I have 2 wizards with Create Portal,vanish, teleport and Call Home but cannot make the Portals work. Do you still use the control key to cast it and where do you point it. I tried it near the Dragon Spire and it still doesn't work. I want to get back to Ishad N'ha without going through the Dragonspire. I noted that you need the Will points up so could be the reason. Help please.

Always check the text box after castin create portal! If it doesn´t say "Portal Created" try again. And yes you use ctrl to cast it. Luckily you don´t need teleport to get to Ishad N´ha. Stand by the trees facing Torin on the Brimloch side. Save your game and cast vanish. That should out you on the IShad N´ha side. If it puts you completely wrong, like in the middle of some trees with no way out, reload. :D

Will and Sorcery stats both effect magic skills.

When you cast these spells...Hold down the control key and click on one of your characters. (you should see a blue targeting cursor, when you mouse over your character) Try some practice runs to test your skill and the portal...cast 'Create'....Walk afew yards (Or meters)..cast 'Teleport'...and Like Willow said The best place to set that Portal, is on the rock ledge ramp that exits Dragon Spire. Between the exit and the trees. If you jump down from that spot..(don't land on Torin)...you can walk to Ishad N'ha. When you teleport back, you walk down the ramp to Brimlock Roon.

Vanish will work but, I think it's a 1 time deal. I don't think you can use it to get back to the top of the ledge.

To operate those spells just cast them on one of your charactors with the ctrl key. Remember that call of home doesn't work inside dungeons. I keep a portal at the Brimoch gate to make it easy to return from Ishad N'ha. To get back to Ishad N'ha just climb the Dragonspire ramp and jump off when you reach the top, you come out near Torin.

Thanks Kev and Willow for the info. I created a Portal near Is'had n'ha gates and couldn't get back, thank heavens I hadn't saved it. Will experiment further with your suggestions!

From your "conch shells" post I know your going to the sunken city. I created a portal in there but teleport & vanish don't seem to work in there. At the moment I am stuck in an area with a mermaid in the exit tunnel. It is just like the toadum villager thing. I don't want to kill the mermaid to get out so I am combing every inch of the place to find another exit. If anyone knows a way out let me know.

'Vanish', 'Create Portal' and 'Teleport' spells Do work in the cooollasium. I use them all the time.

IIRC...The only spot in the collasium that you can not set a portal....is in the rotating room.
(I do remember being stuck in the floor in there once, but I don't remember how I got there.)

I created a portal in there no problems, but teleport & vanish just fizzle I think it was because I was trying to do them under water. They worked in other parts of callasium without trouble.
Yes I did have to kill the mermaid:(, but no repercussions:cool:.

Teleport always worked for me in Collasium - even under water. I haven't needed to cast Vanish there so that I don't know. Where in Collasium did the spell fizzle? And under which conditions? For example, all spells usually fizzle if you are getting "crushing damage" from some damned device (a door that cannot close or open because of you and so on).

I just went to Volberdings walkthrough site. He calls the area the first crab room. When you open the door past that room you enter another room that has a loop that goes through a room where you find a chest on top of a beam near the ceiling. I was stuck in there with a mermaid in the entry tunnel. I tried vanish & teleport several times but they fizzled. In another area laater they worked in an air pocket.

Hi everyone!
I have got the Create Portal & Teleport spells working. I made one on Valeia side of Ishad'nha gate and one near Torin. Both work well, tried one in Collosieum but couldn't get it to work. I talked to both mermaids and found saying Goodbye works well. Thanks everyone. I brought my Dwarf Paladin over from Valeia which was level 12 and was using him for a mule, but as my gnome rougue is a Vampire and a great pain, I am getting the Paladin up now. It is great getting on with the new part. When I finish this game I am going to try out all the other suggestions that people have posted over time to see how they all work. Then I will be going to Wizards 8, just waiting for a 3D acclerator card so I can play it! My computer is very slow. Have fun gaming all!

Gday Morningstar, do you really need a 3d card to play Wizardry 8. I have no video card at all just the intel chipset that came with the computer. Will I not be able to play Wizardry 8 at all, some people on this forum recommended it & it was the next game I was to buy. I can play most games OK on my computer although W&W is a bit choppy, I just live with it. I have a 566 celeron with only 64meg ram, though I will hopefully upgard to 256 soon.
I find this site very slow to load, up to 3 minutes to change screens. Broadband is not available here, I hope that Telstra will find a way to deliver it via my foxtel dish.
Does North America get broadband internet via satillite or am I just dreamin.

Hi Kev,
Yes, you need the 3D card or it will not work. My computer just kept scanning for it and would not load the game. It says on the game box that you need one. My computer is slow too, had to replace my motherboard which had a basic 3D card on, got a second hand Aopen AX59Pro CPU AMD K6-2. Gave me a little more memory but is very slow. I would check out what you have before purchasing Wizardy 8, unless like me you will have to upgrade. I never seem to be able to keep up with the technology. Oh, well!

Do you know if you can just plug in a video card instead of changing your whole motherboard.

Kev,
Depends on your system, but you probably will be able to. My motherboard needs replacing though. We (my sons & I) are looking at getting a Voodoo card which can be plugged in. When finances permit of course.

I guess I'll have to find my manual to see what I've got. I just checked the game manual for W&W, they suggest a 16MB card & they support the voodoo card you mentioned.

Kev,
Hope you can get Wizards 8 working, have heard it is a great game. It
s got fairies in it this time and looking at the manuel looks a lot like W & W but more up-to-date. There are some cheaper alternatives to Voodoo though and if you look on the internet you might find a supplier near you that could help. Especially if your system is like mine. Best luck with the search. I am signing off for now, see you all soon.

Morningstar I´d skip the Vodoo card if I were you. The vodoo is a great card but it has several compatibility issues with newer games. I´d recommend going for a Geforce2 card. They shouldn´t be that expensive anymore. They work with everything. I got wizardry8 myself and the specifications says 3D accelerator. If you want to save some money post a thread on the wiz8 board and ask if a simple 8Mb card will be enough. Those rea REALLY cheap (but not very good). :D

The teleporting problem. Perhaps, the meermaid prevented you from teleporting. If it is the case then the problem mechanism might be the same as the one of the "cannot vanish from that damned door" problem. You can check what was the problem by returning to the place where you got stuck with the mermaid and try to teleport again - but now without the meermaid [img]smile.gif[/img]

Kev wrote:
You can just change the video card, but you need to doublecheck one thing before you buy the new one: does your machine require a PCI or AGP video card?

Older motherboards don't support AGP, while both old and new MBs support PCI. However, AGP is a superior hardware solution which is replacing PCI in new machines. Check to see what yours has before buying a new one.

And one final suggestion: back up your machine before installing the new video card. A new card means new drivers, and new drivers can sometimes invalidate old drivers, which can leave you with a computer that no longer displays anything you can read... and you can't always just have Windows remove the old drivers, either. Sometimes, it lies...

Good advice everyone, my sons suggested the GForce instead of Voodoo. Thanks for the tips on the drivers too, I will remember that when I get my new card.

Bungleau, I dont think that my pc is capable of accepting any sort of video card. I've read the manual & it says the Intel 810 chipset offsets the need for any video card. I think the chipset is part of the motherboard. For all I know it may have a 3d capability that I just haven't used yet. I have posted on the Wizardry 8 forum to see if anyone there knows.
Radek, I haven't been back to Collasium yet but I will try what you said.

Of course you can plug in cards into your computer kev. There must at least be PCI slots (the same you plug in a modem, ethernet card, sound card). Just buy a pci card and you´ll be fine. As bungleau sais it´s not as good as an AGP accelerated card. Intel´s chipset usually has good support. And since your able to access the internet you must have pci slots. Most motherboards have internal graphics support. And in a way that "offsets the need for any video card". It does not mean that putting in a graphic card wouldn´t be better. It just says that you don´t need to buy one to get the computer to work lol. Not quite a lie but almost. [img]graemlins/blueblink.gif[/img] And I seriously doubt that the internal chipset has the 3D acceleration that wiz8 needs! Just my opinion though, but then I can´t live without a nice video card in my dear little comp lol. :D

Ditto what WillowIX said. "Offsets the need" means "you can use what I have". It will not be as effective as a nice vid card that you pick up at a local store, unless you're picking the card up from the discount bin where they're getting rid of old equipment at flea market prices [img]tongue.gif[/img] .

My own personal rule, BTW, is that I will not have a video card with more memory than my PC [img]smile.gif[/img] When I installed W&W (or shortly before then), I upgraded to a lot more memory. Don't know how much it's help ('cause I didn't measure before and after), but I truly enjoy it.

At today's prices, assuming your machine will handle it you should be able to get to 256MB easily.

When I install the new ram (256) I'll look for a PCI slot but my pc has the audio & video on the intel 810 chipset onboard, an ethernet 10/100 base-t adapter chipset onboard & a 56k (v90) fax/modem chipset onboard. I think all of these items are built into the motherboard.
I used dxdiag to discover that I only have 4.5MB of memory on my intel 810 but I need a minimum of 8MB to play Wizardry8. Interestingly it is capable of 3d & I am now playing W&W on d3d. It doesn't seem to make a whole lot of difference.
Radek, re the teleporting, it works without the mermaid.

[ 07-26-2002, 08:46 AM: Message edited by: kev ]

As much as I do tech stuff, I have a hard time remembering chipsets and the differences between them.

What I can tell you is that I haven't seen a motherboard in the last five years that did not have a PCI slot. Fewer have ISA slots, but every one has had a PCI slot or four.

And most ATX form factor motherboards come with a bunch of stuff on-board -- audio, video, game port, USB... the list goes on. I have yet to see a machine where you couldn't disable what was on-board and use a card for the same purpose. Given the nature of on-board stuff, though, it's probably fairly generic. You can probably get a video card for US$50-60 that will perform better than what's on-board, and if you want a real vid card, you can be lots better than the on-board stuff.

It's not that I'm against on-board components; it's that by their nature, they're a standard part of every board. Therefore, by their nature, they will not be the best possible components. They'll be the best priced components from a good supplier.

I'm glad to hear that Bungleau, I'm sure that I can find a second hand videocard somewhere but if I had needed to replace a motherboard, fax/modem etc It would have cost too much.
You told Morningstar to stay away from Voodoo, is there anything else I should look out for?

Wow, I didn't know my question would generate such good info. Thanks everyone. I have worked out the Teleporting problem, I have a Portal on the Valeia side of Ishad N'ha, one near the gates of Brimloch Roon on the Ishad N'ha side and one on the port side of Brimloch Roon. I tried putting one in Cet's Pyramid but it cancelled out the portal at the Port gate. Also I found MORE LILIES! Good HP's gained though. By putting up the game level really helped, and I found some monsters with great points such as the two headed giants! ON TO MORE PLAYING!

Morningstar...
If you have (or learn) ' Call of Home ', you don't need a portal at the Port gate of Brimloch.... http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...ons/icon31.gif


Kev....
If you bought your machine 'New', It will probably accept an AGP card.
The best way to find out ....is to open the case and look. (seeing is beleiving) If it has 3 or 4 slots/connectors (in line with covered openings in the case) and the 1 on top is different from the others ( a different color and set off to the side)....It will take an AGP graphics card. If they're all the same...it takes a PCI card.

As far as 'What you should look out for' or 'look for', that depends alot on,... How Old/New your system is, What you can use, What you want it to do, How much you can spend, What you can find...etc.
Let us know what CPU you have ( ie..PentiumIII, Celeron, ???)and whether you can use an AGP or PCI card. Then we can figure out your options from there.

I opened my pc this morning & no pci slots. The only free slot on the board was the 168 pin sdram slot. There are no blanked covers in the back of the case. The case is very small not your standard ATX tower. It is fairly modern I bought it in 2001 but I think it was manufactured on 05/11/2000, thats the date on the BIOS screen.
Pc model BKi810
Motherboard; 6A69M (This is an intel i810(E) chipset with Award BIOS v6.00, a knockoff of a pcchips board by Hsing-tech in China)
processor;socket 370 celeron 566MHz
memory;64MB sdram
os;Windows ME.
Have you guys heard of any video card that can external?

Now we're getting somewhere.
I'm pretty sure there are no 'External' video cards and if there are...they would cost a bit more.

One thing I Do know...Your system could use more RAM. Playing games on a machine that just makes the min requirements, usually means slow gameplay, choppy video and frequent crashes.
Take a look at this site... Curcial. It will help you figure out, What kind of Ram, What speed, How much you can add and Price. Then, you can shop around for better deals.

**If your system is not listed...click 'support page', under 'service and support'. Then under 'RAM support', click 'Download the Belarc Advisor'.

External video card? Nope, can't say as I've run across one of those. Can't say as I'd want to, either.

Are all the PCI slots used, or are there just no PCI slots? Certain PC manufacturers use proprietary hardware that makes it very difficult, if not impossible, to upgrade. Packard Bell was one that I ran into; there are others...

No Bungleau there are no pci slots at all.
Thanks for the tip Packrat. I can get 128MB for $40AUD or 256MB for $80AUD locally. If I get the 128 would it run in the second slot next to the 64 I already have, or would I have to ditch the 64 & put the 256 in one slot.
I think I will start putting second hand parts together & build a new computer over the next year or so. I will not make the same mistake twice & I will make sure I have an upgradable motherboard in an ATX case. W&W is on the limit of what my pc's graphics chipset will support. When W&W2 comes along I will have to have something better. I think I will do what packrat does & have 2 pc's, one for the internet. At least I wont have to push the kids around as much. [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

[ 07-30-2002, 05:08 AM: Message edited by: kev ]

Asked the hubby about your motherboard and he said: The 810 more than 815 since the latter has some slots (agp). Recommendation from him was to replace the entire thing, 850 I think it was, but don´t listen to him too much lol. The 850 then supports a number of things that I have no clue about, Dual channel, netburst processor(?). But he´s got a monster on his desk so (P4 2,53GHz,1,5Gb RAM, CDRW, DVDRW and some 300Gb harddrive). I don´t think you need that to play W&W though lol. I doubt that he needs all that for his work, especially his latest "purchase" SB Extigy when he already has the audigy card... :rolleyes: Then to graphics cards where he strongly recommends titanum 4600 or something (no idea) otherwise a Geforce. Also if you build it yourself try to get the external cards from the same manufacturer (ie Creative or something) again no explanation. Maybe it´s time I talked some sense into him about comps LOL!

[ 07-30-2002, 05:34 AM: Message edited by: WillowIX ]

SDRAM is very friendly. You can mix module sizes. My prefrence is to put the larger mod in the #1 slot. ( I don't really know if it makes a difference)

Upgrading to 192MB, will definitely make a noticable difference in system preformance.. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...ons/icon14.gif .. The difference bewteen 192 and 320, (adding 256) would be much less.

As for, building another machine.....Save your money for now. There are some big changes in the works and it should mean lower prices for the current 'Bleeding Edge' hardware.

[ 07-30-2002, 06:01 AM: Message edited by: Packrat ]

Thanks for your help crew. After all the research I have done in the last week I now know more about computers thaen I thought I would have to.
If Morningstar hadn't given me a shakeup I would still be living in ignorant bliss.

Well crew, I have decided to get a G-Force card and yes it plugs into my computer! I had a Packard Bell and was ripped off by the people who sold it to me and also another company I took it to to fix it! I used up all the guarantee on it taking it back and forth from day 1 to get it fixed. I have learned the hard way, if you don't know much about the workings people rip you off! I have learnt quite a lot since then, and should have got Packard Bell to replace it with another, but did not know that at the time. Well when it gets it's upgrades it will be better than new. My sons have been doing courses and know a lot about the computers now and are going to upgrade it for me. I am looking forward to that day!

Sorry for the experiences you've had, morningstar. My own take on it is that the people who want my business back again won't rip me off (or try to). The only ones who will do that are people who don't care if they ever see you again.

That's why I've got a locally-owned computer store around here that I go to for most of my real needs. I'll use the large chains for specially-priced items, but when it's time for a new machine, I head to the little guys. It matters to them whether I come back or not...

One of the other important things that I do is to use a variety of people who know more than me as a sounding board. If someone's offering me something that doesn't smell quite right (although it may not smell bad), I'll run it by them for their opinions. That way, I go into it with both eyes open. I use a professional email list for that; you might run some such questions through here, or through other avenues (such as asking your sons to verify things).

Ah, well. While the pain of encounters with such vipers is annoying, they're the ones who will carry it to their karmic graves.