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DarkAngel 01-10-2003 09:34 AM

are monks good? im gonna start with one. ive got a palidin at the mo.

Kakero 01-11-2003 10:56 PM

monk is good , I find that by combining your monk with another henchman that does melee damage work better as both of you will be kicking everyone butt ( well almost everyone that is ).

ps, if you found some item that can give haste. make sure you get that item.

arion windrider 01-11-2003 11:05 PM

let the monk go unarm for max dam.. with all the feats they will kick butt unarmed...

homer 01-12-2003 03:02 AM

The character I am currently using is a 14 level monk. I have tried a few other character classes and found that this one has been the most to my liking. I do not use a henchman; I do not like the way the computer controls them. As such, the monk is a character that is able to get by without a companion. I have run across a few battles where I found that retreat was the only option, but for the most part this is a good character class. Of course, that is just my opinion.

I agree with the others about using unarmed attacks. I have never used a weapon, except on chests.

Runelord 01-17-2003 04:40 PM

Monks are really weak at low level, but at lvl 20 they can be insane

mine, 56 ac
duelwielding kamas, and hasted with flurry of blows gives me 9 attacks per round [img]smile.gif[/img]

the sauceman 01-17-2003 05:24 PM

Welcome Runelord!!!
:D :D :D

Ive got a lvl 5 monk, she is great fun!

[ 01-17-2003, 05:24 PM: Message edited by: the sauceman ]

Rokenn 01-17-2003 05:42 PM

Monks are way overpowered.

There is one 'quest' where to kill the large golum creatres you have to find the wizard controlling it and slay him. The golum's are supposed to be indestructable, but my monk was able to kill them in a veeeeeery long battle.

arion windrider 01-18-2003 07:51 PM

is worth it to use two kamas?? or better just to use hands???

Gabrielles blades 01-18-2003 08:33 PM

many say go unarmed

Grungi 01-20-2003 07:50 AM

erm rokenn those golems are indestructible? even cheating you shouldnt be able to take them out, even hitting them with 1000 damage a time, how did you manage to kill them???

homer 01-20-2003 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by Grungi:
erm rokenn those golems are indestructible? even cheating you shouldnt be able to take them out, even hitting them with 1000 damage a time, how did you manage to kill them???
I am curious about this myself. I was using a monk when I encountered these golems. I found that when I hit them it appeared as if I was doing damage, however, his status remained unharmed. I did this for a while with no visible result; I had to find and kill the wizards first.

Legolas 01-20-2003 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by arion windrider:
is worth it to use two kamas?? or better just to use hands???
Monks equipped with kamas count as fighting unarmed. Which means you'll get the benefits of extra damage and enchantments, but not the penalties a monk would usually recieve for fighting with a weapon. Although fighting with just two hands would be more in character for some monks depending on your 'background'.

capnaugie 01-20-2003 05:49 PM

Monks Rule. I finished with a monk. I usually had a henchman. I used tommy the rouge for his find/remove trap ability and open locks. He isn't too bad in combat either.

arion windrider 01-20-2003 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by capnaugie:
Monks Rule. I finished with a monk. I usually had a henchman. I used tommy the rouge for his find/remove trap ability and open locks. He isn't too bad in combat either.
welcome to the forum capnaugie, monks are pretty cool in combat... i just get tied up with a wizard to play other characters... legolas, kamas are pretty cool ;)

homer 01-20-2003 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Legolas:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by arion windrider:
is worth it to use two kamas?? or better just to use hands???

Monks equipped with kamas count as fighting unarmed. Which means you'll get the benefits of extra damage and enchantments, but not the penalties a monk would usually recieve for fighting with a weapon. Although fighting with just two hands would be more in character for some monks depending on your 'background'.</font>[/QUOTE]I am not sure what the damage range for the kama weapons is, however, by 15 level unarmed the monk dose 1-20 damage.

Rokenn 01-21-2003 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by homer:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Grungi:
erm rokenn those golems are indestructible? even cheating you shouldnt be able to take them out, even hitting them with 1000 damage a time, how did you manage to kill them???

I am curious about this myself. I was using a monk when I encountered these golems. I found that when I hit them it appeared as if I was doing damage, however, his status remained unharmed. I did this for a while with no visible result; I had to find and kill the wizards first.</font>[/QUOTE]They are pretty much immune to everything, except the elemental damage from the various monk guantlets. It took a very long time since I was only doing a couple of damage a hit. This was a while ago, so it may have been fixed in the latest patch. I completed the game just after the first patch came out.

TheGrandSlayer 01-21-2003 07:13 PM

With high level monks in a battle its *smack* *smack* monk killed the dude.

Gabrielles blades 01-21-2003 07:55 PM

Welp, i retried as a monk again...
tip: do not be a small race, they have a major disadv as a small race
that was my problem the first time i tried it, she couldnt kick down any doors or open any boxes because of her weak attacks, 2nd time around i went dwarven and i gota say 20th level monk is *insane* shes like 3 times as powerful as my first char which was a rogue; probably twice as powerful as the fighter i made once.

I kinda got sick of her after a few mods, her being practicaly unkillable made the game kinda boring.

Course now i remade a new rogue...and i have trouble killing just about everything *bleeds all over the place* mostly because of the incredably large number of backstab/critical immune mobs, as a rogue that is my main source of damage; thats part of why monks are so powerful - they do rogue type damage that isnt formatted to be a critical or sneak attack so it passes to just about anything.

And hrm...i experimented a little...and it seems that if i wanted to i could level up a monk to 19th and then have rogue as my 20th; saving up all of my skill points along the way and simply train all of the rogue abilities at the end; this would make a monk who still kicks butt (wont have the 20/+1 reduction that a 20th monk would have) and be able to pick any lock/disarm any trap etc etc that a rogue would be capable of....when i think about that...its kinda lame to be able to do that really.

Shadowheart 01-21-2003 08:10 PM

Off topic I know but... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Im not sure about NWN Monks, but in 3rd edition ADND, at level 20, Monks are just fun to play. 20/+1 Dam Reduct, Tongue of the Sun and Moon allows them to speak to every living creature, you can fall very long distances and not take much damage at all, and of course a monks's dodge save takes off all damage, rather than half, monks WIS mod adds to overall AC, man, they're great ^_^


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