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D*Ranged 11-19-2002 04:19 PM

I'm polling here :D ...

I'll start with myself. :D
Most underrated race: Gnomes
Most underrated class: F/M/C

Angelousss 11-19-2002 04:40 PM

i think your proably right about gnomes
f/m/c is better if your not playing w/ a full party because your xp is being split 3 ways meaning you level very slowly

ranger/cleric I think

[ 11-19-2002, 04:47 PM: Message edited by: Angelousss ]

pritchke 11-19-2002 04:41 PM

Most underrated race: Gnomes - People are always overlooking the smaller races potential, but I love them.
Most underrated class: Bards - Oh wait they are underrated for a reson.
I could say F/M/C since I would never think about using one. Are they any good?

khazadman 11-19-2002 04:44 PM

yep! Gnomes are underestimated. And bards as well.

SixOfSpades 11-19-2002 06:34 PM

Yeah, I'll echo Gnomes as the most underestimated race. Sure, some people might have legitimate gripes about their being forced to be Illusionists, and not being able to Dual, but most of the Gnomes' negative PR is about their size and their bearded ladies. But come to grips with this: A pure Gnomish Fighter will beat a pure Human Fighter any day: Better Saving Throws.

For most underrated class, I'd have to say Cleric/Thief. It's actually a very valid combo, it's just that the circumstances have conspired against it. Due to the "shortage" of bottom-row buttons, Cleric/Thieves can only have 1 Quick Weapon, and their Thieving skills are hidden behind their Special Abilities button. (Of course, I'll bet you use those "Talk" and "Guard" buttons all the time, don't you?) And they got screwed for weapons as well; the only 1-handed weapon they can Backstab with is the Club, and there are NO enchanted Clubs in BG1; there's one in ToSC, but you have to beat the most annoying quest in the game in order to get it. So the Cleric/Thief is actually a decent class, it just wasn't taken into consideration that much when designing the game.

Personally, I think Druids, Bards, and F/C/Ms all have bad reputations for a reason. (Bards and Druids get better in BG2, though.)

Grungi 11-20-2002 08:16 AM

whats wrong with druids? nice monster summoning and heals enough to make me happy plus they get to wear reasonable armour though i think thats a bug and can wield good weapons too.

I wish my name was Baggins 11-20-2002 09:02 AM

With the exception of mages...specifically illusionists....I have never heard of anyone playing a gnome here on the boards.

As far as class goes...I know that it is a straight up well known class...but you never really hear people bragging about the "Kickin Cleric" that they are winning with. The near total lack of blunt weapons that are worth a rats hind parts may be a reason for this but at the same time recent gallup polls show that Cleric use is at an all time low.

Grungi 11-20-2002 09:34 AM

i use branwen and she owns , big hps, hits hard hits fast and has low ac plus casts all sorts of nifty spells, has big ole heals and monster summonings too, nowt wrong with this girl (apart from the annoying voice)

Sorcerer Alex 11-20-2002 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by Grungi:
i use branwen and she owns , big hps, hits hard
I seriously read this as 'she owns big hips and hard tits'- I really should get more sleep.

purre 11-20-2002 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by Arledrian:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Grungi:
i use branwen and she owns , big hps, hits hard

I seriously read this as 'she owns big hips and hard tits'- I really should get more sleep.</font>[/QUOTE]OMG!!! That deserves LOL!!!
Maybe you should sleep just a littlebit more :D

I wish my name was Baggins 11-20-2002 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Arledrian:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Grungi:
i use branwen and she owns , big hps, hits hard

I seriously read this as 'she owns big hips and hard tits'- I really should get more sleep.</font>[/QUOTE]HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

pritchke 11-20-2002 02:09 PM

The most underrated race is the Kobolds. You can't even chose it due to the large conspiracy against Kobolds (due to K.A.K. influence). Imagine if Gorion adopted a Kobold though that special agency and that was how the game started, would it not be possible that the Lord of Murder could have spawned some Kobold offspring. I mean Kobolds are the cutest, niceest race in the game. A Kobald would never shoot a fire arrow at your back to smite you. Only one of the evil races would do that so it only makes it fitting that the nice Kobold with that high charisma should start off the game as the spawn of some evil Lord.

[ 11-20-2002, 02:22 PM: Message edited by: pritchke ]

Grungi 11-21-2002 05:49 AM

well branwen probably does have big tits n hips but that wasnt the message i was trying to convey [img]tongue.gif[/img]

go on go on may as well ask now, whose made the naked character mod for bg, i bet some nerd out there has [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Myrddin L'argenton 11-21-2002 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pritchke:
The most underrated race is the Kobolds. You can't even chose it due to the large conspiracy against Kobolds (due to K.A.K. influence). Imagine if Gorion adopted a Kobold though that special agency and that was how the game started, would it not be possible that the Lord of Murder could have spawned some Kobold offspring. I mean Kobolds are the cutest, niceest race in the game. A Kobald would never shoot a fire arrow at your back to smite you. Only one of the evil races would do that so it only makes it fitting that the nice Kobold with that high charisma should start off the game as the spawn of some evil Lord.
Are you sure your talking about the thick-headed rats cross with dogs that only take about 5 seconds to kill with one good blow and fire arrows at everything?

I wish my name was Baggins 11-21-2002 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pritchke:
The most underrated race is the Kobolds. You can't even chose it due to the large conspiracy against Kobolds (due to K.A.K. influence). Imagine if Gorion adopted a Kobold though that special agency and that was how the game started, would it not be possible that the Lord of Murder could have spawned some Kobold offspring. I mean Kobolds are the cutest, niceest race in the game. A Kobald would never shoot a fire arrow at your back to smite you. Only one of the evil races would do that so it only makes it fitting that the nice Kobold with that high charisma should start off the game as the spawn of some evil Lord.
All hail the wisdom of the words spoken by brother Pritchke...never have truer words been spoken. Down with K.A.K. and everyone BYOB

SnarktheStrange 11-27-2002 02:03 AM

What about Giant Space Hamsters? I've never seen one get killed; and they have "blind" special abilities.

I had a lot of fun playing Dangerous Dagmar, a F/C/M, in P&P. (Chaotic-good Priestess of a fertility goddess.) She retired as an abbess, super-rich, super-lovely, wearing a set of -10 armor illusioned to look like a translucent blue robe, and pregnant by a passing aardvark.

Grungi 11-27-2002 05:41 AM

boo is worthy of protection, he'd own a kobold [img]smile.gif[/img]

D*Ranged 11-27-2002 05:26 PM

Now that Kobolds are being "mentioned" :D , should we put it in "honourary member" :D of underrated race?

Grungi 11-28-2002 10:32 AM

kobolds are rightly underrated ,cos they are terrible fighters, kobold commandos on the other hand can be scary in large numbers

Lord Brass 11-28-2002 07:19 PM

They only ever come out in large numbers. They're afraid to face good Faerûnian steel like a normal adventurer: alone, armed and dangerous. Cowards.

[ 11-28-2002, 07:20 PM: Message edited by: Lord Brass ]

Myrddin L'argenton 12-02-2002 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by Lord Brass:
They only ever come out in large numbers. They're afraid to face good Faerûnian steel like a normal adventurer: alone, armed and dangerous. Cowards.
A good fireball would wipe out the whole pack. I've done it once with a potion.

Grungi 12-02-2002 08:36 AM

lets be honest, a good loud fart would kill most of them and leave the rest running scared [img]tongue.gif[/img] doesnt take much to beat up on kobolds

I wish my name was Baggins 12-03-2002 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by Grungi:
lets be honest, a good loud fart would kill most of them and leave the rest running scared [img]tongue.gif[/img] doesnt take much to beat up on kobolds
Grungi must be eating Lord Brass' cooking

Grungi 12-04-2002 08:19 AM

its the way he cooks those chillis [img]tongue.gif[/img]


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