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Kerneth 08-05-2002 03:37 PM

Everyone knows what I'm talking about. The little tiny stuff that you run across while playing the game and think to yourself "You know, I really wish they'd done it like *this* instead of the way they did it."

Example: I wish they'd made the katana a sort of rapier/longsword cross instead of nothing but a bastard sword with a curved blade. Say, 1d8 (or 2d4) damage with the rapier crit range (18-20 x2). Also, I absolutely despite the colors chosen for some of the armor, particularly the screaming bright red leather +1 and the equally bright blue studded leathers +2. No self-respecting thief or ranger is going to be running around in colors that bright, you should have a Hide penalty just from wearing them.

What're some other minor-but-annoying details you guys wish could be changed? Or am I the only person who cares about this junk? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Morgan_Corbesant 08-05-2002 04:16 PM

the way the game says that a rapier is an ideal weapon to use in the offhand, yet it gives the same penalties as if you were wielding ANY two weapons. rapiers are light, and quick, and make excellent weapons to dual-wield with. i had a ranger in 2nd edition D&D that dual-wielded rapiers, and i got a +1 to use them because i was an elf too. my dm is cool like that.

i dont like the way the legs look on all of the characters, they seem too small to me. aside from these, i have no REAL problems.

Lady Avalon 08-05-2002 04:20 PM

I would like to see a 360 degree camera angle.

Larry_OHF 08-05-2002 04:50 PM

<font color=skyblue>They could have made better looking portraits!
Most of the pictures look horribly ugly as well as insane. </font>

Calaethis Dragonsbane 08-05-2002 04:54 PM

I wanna be able to switch to 1st person... I also wanna make a BIG change in the single player, or see one done... I'm sure u know what I mean, chap 3... *cought* *ahem* *cough* join *cough* raze *cough*.

Kaltia 08-05-2002 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by Calaethis Dragonsbane:
I wanna be able to switch to 1st person... I also wanna make a BIG change in the single player, or see one done... I'm sure u know what I mean, chap 3... *cought* *ahem* *cough* join *cough* raze *cough*.
calaethis, you are so simple to understand ;) Can i join you? BURN BABY BURN!!!!!!!!!!! What? Can I help it if there's pyromaniacy in my lineage?

Micah Foehammer 08-05-2002 05:51 PM

I would like to have seen the metamagic feats stack the way they REALLY do in 3E.

Calaethis Dragonsbane 08-05-2002 06:20 PM

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Originally posted by Kaltia:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Calaethis Dragonsbane:
I wanna be able to switch to 1st person... I also wanna make a BIG change in the single player, or see one done... I'm sure u know what I mean, chap 3... *cought* *ahem* *cough* join *cough* raze *cough*.

calaethis, you are so simple to understand ;) Can i join you? BURN BABY BURN!!!!!!!!!!! What? Can I help it if there's pyromaniacy in my lineage?</font>[/QUOTE]ack, well in elven terms, Im still a child so [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img] lol, of course you may join me, my lady, what shall we raze first? Nashers Castle? so I have a grudge against him... a BIG grudge... elves take care of each other dont cha know... ;)

Curian The Paladin 08-05-2002 06:48 PM

<font color="cyan">well IMHO, i'd like that the level of monsters or enemies that i encounter will be i guess 5 ot 10 levels higher than my character's level so there will challange and i heard that dragons are just big wing flapping insects *easy to beat* i hope nut... for i have lot of expectation regarding dragons.... that it will take me a couple of respawning or reloadingto beat it... that would be all... other than that the game's graphics is so d*mn good!!!</font> :D :D :D

[ 08-05-2002, 06:50 PM: Message edited by: Curian The Paladin ]

Tomas Darknite 08-05-2002 06:59 PM

I would like to have the option at each level up to choose atributes, skills or feats. I don't like that its done for me.

magnetism 08-05-2002 07:42 PM

Other than minsc as an NPC... Hrmmm scratches chin..
don't put treasure where it does not belong, such as a sack
of gold in a wine barrel or a scroll in the pantry..

Beef up boss treasure and cut way back on barrel here chest
their crap--It makes no sense. Make casters much harder of melee chars and melee chars much harder for casters, lets pretend a 15 lvl
sorcerer has some protection in place for god sakes.

Right click drop from inventory that does not make an droping animation that takes forever.. kinda like spitting out gum I don't make a production out of it ^_^

oldbittercraig 08-05-2002 07:49 PM

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"I would like to have the option at each level up to choose atributes, skills or feats. I don't like that its done for me. "

You *DO* have final say on what attributes you raise, skill points you spend, or feats you select.

Attalus 08-05-2002 07:49 PM

I'd like a better ending in the single player campaign. If even the abysmally lame TOB can give you three endings, why not NWN?

Aelia Jusa 08-05-2002 08:28 PM

I'd like henchmen to have better AI - I think the idea of having them almost like another person in multiplayer where you can't control what they do except very superficially have their own battle tactics is good, but when I tell Sharwyn to use ranged weapons I would have liked to specify change to melee if monsters are attacking that way, or have her change automatically. And also I'd like to be able to give them items as well.

Also I would have liked to move the camera angle a little further down.

And yes! Have big bosses have more treasure. And have more really good items to be found rather than bought. I worked out yesterday that the only things I use that I have found adventuring is my longsword, dagger and bow, and my belt. Everything else I've found is inferior to anything I can buy (eg armour etc).

Attalus 08-05-2002 08:40 PM

That is true, O goddess. ( Piestrider made me put that in ;) ). My paladin is wearing Red Dragon Scale, which I found, but that is the only thing that he carries that was not bought or had made.

AndyG 08-05-2002 08:57 PM

I'm going to follow up with Aelia's comments on henchmen.

Additional nice things for henchmen. The party has a common pool of potions. You can't use a potion off the hotbar on a henchman, so they need to be able to access my potions. Also, the option to give them some gear, like a ring of regeneration. Finally, some sort of retreat or pull back command, to get them out of harms way.

Additionally, when I play a tank character, during a long combat, my character continuously backs up, until the henchman is in range, and the boss turns on them and kills them in two or three shots. I should be able to stand ground in combat, instead of this constant dancing around thing. Sure, it looks more exciting, but they could make it exciting without being strategically stupid.

WOLFGIR 08-06-2002 03:12 AM

Well I would like a couple of changes..

1. Better portraits, better voices. They look crappy and offer a meager selection of sounds... :S

2. Better AI and/or control over henchmen.

3. Chainshirt to be light!!! grrrowl

4. I would like to have the clerics redone completely. More like the 3:ed ruleset actually, and where the Gods are presented clearer.

5. I would also like to see a way to get to use for example a way to wield the bastard sword twohanded.. (Whiney petty things but...)

6. A different way to make your characters for singleplay at least. Let us try to roll a character, or have the choice to choose between pointbuy and rolling for example. If someone know of a way to accomplish this already, please tell me!

Wurm 08-06-2002 03:45 AM

Most of these have been mentioned...

Better Portraits

Better Voices

3D female character models without beards/goatees/mustashes (right its shadows I'm seeing :rolleyes: )

1st person view (sorta like DK II )

Better control over my Henchman (OPEN THE LOCK NOW IDIOT!!)

Some way to equip my Henchman with better armour or tools

A way to drop the camera down abit so you can see further away

Being able to choose your outfit's colors like in Baldur's Gate

Make opening a trapped chest worthwhile.. :rolleyes: no more arrows

*edit* And a fix for the most annoying thing in the whole game... MORE SPEECH OPTIONS FOR THE HENCHMAN!! If Tomi says "Ah I can open that easy!" or "Its Done" one more time I may just kill him myself!

[ 08-06-2002, 03:49 AM: Message edited by: Wurm ]

Memnoch 08-06-2002 06:34 AM

Two things:

1. Easier customization with portraits, HakPaks etc. It's a nightmare trying to customize a portrait using Paintshop Pro etc. Customization is an important part in roleplaying.

2. Ability to change details like name, background story, etc after starting the game. Again, this is customization/personalization of character that adds to roleplaying. I'm sick of playing as Mak'Ralan Anasar online. ;)

Harkoliar 08-06-2002 08:42 AM

what i want is:

a CLOAK ANIMATION FOR MY CHARACTER!!!

at least you had THAT in BG! :(

Calaethis Dragonsbane 08-06-2002 09:18 AM

I also want the bow/composite longbows to be better; and to have a special sniper scope or something. u cant SEE the enemies as far as you SHOULD.

Wolven 08-06-2002 10:44 AM

All of the above plus to be able to have more than one henchman (without overrides or hacks)(for single player at least). One of the things I love about BG, BG2 and Icewind Dale is the sense of being in a party (even if you cant control them) This is totally lost in single player.

This would be a good post to link to Bioware, maybe they can take these sugestions and make Neverwinter the game it has the potentail to be.

Wurm 08-06-2002 02:38 PM

I have to agree that I miss the interparty banter from BG2, I was really looking foward to more Jan Jokes and Minsc Oaths and Love Interests being cotinued over into this game. :( Your stupid Henchman dooesn't even talk to you unless you click on something he can do or directly on him. For as long as the game took to release (ya I know about the troubles) You think there might of been more personality added to the game.

Grindar Silvermane 08-07-2002 04:46 AM

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Originally posted by Curian The Paladin:
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No reloads and only one summoned dire tiger killed. Then the ancient wyrm was ancient history ;)

Grindar Silvermane 08-07-2002 04:49 AM

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Originally posted by Tomas Darknite:
I would like to have the option at each level up to choose atributes, skills or feats. I don't like that its done for me.
I think you shouldn't use the "recommended" button and you can choose yourself

Arnabas 08-07-2002 01:07 PM

1. Immortal characters... If you die, well, hey, just respawn at the temple.
2. I have yet to see a breath weapon from a dragon. It's like a wizard who won't use spells...
3. The "Barrel o' Gold" that everyone else is complaining about...
4. Can't give effective orders to your henchman.
5. For a game touted as 3rd edition, why are they ignoring so much 3rd ed stuff?
6. Attrocious voice-acting
7. I agree about the range for bows (since I'm playing an archer...)

These are small things, but this game could be so awesome if the little details were taken care of. Hopefully, something will be done. I wouldn't mind seeing add-ons, like you see for The Sims. Gimme new portraits and new skins.

Also:
It would have been fun to see a cameo by Mazzy, who is now a true Paladin. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 08-07-2002, 01:09 PM: Message edited by: Arnabas ]

magnetism 08-07-2002 02:28 PM

Make dragons hard to kill like impossible without divine intervention...
at least make them harder than a orc champion with a +2 double axe.

Calaethis Dragonsbane 08-07-2002 02:34 PM

Does anyone else have "rapid shot"? It suxs! I was doin a "legolass" impression, all those stupid creatures charging me... and guess what?! 2 in 3 arrows MISSED! And I'm a lvl 20! BAH!... and what happened to my "elf" "ranger" specilition in longbow and longsword? u know, AFTER weapon focus?! how come ONLY fighters get it? its soooooo unfair! If ur an ELF AND A RANGER! you should get those FREE! at some lvl or other. [img]tongue.gif[/img] and a siperscope too ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img] . I wanna stick my arrow into the eye of a red dragon. And more n better music... after watching LOTRs NWN's music doesnt quite seem so great anymore. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

DraconisRex 08-07-2002 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by magnetism:
Other than minsc as an NPC... Hrmmm scratches chin..
don't put treasure where it does not belong, such as a sack
of gold in a wine barrel or a scroll in the pantry..

Beef up boss treasure and cut way back on barrel here chest
their crap--It makes no sense. Make casters much harder of melee chars and melee chars much harder for casters, lets pretend a 15 lvl
sorcerer has some protection in place for god sakes.

Right click drop from inventory that does not make an droping animation that takes forever.. kinda like spitting out gum I don't make a production out of it ^_^

I agree. I find the old "Hey! Look, I found a +1 axe is in the rain barrel next to..." Yet, you off (though completely annoying in the deus ex machina way it is done) arguably the toughest creature in all Faerun... ANd you get what? Practically nothing. ::sigh::


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