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Kakero 11-05-2002 06:37 PM

I'm playing with 6 character. so I want to have a rogue as a scout ( he got high hide and move silently skill ) and as a sniper ( using a bow )as well. Is this good or am I wasting a good talent? does the sneak attack also work with bows?

Luvian 11-05-2002 06:48 PM

I don't think it work with bow.

Kakero 11-05-2002 07:18 PM

no? gee..that's sucks. back to the drawing board then. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Gimli 11-05-2002 09:19 PM

Nope it doesn't work (it did in Neverwinter Nights and made the Rogue the perfect sniper).

You can get Envenom Weapon to work with any weapon, bows included, which is pretty cool. Still it's only a once a day thing.

The best sniper in this game is probably the Fighter since he can load up on feats that would help out archery the most.

Nightowl2 11-05-2002 09:48 PM

A rogue with a good bow and rapid shot can be quite effective. Whenever you're not backstabbing, you can mow down the opposition that way.

By the strict rules, a rogue can sneak attack with a bow if the target iswithin 30 feet. I don't know if that's been implemented here or not.

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Kakero 11-06-2002 05:15 AM

Gimli : a fighter ( or character ) who do not hide and move silently but still uses a bow to shoot a monster is not a sniper. he is a sharpshooter. there is a difference here. ;)

Gimli 11-06-2002 07:52 AM

Heh - well after the fighter gets turned invisible by a Wizard, he'd become a sniper [img]smile.gif[/img]

Vassago 11-06-2002 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kakero:
I'm playing with 6 character. so I want to have a rogue as a scout ( he got high hide and move silently skill ) and as a sniper ( using a bow )as well. Is this good or am I wasting a good talent? does the sneak attack also work with bows?
With hide and move silently skills, you could use him as a good assassin. That is typically what I do w/ my Rogue. If there are a bunch of monsters, I switch my Rogue to a short bow. If it is just a couple then I will use short swords and backstab them.

toriuxik 11-06-2002 11:55 AM

Hmm... I use my thief to eliminate a troublesome enemy after the fight has begun with my tanks. The theif then sneak attacks a spell caster or similar character. I like arterial strike for this, so that I can (theoretically) make them fail a spell. heh heh, they need to have low cons for that though. ;) The damage though, puts that caster mostly out of comition. The dualwielding assassin then finishes the wizard off and tries to avoid the enemy tanks.

Kakero 11-06-2002 08:28 PM

I now notice a problem. whenever my rogue sneak up to a monster. she then fire an arrow. after that she just completely stand there looking at the monster charging up to her. why won't she continue fire another arrow?

Gimli 11-06-2002 11:06 PM

What level Rogue? And does she have the Rapid Shot feat? If she's low level and doesn't have it, it will take longer in between shots. Also if you're going to have her use the bow exclusively, you should take the Point Blank feat too.

Kakero 11-07-2002 04:41 AM

level 3 already. just entered chapter 1. I want my rogue to exclusively use bow only because I'm tired of using rogue with dagger/short sword.

Rapid shot? I know it's useable when pressing the special abilities option. can you use it more than once without having to rest?

[ 11-07-2002, 04:42 AM: Message edited by: Kakero ]

Callum Kerr 11-07-2002 06:02 AM

Yeah, you can use it as many times a day as you want

Zoltan 11-07-2002 08:23 AM

Why shortbow?? Use longbow!

Rogues are BAD snipers

but

RANGER/ROGUES ARE GREAAATTT snipers!!!

I have a ranger/rogue she's great!! Dual wielding short swords, deadly with her bow! 10 levels of rogue is enough believe me! (to get special rogue feats) put rest in ranger or ranger/fighter to get more feats!!

I love my ranger/fighter/rogue (no xp penalty)

Gimli 11-07-2002 10:23 AM

"Rapid shot? I know it's useable when pressing the special abilities option. can you use it more than once without having to rest?"

Yeah, no resting required - you turn the feat on and basically just leave it on and you'll be getting an extra shot per round (does make the shots -2 to hit though, but it's worth it).

Nightowl2 11-07-2002 01:01 PM

At level 3, rogues have one attack per round. Two with a bow and rapid shot. Longbows are generally better than shortbows. As mentioned above, rapid shot stays on until you turn it off. Same for things like power attack and expertise.

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