm actually looking forward to this game. I reckon it'll be good. Given how PC games can get made or broken by word of mouth, it's in their interest to not ship a game that's TOEEesque. Remember the furore about LucasArts and KOTOR2? That kind of negativity from the early adopters kind of killed the game off. Atari and Obsidian won't make the same mistakes again.

Dan, you're not too enthusiastic about things, are you. :D

I never put it past Atari to make the same mistakes twice, or thrice. Not much of a fan of the company at this point.

You are absolutely correct. It's supposed to be a sequel to Neverwinter Nights, and I'm not thinking that expecting it to have at least the base stuff that was included in the original is asking all that much. It's hard to be a sequel to something, if it's less that what was originally released.

In support of this, was BG 2 somehow less than BG? Did Throne of Bhaal take away from either? Maybe ToB isn't fair to add, since it was basically like TotSC, and an add on, but the point is still valid. The DM Client, and online multiplayer were the main drives behind Neverwinter Nights, with the exception of Hordes. I've been following this pretty close, and while they may be close to ironing out the problems, it's supposed to go Gold in a week? They will no longer have funding for support? You're correct. I believe that it's going to be substantially less than what it could be, and less than what Neverwinter Nights has become. </font>[/QUOTE]I think the whole sequel debate has been flogged to death (a few times) in GD. [img]smile.gif[/img]

It's pretty clear at this point that it's not going to be the sequel everyone wants, i.e. multiplayer. It's a disappointment, but it is what it is.

I for one am looking forward to NWN 2, fully realizing that it is not going to be the equivalent of NWN. Baring a Pool of Radiance (UbiSoft version) fiasco, I'll check out the reviews, make an informed decision and buy it for what it is...a single player game.

I don't care how much you dislike the game.

I don't care how much the game is probably going to suck.


That is complete BS. You know it. I know it. There is not a PC game ON THIS PLANET whose models are that fugly.

You are absolutely correct. It's supposed to be a sequel to Neverwinter Nights, and I'm not thinking that expecting it to have at least the base stuff that was included in the original is asking all that much. It's hard to be a sequel to something, if it's less that what was originally released.

In support of this, was BG 2 somehow less than BG? Did Throne of Bhaal take away from either? Maybe ToB isn't fair to add, since it was basically like TotSC, and an add on, but the point is still valid. The DM Client, and online multiplayer were the main drives behind Neverwinter Nights, with the exception of Hordes. I've been following this pretty close, and while they may be close to ironing out the problems, it's supposed to go Gold in a week? They will no longer have funding for support? You're correct. I believe that it's going to be substantially less than what it could be, and less than what Neverwinter Nights has become. </font>[/QUOTE]I think the whole sequel debate has been flogged to death (a few times) in GD. [img]smile.gif[/img]

It's pretty clear at this point that it's not going to be the sequel everyone wants, i.e. multiplayer. It's a disappointment, but it is what it is.

I for one am looking forward to NWN 2, fully realizing that it is not going to be the equivalent of NWN. Baring a Pool of Radiance (UbiSoft version) fiasco, I'll check out the reviews, make an informed decision and buy it for what it is...a single player game. </font>[/QUOTE]It's looking like, unless they release an almost perfect Single Player campaign, it's not going to be the game anyone was looking for. I'm in the wait for the actual player reviews column, but the news is looking worse and worse all the time, and I've been waiting for this, for multiplay, for a long time. It's going to be whatever it is, I just hope it doesn't fall flat on it's face right out of the gate, which is possible, I suppose. If nothing else, if it does bite the big one, it will make a nice unopened box for my game collection, once I can get it out of the bargain bin at EB Games...

After KOTORII I fully trust them to make a decent RPG with a good storyline.

That's what was lacking in NWN anyway.

Shouldn't the above post have /sarcasm tags.

IMO They bombed KOTOR II with its incomplete storyline and many game breaking bugs.