I talked some rat men north from Ishad N'ha at the Burned Out House.
There where some guild leader who gave me job to kill Raskalion.
Can't find Raskalion. Is he at the Stout Mines or where? I heard that you get some really good dagger from S.Mines too. It's paralyzing and poisoning and does up to 20 damage! My friend found that from Stout Mines after killing Stout King.
I killed that too but didn't found any dagger. and can't find Raskalion.
Do I have to finnish that mission before getting to assassin?
I have Assassin permit ( Got from Gorthius near Valeia )
does it be enought just gave him to rat men to get assassin?

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Once you have the "job" from to kill Raskallion you have to kill Rasakallion to complete the quest (the Assiassin scroll thing is irrelevant), then report back to the Ratkin guy and he'll give you the Assassin dagger as reward.
Then go to the Pawn shop in town and the char who has the dagger in their inventory will be offered promotion to Assassin. The downside is that if you accept then the dagger dissapears which is a shame as its about the best weapon in the game even though its 2nd weapon only.

One other thing, is that when you have the Assassin dagger you can invoke it and acquire the deathstrike skill which is very good, killing baddies with one hit.

Yes...

Raskalion is in the mines....very deep in the mines. (use your map...and alot of flags)
The Assassin's dagger is the reward you get from 'Scanthril', for killing him. If you need a walk-through....Try this... :D ...start at...#11.

And not only can you invoke the dagger to get deathstrike, if you sell it and buy it back, the deathstrike is recharged. So you can get up to level 12 deathstrike before becoming an assassin.

That is provided, of course, that you don't try to sell the dagger in the pawn shop...

[ 11-05-2002, 09:27 AM: Message edited by: Bungleau ]

I found that Raskalion thanks Packrat for walktrough!
I didn't know about Raskalion 'couse I killed Stoud King to get the Treasury Key... Now I seek out Raskalion and got two Keys!
Don't know, my friend must be wrong about, where he found that dagger and It must be Assassin Dagger...

Bungleau: ...So you can get up to level 12 deathstrike...
I presume that deathstrike is not trait like Evil Eye or Dodge etc...
It's skill? I'm right? Like sword skill, you can train it?
Well in that case I Invoke that dagger to all my warriors and as many time as my money let me do it!

It's shame to loose that nice dagger, just to become assassin...
Ain't there any way to prevent the lose of dagger? Can't I bought it back?
I read in some topic that some one had several assassin's. That means he/she had several daggers... Just want to wear that and hit some ruined creatures!

Scanthril can be so ?£$"@!# !
He gave me a mission to seek some stout, and I did. Then he said: Now you want your reward, don't you?... He continued that I can seek my reward north from
Old Burned House in the forest. Can't find anything! I have been wandering on that area for long time. Does he gave me any good artifact or does he just fool me?

1. The Assassin Dagger. You can decline the offer of becoming an Assassin. In this case, the dagger is yours - it will not be taken away but you won't be offered to become an Assassin again, too. The dagger survives Reset Adventures.
You can save the dagger if you aren't patched. Once the shopkeep begins to speak, go to your inventory and move the dagger to another (inactive) member of your party. In the other words, the same trick as the one with the genie lamp.
2. Raskallion without pain. You must know where the trolleys lead.
Left trolley: Leads (among others)
- to the control room of the first points on the right trolley.
Right trolley: It has two points. The first points divide the way between
- the way to the control room of the second points of the right trolley
- the way to the second points.
The second points divide the way between
- the way to the dragon ore
- the way to Raskallion.
When you enter Stout Mines for the first time, the points are set "to the second points" and "to the dragon ore". Therefore:
a) If you want the ore, do not touch the points. Repair the right trolley and go to the ore.
b) If you want Raskallion then
- Take the left trolley and switch the points. Now, the first points of the right trolley will send you to the control room of the second points.
- Take the right trolley and switch the points. Now the second points of the right trolley are set to Raskallion. We must switch the first points back so that we can go to the second points.
- Take the left trolley and switch the points back.
- Take the right trolley to Raskalloin.
In the other words, always keep in mind how you have set the points [img]smile.gif[/img]

Yes I turn the switches over and over again! Didn't know first what I was doing and take several time from saved game!
Then I just realised what to do ( mayby 2 litres of coffee and late gaming time 03.00 at night! helped me! )
and POW! There where Raskalion, now he's dead and I have Assassin dagger!
Just waiting to promote my samurai into assassin. Just couple of levels more...

Way to go....Olli... http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...ons/icon14.gif

That quest is very confusing....even with, the walk-through.. :D

I hate walktrought's, Prefer to solve my self...
Sometimes there's some puzzle that I can't figure out, and then I ask from forum or use some hint's and maps.
It's more enlarging experience when you just wander around and try to imagine what to do next!
Sure I use some walktroughts too... But I avoid 'em if I can [img]smile.gif[/img]

Example I just hit into Skull Castle just sailing trought the coast!
Some helps like how to create char. or modify them are extreamly important, If you like to survive from the game...

In an UNPATCHED game, it is possible to switch the Assassin's Dagger from one character to another while they are becoming an assassin and thus keep the nice dagger. It is also possible to hack the dagger as well. ;)

Treasure tends to be random in this game. In more difficult areas you tend to get better treasure, but there are only a few places where the treasure from a chest is pretty much the same from one player's game to another. You can always try saving your game before opening a chest to see if you like the treasure. If not, reload the game. Over all, I don't think it is really worth the time to do that but it is an option. If I recall correctly, Saz didn't find a Wizard's Dagger until his 4th game.

Wyv

I might try to get that dagger by that character switch... I have unpatched game...
I don't mind if I don't get that Wizard's Dagger yet...

I thougt that in next game ( when I have finished this one ) I'm starting to
catalog all computer characters ( does it say NCP? ) where they are, picture of them, spot of map, what to do/say, is there any guid mission... etc.

I just ask that, can I use screencaps from the game and map from Gaeal Serran ( that what can be found at Ironworks web page ) in my web page if I
say where I get the material? Map has signature on the left upper corner, does it be enought? Don't want to end up into court! [img]smile.gif[/img]

Before you go through all that effort, Olli, you might want to check here:

http://www.volberding.com/WHints/index.html

Xignal wrote up an excellent walkthru with lots of pictures, maps and hints.

Wyv

BTW, Olli, when Scanthril sent you "up north" to find your reward, he was being a smart-@$$ rat and sending you all the way north to the Boogre Caves. He wasn't really trying to help you with anything, least of all rewarding you.

To Bungleau:
I noticed that after I had finished B.Prison... Didn't get that he was actually sending me into prison cause I tought that reward would be found closer. So when I found Prison and looked map I didn't know that he want's me to go there. Clever fellow or he was clever... [img]smile.gif[/img]

To Wyvern:
I found that page sometime ago ( thank to forum ) and I think I just put link to Xignal's page if it's allowed... Xignal's pages are so perfect that cannot find anything to add there! So I just think if I focus on the NPC character in the game ( where to find 'em what to do and put some screen caps there too )
Also if I get some chart or tables of Traits, Spells etc. I would add them too.
But Is there some law or something that I sould been wear at? And does it be enough just to tell sources of material I use in my page?

IIRC Olli Ziroc granted permission to another member (a looong time ago) to use his maps from tgeweb. Might I suggest you pop him an email? I´m sure he has lot of maps and other stuff he´ll let you use. You can always add "Courtesy of tgeweb.com" or some such. As to trait tables Saz has them, but someone else is hosting them for him. Send him a pm and ask him about them. [img]smile.gif[/img] Ziroc and Saz are both very, very VERY nice guys so I don´t think you´ll have any problems (and none of their maps are copyrighted to them so you may wnat to check with activision as well. Ziroc and Saz can probably tell you what you need to know and do).

You can link to Xignal's site with no problem. There are so some charts/tables in the Best Tips thread which you can use as well. Just give credit to whomever wrote up the chart/tables and you should be fine. These are things anyone can figure out given the time so it's not a violation of any copyright laws.

Wyv

Thanks WillowIX and Wyvern!
I'll get back to this matter when I start new game and gather some information from early game etc.
Now it's close to switch one of my men into assassin...
Just few more levels... I'm greed you know... [img]smile.gif[/img]