here ya can judge my party:P i'm only in chapter four:$

Name: Geldin
Gender: Male
Allignment: Lawful Good
Race: Half-Orc
Fighter: Lvl 12
Strength: 22 (+6)
Dexterity: 16 (+3)
Constitution: 16 (+3)
Intelligence: 8 (-1)
Wisdom: 8 (-1)
Charisma: 7 (-2)
Weapon Class: Martial Weapon, Axe

Name: Khatja
Gender: Female
Allignment: Chaotic Good
Race: Half-Orc
Barbarian: Lvl 12
Strength: 21 (+5)
Dexterity: 14 (+2)
Constitution: 14 (+2)
Intelligence: 10
Wisdom: 12 (+1)
Charisma: 6 (-2)
Weapon Class: Martial Weapon, Polearm

Name: Sheris
Gender: Female
Allignment: Chaotic Good
Race: Human
Bard: Lvl 6
Fighter: Lvl 6
Strength: 13 (+1)
Dexterity: 14 (+2)
Constitution: 10
Intelligence: 14 (+2)
Wisdom: 10
Charisma: 18 (+4)
Weapon Class: Martial Weapon, Large Sword

Name: Laeris
Gender: Male
Allignment: Lawful Good
Race: Human
Painbearer of Ilmater: Lvl 12
Strength: 12 (+1)
Dexterity: 12 (+1)
Constitution: 12 (+1)
Intelligence: 12 (+1)
Wisdom: 19 (+4)
Charisma: 12 (+1)
Weapon Class: Simple Weapon, Missile

Name: Vraedna
Gender: Female
Allignment: Chaotic Good
Race: Drow
Sorceress: Lvl 5
Evoker: Lvl 6
Strength: 10
Dexterity: 14 (+2)
Constitution: 15 (+2)
Intelligence: 17 (+3)
Wisdom: 10
Charisma: 16 (+3)
Weapon Class: Simple Weapon, Crossbow

Name: Kylie
Gender: Male
Allignment: Lightfoot Halfling
Race: Neutral Good
Rogue: Lvl 12
Strength: 12 (+1)
Dexterity: 23 (+6)
Constitution: 12 (+1)
Intelligence: 12 (+1)
Wisdom: 10
Charisma: 10
Weapon Class: Martial Weapon, Bow

[ 11-27-2003, 06:08 PM: Message edited by: Suzie ]

These are all nice names and races, but what are their classes?

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You've developed your party pretty well. Just one problem: Why does Vraedna have 5 sorcerer levels and 6 wizard?

ooooooh! axes and polearms, i didnt have the guts to go for those specialities, i was all swords! [img]tongue.gif[/img] nice mix of mischeif makers, nice names to.....i was almost gonna say "WHERES YOU CLERIC!?" and then i spotted him....

yeah i just noticed that.....

lol espeed.....
bozos.... i dont know why really. vraedna died once, then i resurrected her.. she also has like 7 each of her spells, its weird.... i dont knwo whys shes a lower level then everyone else. she seems to be fallin behind too as i progress on....

[ 11-27-2003, 06:21 PM: Message edited by: Suzie ]

<font face="Verdana" size="3" color="#00FF00">There are actually some very nice axes and polearms in the game. I almost always have someone with axes, but will try pole arms in another game.</font>

[ 11-27-2003, 06:31 PM: Message edited by: pritchke ]

yeah its just about trying to break away from the comfort of swords :D

Suzie, yuor sorc/wizard shouldnt be falling behind to much now as your dual classes are within a level of each other, but earlier on she most certainly would have, what was your reasoning behind dualing to wizard? what you said previously isnt clear.....

well i thought a little of both might be good? she did die before, and ive resurrected her... shes the only character that has died and ive saved over it.. a friend told me that a character loses a level when it dies. could that possibly be the reasoning behing the status of my character? i also dont get why all her spells she has 7 or 8 of. why is that? do they stack up?

Drow have +2 level adjustment(with hey start level 1 with 5000 exp and they need 10 000 for level 3), that's why she's slow. If I were you, I'd kick Vraedna out, input her at level 1 as sorcerer(or remodel her) and then cheat her to her old XP status. Just remember to save her equipment on some other character.
To cheat do this:
-go to the game configuration menu
-go to game and tick "Enable Cheat Console"
To give Vraedna her old XP status, write down her old one, redo her and press "CTRL" and "TAB" simultaneously. In the cheat console write
ctrlaltdelete:setcurrentxp(her old xp) and then "ENTER".

And now to clarify on her:
A sorcerer and a wizard have the same spells. Wizards gain spells faster, sorcerers cast more spells per day(but know less spells). Wizards learn spells from scrolls while sorcs learn them as they level. You should not put these two together because it's a terrible strain on ability scores for nothing. You should not experience the XP penalty in two cases: the multi-calss character is a male; the levels are at most one level apart. A Drow male's favoured class is wizard while a female's is cleric.

damn you know to much :D

suzie, rather than having to learn from scrolls to add spells like a wizard does, a sorcerer can inherit them naturally when leveling up, but that way he/she has less spells to use but far more quantity of what he/she has because they are naturally inherited

[ 11-27-2003, 07:41 PM: Message edited by: espeed ]

Wizards' only advantages are extra feats, weapon proficiency and versatility. If you want a walking artillery platform, take a sorcerer. If you want a GI with a bazooka, machinegun, sniper, grenades, nuke, pea-shooter, EMP rifle, jammer device and an artillery cannon, you take a wizard.
And as for the knowledge, I've beaten IWD2 a dozen times already. :D
And it's still a great game.

theres no doubting its a great game in terms of combat and story, but had it inherited BG2's non-linearity, it would have been a classic.......but again its a game series based more on straight line combat than side questing i guess...

but i cant find machine guns in this game:|

AFAIK, in IWD2 its wizard for both male and female...

And one more thing, with a specialist/sorcerer there is a bug that allows you to memorize even your opposition class spells.... Similar one is for specialist/cleric if your oppsing school spell is also a cleric spell then you can memorize it too.

nah, he's right, male wizard female cleric, all in line with the drizzt books :D

it's the only place i've read about them

i have a problem. i wrote down the exp, moved the items onto my other characters, deleted her, made a new one, redone her exp..... the level worked, but i have a problem. shes lost half her life... shes got 33 life at lvl 12, she used to have 66... and theyve also only allowed me to add only 3 of those improvement skills. shes had like 8 of then during my levels (improved armor, weapon masteries etc) help?

Sorcerers have 1d4 health, mages have a bonus feat every five levels. I think you either have a CON score under 10, or you ticked the "Max Hp per Level-up" off.

CON? constitution? the max hp per lvl is ON.... so i dont get it... im only supposed to have 3 bonus features by level 12? and only 33 life?

What's her constitution score? Is she on energy drain by any chance? Is she sorcerer level 12, or effective character level 12? What are her stats?

i didnt save her after i was brutally disapopinted... so tell me, what should her stats be? i want her to be a sorc, with a crossbow... but im not gunna get by with 33 life.

You have 78 points at level 12. I'd assign them like this:
STR: 10(crossbow, right?)
DEX: 14(for the crossbow)
CON: 14(helps with a +2 HP per level, as well as with concentration)
INT: 10(you probably won't need it, except for the Magic Specialty feats)
WIS: 10(useless to her)
CHA: 20(sorcerer)
Or you could have 18 charisma and 12 intelligence, but higher int is for party leaders.

i tried your idea. and it only gave me 10 skills to put into (arcana etc) ... this one gave me 40!

Str - 10
dex - 14
con - 16
int - 16
wis - 10
cha - 16

You're level 12 sorcerer. You won't be able to learn any level 7 spells untill you add a point to charisma. The same goes for level 8(another point) and 9(yet another point). A sorcerer doesn't need more than 10 spellcraft and everything else into concentration and knowledge(a bit more in concentration). Just thought you should know.

lol then i gotta redo her again.... can you get me stats that will get me more then 10 points though?

also. what good is spellcraft to a sorceress?

Two purposes: Aegis Of Rime, Aqua Mortis, Scion Of Storms and Soul Of Fire. These give 5 permanent resistance and 20% damage increase in Acid, Water(Ice), Electrical and Fire respectively. You need 4th spellcasting level and spellcraft of 10. Knowledge is used only to identify items without spells, Alchemy for identifying potions, and Spellcraft to identify what spells are being cast by enemy casters(the second use for it). 14 INT is enough to be full of class skills. Charisma 20 is a must for a 12th level sorcerer, and it really doesn't matter what you do with the other points. If you are planning to use a crossbow and not get into physical combat, you should choose dexterity over constitution. Strenght is also quite unneeded in thet role. Wisdom is usefull for will saves, and that's it's only use in a sorcerer. I'll leave it up to you to determine the correct ratio of ability points.

wow you know too much:P thanks

I just started to play again. Wanna see my party?

sure

yes please!

If you want to see my party you have to look DOWN, we barely come up to your waist!

This is the party:

Trisha the Disease
Sorcerer level 3
Wild Elf
STR: 10
DEX: 12
CON: 12
INT: 14
WIS: 10
CHA: 18
She uses staffs and armor buff magic to survive the front lines, or a bow and a spell barrage. Evolves Diplomacy and Bluff by atleast two points per level.

Bozos of Bones
Necromancer level 1
Fighter level 1
Drow
STR: 14
DEX: 12
CON: 14
INT: 20
WIS: 10
CHA: 10
I plan to be a fighter L4 and the rest is necromancer. I use short swords and mainly necromancy and evocation magics.

Bernard Cypher
Ranger level 3
Aasimar
STR: 16
DEX: 16
CON: 12
INT: 10
WIS: 16
CHA: 10
The party's main bowman and third fighter. Specialises with great swords. I plan to leave his WIS score on 16 because later in the game you find an Every God Ring which gives +5 wisdom.

Rogne
Barbarian level 3
Half-Orc
STR: 20
DEX: 14
CON: 16
INT: 8
WIS: 10
CHA: 6
Using two-handed axes, this barbarian can wreak havoc when unleashed upon a band of goblins.

Rudyard
Paladin of Helm level 3
Human
STR: 16
DEX: 10
CON: 16
INT: 10
WIS: 12
CHA: 12
Longswords is his game, and his WIS score is something that will be evolved through out the game.

Hunatae
Cleric of Lathander level 2
Drow
STR: 14
DEX: 12
CON: 14
INT: 10
WIS: 16
CHA: 14
A capable fighter with bastard swords, her main asset however is her spellcasting.

How do you like it?

sorry:P.. i cant judge a party or tell you you screwed up anything till youre like level 10;) although i got 1 questionl. why so conceided to name a character after yourself! lol

Patricia and Bernard are my friends, Bozos is me and the rest is just random nameless quasi-hero. It helps in role-playing and keeps you from total power-gaming.