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Hawkins 04-22-2004 03:09 AM

Firt part has to do with the game cheats. When I get into the game and press [Ctrl]+[Tab] nothing happens any idea why? The second part has to do with a topic I heard you guys talking about. What do the golden pantaloons and Drizzit have to do w/BGII?

Dace De'Briago 04-22-2004 04:34 AM

I thought you needed to press control and the space bar to activate cheats? I've never really been big on cheating so I'm probably wrong ;)

With regards to the pantaloons, they are one of the few items you can take through to BG2. Eventually you will be able to combine these with an item you may find in SoA and another in ToB to form a suit of magical armour.

Drizzt is a dark elf who you meet in BG1, and who also puts in an appearence in BG2.

Melusine 04-22-2004 05:30 AM

I think the spacebar combination works for BG2 only, and in BG1 you need to press Ctrl + Tab.
Maybe this is too obvious, but Hawkins, you did enter the line "Cheats=1" into the right place in your Baldur.ini file, right?

[ 04-22-2004, 05:30 AM: Message edited by: Melusine ]

Hawkins 04-22-2004 02:52 PM

I enterd Cheat=1 under game options yes. I normally dont cheat either but I am playing a game through with a friend and needless to say we are fighting over who gets the tomes. That is the only reason I am trying to use the cheat. I have beaten the game befor with out them with different charecters, but the two we are playing with now are going to be carried over to the second game. Does the fact wether or not you are nice to Drizzit or if you kill him matter in BGII? Is he the one who is about to be burned at the stake? Or is that a different char. Havent played BGII in a while.

SixOfSpades 04-22-2004 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Hawkins:
I enterd Cheat=1 under game options yes.
I can never remember the exact placement of the commands, so I go for the overkill method:
Add the lines "Cheats=1" and "Debug Mode=1" (yes, spelling is very important) under the lines "Game Options" <u>and</u> "Program Options."


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I normally dont cheat either but I am playing a game through with a friend and needless to say we are fighting over who gets the tomes.
Hmmm.....as a suggestion, why not ask an impartial arbiter (one of us, for instance) to decide who gets which Tomes? Tell us what classes your characters are, what you plan to Dual-class to and when (if applicable), and your stats at the start of the game, and we'll divvy up the Tomes for you in the most profitable way.
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Does the fact wether or not you are nice to Drizzit or if you kill him matter in BGII?
Maybe. Why don't you roleplay and see for yourself? ;)

Hawkins 04-22-2004 04:14 PM

Yes I know exatally where your comming from, and we both are planing to dual class. The problem is the stats we originally start out with are in anticipation of receving the tomes. For example , Dex at 15 /getting bonus' at 16 , Wis at 14 / getting bonus' at 15 / Cha at 12 / receving reaction bonus at 13. So on and so on. Thats why I figured we would try to take the easy way out. I know I know cheating sucks but I find this situation to be semi-acceptiable.

Illumina Drathiran'ar 04-23-2004 01:45 AM

But not really... It's common sense. You each get three tomes, and, depending on the class, you probably only *need* two each. I like Six's idea... Give us classes and maybe we can help you out.

Mellagar 04-23-2004 09:36 AM

I say fight over the tomes. The one left standing gets to have the spoils. Or do paper, scissors, rocks.

Melusine 04-23-2004 11:39 AM

Awww, let the poor blokes have those tomes already. :D

Have you tried Six's suggestions Hawkins?
If they didn't work, you could download Gatekeeper, it's a really easy to use editor for BG1 save games and characters. Using GK you could manually insert the Tomes into your character's inventory. Only if you promise these nice people that you won't use it to cheat on any of the other items, of course. ;)

Xen 04-23-2004 03:13 PM

Why don`t you two just throw a coin for the Tomes? If it tails you get it if not he gets it.

Melusine 04-23-2004 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by Xen:
Why don`t you two just throw a coin for the Tomes? If it tails you get it if not he gets it.
*sigh* Because he's already stated they don't want to share the tomes - they counted on finding them at character creation and adjusted their stats accordingly.

[ 04-23-2004, 03:20 PM: Message edited by: Melusine ]

Dron_Cah 04-23-2004 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by Hawkins:
Is he the one who is about to be burned at the stake? Or is that a different char.
No, your thinking of a different Drow. ;)

Firestormalpha 04-23-2004 11:12 PM

Not just a different Drow, but a later installment in the BG series

Melusine 04-24-2004 06:29 AM

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Originally posted by Firestormalpha:
Not just a different Drow, but a later installment in the BG series
Duh, that's what he's saying! The same person that gets burned at the stake in Baldur's Gate 2. What is it with people not reading the entire thread before posting? ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Anyway as has been said that's a different Drow.

Neomi 04-24-2004 04:06 PM

As far as the tomes go, one little stat point here or there is not going to make or break your game. Don't sweat it. Play nice and share.

Drizzt plays a minor role in BG2 and your actions in BG1 could affect the way things happen in the future.

You can meet the other drow in both BG1 and BG2, and she makes a fine companion later on, if you know what I mean...

Although the special "garments" that you can find throughout the game made a cute easter egg, the end result was never really that useful for me. Yes, it's a fine suit of armor but by the time you can assemble it, you won't really need it.

Hawkins 04-26-2004 11:05 PM

Melusine was right we wanted to find a way to get all the tomes. Each of us. And yes the drow being burned at the stake isn't Drizzt, It's some chick. However I have to strongly dissagree about the one point here or there not making a differance. What if your a dwarf and only have 18/04 str , 19 con , and an 8 for cha. Putting 1 point in str will make a diff. to your hit & damage. 1 point to con will allow him to regenerate. And 1 point to cha will change his reaction to player char. So if were both playing dwarfs????????????????????????

Illumina Drathiran'ar 04-27-2004 12:37 AM

Easy. It depends on which one is going to be the 'leader' and interact with NPCs.

Firestormalpha 04-27-2004 01:19 AM

Sorry Mel, I hadn't read your post I was responding to Dron_Cah. Not everyone has the patience to read the entire thread prior to making a post.

[ 04-27-2004, 01:20 AM: Message edited by: Firestormalpha ]

Hawkins 04-27-2004 03:59 AM

Your right Ill Drat, I'm not dissagreeing with you , Six , or Mell one bit. But the two of us plan on playing a two member party and want to play through as close to the max as possible. Part of that includes the fact if you played through the game by yourself you would get +1 to STR / DEX / CON / INT & CHA, and +3 to WIS. With the two of us both being fighters the tomes of STR / DEX / and CON are important to both of us, I myself am dual classing as a cleric and would be the leader so of course I would get the pluses from CHA and WIS. We are simply trying to save time from playing the game through more than once. I aprecieate all the help and input from everyone though! :D

Illumina Drathiran'ar 04-27-2004 11:43 AM

W-e-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l................


If you insist on CLUAing in the tomes, the most legit time to do that would be when you're in the city of Baldur's Gate itself.
If you were actually in a city like that, I would imagine you'd be able to find those kinds of items. They're not common, but they're also not unheard of. You should consider wasting several thousand GP for each tome, to make it fair.


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