After playing this game for a week... I also tend to university, and I'm a little busy there so I'm still in chapter 1... But after a week of playing this awesome game, I had been waiting to get for over a year... I have so far only find one thing that annoys me to no end... Barrels... boxes, remains, chests and all these other placeable you have to be endlessly chcking... ugh, and if I pass one by I get this nagging fear that I might be missing a grand tresure, so I go back and check the box... and find 1 goldcoin. Grrr.

Can someone tell me if it is really worth it checking them all... do you? is there ever anything good in them?

Well it depends on what location you are at. Most of the time, I get portions and scrolls and rings and money and etc. However, I get really good loot if the chest is near a boss character. But I think, it really depends on your luck what you get. It's random.

Chests are random, occasioanly theres a fixed treasure, but mostly its random. The script generates loot in the chest when its first opened, and the loot is somewhat tailored to your class and matched to your level. So a monk will find more shuriken and kamas than a mage would, and at high level youll find more neat stuff. No harm is skipping some of them, you should wind up with decent enoug gear anyway. But you might be hard pressed to afford new gear and/or potions and recall if you skip too many.

Yes it's a bit annoying with all those boxes and barrels. It would be better if they had much fewer of these in the game but with more valuable loot in them. Even if you just find a few gp it's adds up to alot of money after searching 1000+ barrels. :D

As 9-1-6 posted the best treasure are found in chests near bosses or other difficult enemies so you don't really have search them all if you don't feel like. Just be aware that a chest near a boss isn't a guarantee that the loot will be good. I've found plenty of more or less worthless crap in those kind of chests which on top of that had a trap that almost killed you on it. Life can be so hard sometimes.

You can of course save before opening one of those chests and if you don't like what you've found: Reload. This only works for random treasure chests.

[ 09-18-2003, 12:04 PM: Message edited by: Stratos ]

If you don't open all containers you will miss some quests items.

LOL, I opened a barrel in the City Core and found a Sash of Shimmering. But, if you reload often enough, it might get better.

This is anoying the crap out of me too. How can I roleplay a paladin while breaking in to chests and opening barrels every second? :(

I guess it might be good for a bard/ theif character though.

This is anoying the crap out of me too. How can I roleplay a paladin while breaking in to chests and opening barrels every second? :(

I guess it might be good for a bard/ theif character though. </font>[/QUOTE]You have divine autority to defeat evil in all it's form. This give you the right to investigate for evil everywhere, including in locked chests. It also give you the right to confiscate anything for your cause. ;)

[ 09-19-2003, 12:48 AM: Message edited by: Luvian ]

I played a thief. I think I made more cash selling the recovered traps than from the contents - except the +5 bracers of dexterity that I picked up in an ordianary chest, nowhere special, were pretty useful.

I'd say that about 1 chest in a hundred is worth opening. Maybe, when you level up, since it is level related, you should do the reload/reopen thing on the first 10 chests, until you're happy you've got most of what's on offer, and then forget the rest.

You have divine autority to defeat evil in all it's form. This give you the right to investigate for evil everywhere, including in locked chests. It also give you the right to confiscate anything for your cause. ;) [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]LOL :D would this stand up in a court of law? [img]tongue.gif[/img] "but your honour, Luvian said I could, right here on this permission slip" [img]graemlins/laugh2.gif[/img]

Can i ask something here?? Does adjusting the difficulty level provide more chances of getting better equipment or its equally the same on any level setting?

AFAIK it is equal.

What I do if I don't need the cash...

If you come across a difficult opponent (ex. chp. 1: gang leader, Dire Bloated Spider, lieutenant, boss, etc.) then save before opening the chests near where you encountered them. These are the GOOD variable chests (I think I counted at least 6 in the Docks district alone). Then open and save (if you get something interesting) and reload the prior game again looking for something else in that chest. You can often run up 5 saved games worth of stuff and then select which one of those 5 appeals to you the most and continue on.

Make sure you have on rings of insight and if possible those bard rapiers that give a bonus to lore which if maxed (two rings two rapiers) gives a total of 18 in lore which will let you identify anything that costs 30k or less. The very first two good chests I look through I'm specifically looking for those rapiers, the rings of insight I purchase from the merchants (in the Docks district and the one in the Core at the Trade of Blades). This meathod allows you not to have to put points in lore skill, (for anything else use lore potions).

Hold off until you hit level 9 for chp. 1 (b4 opening anything) if possible (b4 Aribeth takes you to the ceremony) - this will give you better treasure in those good chests. (I think the significant chest levels are 9,12,and 15 for increasingly better stuff.)

Typically the good chests are those large trapezoidal shaped chests (but not always).

On occasion you will miss out on a few uniqe items with this tech. - particularly those for the henchmen quests. (for those you can always cheat by doing a search here to find out where the items are located.)

Virtually everything else you can pass-up.

If you want to do more searching then use the same meathod for the good chests on ALL chests that have to be unlocked.

[ 09-19-2003, 02:58 PM: Message edited by: ScottG ]

Just found a plus 3 full plate armour in a barrel outside a slum house :rolleyes:

Just a little tip when walking through a town area, rather than keep looking in previously searched barrels and chests I just smash them up. Its quicker than unlocking too! Using power attack mode helps too [img]smile.gif[/img]

This must be the #1 complaint about the OC, even people who thought the story was good complained about the illogical treasure EVERYWHERE! Fortunately the treasure is much more logical in SoU.

I don't like these "save/reload" method... well it's too close to cheating... [img]smile.gif[/img]
I just finished chp 1 and the treasures are getting a little more interesting... [img]smile.gif[/img]

They should bave had fewer but bigger treasures...

given enough time you'll think differently. (constantly geting the same garbage over and over again.)

The concept of a variable treasure for major items is flawed - they should be placed and there should be fewer items available that are non-class specific and more items that are either race or alignment restricted. Also the pricing structure in this game is screwed up. Think about it - at least 6 good chests in the docks alone! Its utterly absurd, the only reason this excessive "good chest" thing is there is to feed players who feel the need to have more stuff. Then to balance out the game's pricing structure the developers must kill the resale value of the equipment (and consequently must also make purchasing other equipment downright abusive).

So instead of thinking your cheating consider it like this: Look for one usable item out of every 15-to-20 "good" chests - the rest sell to equalize the abusive pricing structure. Don't think your getting the item your looking for to early either. With the exception of the cutting star thing, treasure is tied to character level and chapter - you can't get it to early. (For instance I'm not using the cutting stars for game play - that would be cheating, instead I'm simply doing it to run up enough cash for SOU which is as bad or worse on its pricing structure.)

(Why is SOU as bad or worse for its pricing structure? Like Chewie mentioned, SOU is FAR more reasonable with treasure chests and drops, BUT the ONLY thing the developers did for the pricing structure to "try" and balance things out is create a new skill set "apraise". Unfortunelty however it isn't enough to make up for the lack of excessive good chests. The last 25% of SOU however goes way overboard with good chests again and pricing structure becomes more balanced.)

A few random *happinings* would help even the money/ goods structure too. How about random sword breaking (bg1) or damage to your suit of armour ect? A kidnapp victim that WILL die if a ransom is not paid ect. Maybe these could be incorparated into a mod someway. [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img]

When I first played this game, before it decided my computer wasnt good enough to play it, I found there was no problem with this as I was Barbarian and decided he was crazy and liked hitting boxes...much more fun than the Paladin I tried who took several hits to break a chest...Woo hoo one hit :D