Ok, I hate this skill. Is it possible to be able to prevent pickpocketing? I can detect it, but I wondered if I could prevent it all together?

Kill whoever's pickpocketing you? :D

I don't know, actually.

The problem is, that the person pickpocketing me, have Immunitys to everything, stupid cheaters.

Btw, thanks for dropping by to my mod. Really appreciated it. All I need now is Ziroc to join it and rate it.

Your mod was very well-done, mate - lots of atmosphere and flavour. To have done it in a couple of weeks is very impressive. I'll definitely be paying it another visit in the future. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

Thanx Mem. Btw, It will definitely be up same time every week. About 5:00pm or whatever for you.

A sword works fine for me if we're dealing with a RPGer who likes to play within the specs and is a thief.

But if it's a bonafide cheater, I recommend a cheater character right back at him. Make yourself immune to everything. Cheat your character to max stats. Make a "plot" item that does damages like +500 flame/cold/sonic/electrical and is a +100 weapon that paralyzes with no save.

[ 09-07-2002, 08:09 AM: Message edited by: DraconisRex ]

[quote]Originally posted by DraconisRex:

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But if it's a bonafide cheater, I recommend a cheater character right back at him. Make yourself immune to everything. Cheat your character to max stats. Make a "plot" item that does damages like +500 flame/cold/sonic/electrical and is a +100 weapon that paralyzes with no save.

Plot items don't automatically go through ILRs now, since the 1.21 patch. Which is a good thing. [img]smile.gif[/img]

surely you can find a server who doesn't allow uber munchkins?
ooh cant wait for broadband [img]smile.gif[/img]
<s>Felix</s>

You know I don't understand all the fuss. If your a level 20 character and all your equipment is level 20 or lower, your not cheating. Just because someone customized their equipment better than you did is not grounds for banishment. Obsidian didn’t you have immune to evokers spells?? I personally think this is all about PVP not RPG. If I am a seasoned Paladin for example and I am level 20 I should be all powerful, like wise if I am a young mage in training I shouldn’t be fragen with a level 20 fighter and if you are rp n it shouldn’t matter what your equipment has on it as long as its level 20 or lower. the whole point is to be in character. The toolset draws the line for you by adjusting the user level depending on the things you add to your equipment. and here's the real nub, unless your in a server vault game where all the equipment is strictly from the original package your screwed because as everyone learns to use the toolset more and more players are making there own items and if you don’t keep up you will die. and even on the server vault games there is custom made equipment being sold to high level characters. I don't have a problem with it, all I care about is the character legal according to the game which is to say is he/she level 20 or below. If I get my arse kicked I know they where smarter than me and I need to look at my equipments characteristics and maybe redefine what I want on them. anyway my opinion only.

To be honest, I dont have a problem with edited items, as long as people dont abuse the privalege of creating their own items. Really, I think the true NWN items (the items already in the game) are a little boring and weak. There are not many items in the game that are very good or handy. So, editing is ok, just dont go to far....

Tomas raised a good point. What server admins need to do is specify what kind of games they are running, and what the appropriate levels for them are. Most games are currently open from levels 1 - 20 on local vault, which means that a level 1 character starting out can and probably will come up against a level 20 character with all the requisite weapons. If they're really unlucky they will come up against a pathetic griefer (a PKer who preys on those weaker than himself) and these guys are what give all PvPers a bad name.

Having said that, Tomas - you're talking about high-level PvP/RPGing where your local vault character is customized to the max. In these types of games they shouldn't really be allowing anyone less then level 18 or so - because then the scenario Draconis talks about begins to eventuate.

This happened to me when I played Z's Undermountain mod with a level 20 character - there's no PvP, but the other guys in my group ranged from levels 4 to 15. I noticed that I was doing all the killing and so logged out and back in, using a more appropriate character.

It would be good for local vault servers to be more specific about the levels they are allowing in their games (esp. if they are not running persistent worlds but specific modules) - this would fix up these imbalances.

After having said all that I agree with the both of you. I try to avoid local serevrs that allow 1-20 lvl characters and opt more for the ones that allow 10-20 or 15-20, there's not many but there are some. as for rp (which I prefer) I really like playing with a mix of high and low level characters. for instance i will take a low level rogue say 6-10 and play with a high level ranger or fighter. I can scout out ahead and when the fighting starts allow the tanks to take over and i hide in the bushes (my rogue's a lover not a fighter) I really enjoy the imersion of this type of play which to me seems more on the realastic side of events in realtime.

The problem seems to be in where do you draw the line as Obsidion pointed out. I think alot of servers are starting to do as MEM sugested and restrict level 20 players from getting on, I've noticed that they are more and more going to level 18 or 19 instead of 20.

But I think the real way to level things out is to not allow items with Immunities, damage reduction and resistance in the game. everything else seems to be working ok. I really think those 3 things take away from the fun and tactics of the game. I am guilty of some of these things myself allow the only immunities i use are the ones that give me a chance against dragons and evil mages.

Well, when it deals with PvP, I have to agree with what you said about limiting the game to a certain area of levels. But if you don't have PvP, I don't see the harm in bringing in higher level with lower level. You allow the lower level to see how higher level fights go (thereby helping with their tactics) and you also help them to level faster. I have been in Lake Linaria with a 20 level and tried to help a 5th level character "SURVIVE" until he could handle on his own. He was very frustrated that he couldn't handle the higher level fights. I let him take a few on himself and if something happened, I was there to help him out. Some areas, I had to fend for myself, but in others, I just stayed behind and let him do the fighting. When things got bad, I was there. Just depends on how you look at it. What I really hate is when a Level 20 comes in and will hog all the action or experience for themself. Why does a 20 need to take the XP? I mean quests and not fighting here, btw. Anyways, that's another reason for the frustration factor. Besides, even though they don't have PvP on Z's server, some people can still get attacked by a character in one fashion or another. I already explained the Gate issue earlier. I'm sure there are others as well. Especially against lower level characters. Even more of a reason to band together. Some servers are limiting spells and other stuff just because of that, but then you wash down the 20th level character. What if you took forever to get that option available and you get on a server saying you can't do it anymore. Jeez. Some of the people can make it really un-fun for a lot of the people.