O.k i confess, i never played wizards and warriors but since so many people post here it must be pretty good.
Whats it like and more importantly should i buy it?

[This message has been edited by Dreamer128 (edited 05-06-2001).]

Dreamer128, I love the game myself! I know I'm biased towards 1st person games, though. If you're a 3rd-person (Infinity Engine type) gamer then it may be a bit of a challenge.

Our Wyvern is probably hunting for a "buy this game" post now! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

-Sazerac

From what i´ve seen of it its more like Lands of Lore then Baldurs Gate, can you tell me a bit about the game?

Okay, it's basically a first-person game (meaning you're in the game rather than watching it from overhead). You can create up to 6 characters. You start out as Warrior, Wizard, Thief, and/or Priests, and then you upgrade as you go along..to Barbarian, Bard, Monk, Ninja, Ranger, Samurai, Warlock, or to even more elite roles such as Assassin, Valkyrie, and Zenmaster.

There's 10 large dungeons, 3 huge overland map regions, three cities, five guilds (Warrior, Priest, Wizard, Thief, and Bushi Dojo). Your quest is to save the world from an evil undead pharaoh that has arisen far to the west. You have to obtain a special sword to do this (which you do about 2/3 of the way through the game).

There's all sorts of side quests (3 from each guild, generally, plus 3 from each city's town hall), loads of NPC's, and a lot of items to find. There's some bugs, but most of them work for the player rather than against. A couple of design issues they could have gotten better, including leveling up, climbing ladders, and it takes a bit getting used to the interface, but the learning curve is fairly easy.

Hope this helps!

-Sazerac

Ah...I see Wyvern has bumped up some threads that may help out a bit! Peruse them and see what you think! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

-Saz

Welcome to the board Dreamer128!!!

I've bumped up a couple of threads on this topic - hope they will help.
W&W is one of the very best CRPGs I've played in many years! (and this board is a lot of FUN to boot!) http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

Wyv

Thanks alot guys, you convinced me.
That character evolving sounds a bit like planescape torment and although the storie sounds a bit cheap i think i'll really enjoy it.
B.t.w will there be any NPC dialog between you're party members?

Dreamer -

Your own characters do not talk to one another as they do in BG. If you like that sort of thing, you are free to imagine what they would be saying and if you REALLY like that sort of thing, you should start searching this board for some of the funny threads in which other posters have shared their characters' dialog with the rest of us! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

Wyv

Thanks alot.
I wont look at other threads though, i'd hate to be spoiled.
I prefer to experience everything myself.
I only joined the Bg2 forum after i'd finished the game so I could help others.
You'll probably see me here again in the future.

Dreamer128

Dreamer - the threads I meant probably wouldn't spoil you at all - they're just funny - like the "giggling so hard" thread! When I have a little more time, I'll look for a couple of them (making certain that you won't get spoiled) and bump them up for you! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

Wyv

Oh! The story is cheap, believe me! Do not expect a PsT storyline here (and thank the gods on that, considering what I've heard about the volumes of text you have to read in THAT particular game...it makes you appreciate Sabastio). The main fun of the game is dungeon exploration, character development, and NPC interaction. The main storyline keeps you moving along, but don't expect anything spectacular. A lot of people have and have been disappointed at the end. Sad, because in concentrating on that, they missed the main fun parts of the game.

Oh, well...

-Sazerac

There is a huge amount of text in PsC indeed.
I hated it at first but after a while, you actually start to enjoy it.
You also get the best party ever in an RPG. (that i know of)
So if you have never played the game i suggest you give it a try.
Thanks for your help Sazerac i will look out for the topics you mentioned.

[This message has been edited by Dreamer128 (edited 05-07-2001).]

I have heard several people praising PS:T for the reasons you list, Dreamer128, and I've thought about playing it myself. However, given that BG2 just trashed my system so badly that in the last week I've had to A) upgrade to Windows Me, B) buy a new video card, C) buy a new sound board, and D) am now looking at having to get a new power supply (to have enough energy for all the new components!), you'll understand why I'm a little gun-shy on any new games at the moment. Maybe I'll get PS:T at a later date, when I'm assured my system is stable again.

Thanks for the recommendation, though! I will consider it.

-Sazerac

Just like to ring in as a newbie playing W&W. It is closest to a Might and Magic kind of thing and a lot of fun, once you get used to it. It did take me while (I'm used to BGII's interface) but once you get the hang of it and the fighting, it gets to be quite enjoyable. Saz, sorry BGII fried your system. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif

BK

BK, I know! Well, I just found out that my power supply is only 160 Watts! I think that had a large part to do with it. Heaven knows why they put such a crappy one in there for me. I'm going to try out a 250 W supply today and see if that helps the situation any. It's a p**ser when a game makes you have to practically upgrade all your hardware...and I thought I had a pretty good system all the way around!

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Saz!

Funny. When I first started playing the game, I thought W&W trashed my harddrive, because of all the troubles everyone was having with the game when it first came out. Well, after bringing the drive to work and testing it out, I found that the drive had major hardware problems and I had it replaced by the manufacturer. Sometimes bad parts lead us to blame the software that was last installed instead of the hardware it was installed on.

Just thought I'd give you my experience in a similar situation.

Geez, a 160w powersupply is pretty wimpy.

Inadequate or failing powersupplies can cause problems with corruption on your harddrive. I think it is due to the hardrive spinning at different speeds while writing and then not being able to read the data when the speed has changed (if that makes any sense).

Mark

Well, as it exists, Mark, the 250 W drive I took home from work (kindly lent to me to try it out; I have the best workplace!) didn't fit. So I've pretty well consigned myself to just using this computer and I've started saving up money to get a new one...custom built. Should have enough by July to do this. I'm never buying a package model again. Cheapos!

Well, I think I've gotten WAAAAY off topic of this thread. My computer is working again, thank heavens, and as long as I have Internet and can play W&W and have Microsoft Office (note the order of importance to me, hehe!) I'm just fine for now.

Thanks,

-Sazerac