Any tips on how to defeat her? There are so many giants and
they get me, before I can even think twice about. I need help!!! LOL
thanx in advance!!

Try to take Maiden Ilmadia out first, hope you have an archers to disrupt her spells. Aside from that, have at least two PCs go at her, she is not that good at melee. The giants can reach her "temple" from two different ways, try to have PCs block the passage so you are only face 1 or at most 2 giants at the same time, it usually take the giants a while to get to her "temple" and there should only be about two fire giants around when you finish the dialogue with her. Try to have team efforts, everyone attack one or two targets together, never let any PC chase an enemy, with combine effort, the giants and Maiden Ilmadia are no match for you.

------------------
Long live H22A1!!!!!

Just a note: she will only initiate dialogue with you when she sees you, play around with the space-bar (i.e. the pause button) to position your party better before talking to her helps a lot too. As soon as you see her, pause the game and have on PC initiate the command to talk with her and move (or assign) your other PCs to the appropriate locations while the game is still paused. When you unpause the game, cancel the command to talk to her and position your remaining PC (preferable next to her for a good hit).

------------------
Long live H22A1!!!!!

I just finished this fight Oh man was it good! I tought the game was good this pushed it to great. I enter the cave by the giants side and I tell this giant I am gonna kill him then his familly so where in a pitch battle, Giants everywhere my fighter and clerics are sperated and it's everyone for himself. I let my Conjuror flood the place with the cone of cold while my illusionist cast ice rains down on everybody!

My leader makes a hole throught the giant hode he's almost dead, fighting an elven bicth that seem almost invinsible. My fighter is a 1 hp my Conjuror wips out an ice spear at the last second paralising her, there is about 6 fire giants left everyone is wounded the fight can go either way (would I have to reaload so close to victory!!!!) I find one of my clearic in the mellee he's got one last cure medium wounds left he reaches my fighter just in time to save him a fire giant brings him to 1 hp right after the spell was cast my Cojuror and illusionist are finishing of the one giant, my second fighter and the second cleric are in a fight with an other finaly I manage to bring the leader back to 20 hp. after that the three last giants fell like match sticks.

here and in Joril's cave i cast domination with my mage and cleric. this way you have a better chance one will work. after that i used the giant to block one of the ways around Ilmadia's tent and put all the pc's blocking the other side. - Xavier

What a fight! Here's what worked for me (after 3 or 4 tries http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...miles/wink.gif ):

1. I picked a fight with the first fire giant I met when I entered the area. This way, my weaker characters were still sheltered in the doorway and didn't get beat on. The other giants (and eventually Ilmadia) started streaming up the walkway to the south of me - perfect positioning for area-of-effect spells.

2. If a giant started to straggle up towards the doorway, and my fighters were too busy, I had my mage cast Chromatic Orb or Icelance to stun the giant in place until it could be attended to more directly.

3. As soon as I saw Ilmadia, I sent my strongest fighter after her, and put an archer on her as well.

Good luck!


[This message has been edited by Lillie (edited 03-19-2001).]

I used magic!!! I took my spell ''man''(Level 19) and blowed her up in the sky with first fire balls and death finger, then she was dead. BOOOOM

------------------
Defender and master of Good archmagic

wow! How did you get up to level 19? I've only gotten my mage up to
level 11.

Maiden Ilmadia is a tough battle. Here's a few strategies.
Help! Giants!: you can run to the right of where you first meet the fire giants and you'll see several bridges. Try fighting the fireginats as they file thru one by one over the bridges.
Hocus Pocus: If you have a mage with two Dimension doors memorized, they can actually teleport out to the molten lava flow making up the southern border of the room. From the lava, you can do anything to the giants and half-elf (they have no missle attacks!) weaken them up good, then bring in the wave of fighters.
Better living thru magic: The quickest I ever resolved this battle was with a Cleric/Mage who was Holy Strengthed, Mirror immage, stone skin, hasted, then Tenser's transformation. it was over so quick, i almost missed the combat... Haste can be real powerful since is doubles everything (even attacks per round)

I found a fatal flaw in the once elven maiden. Cast cloud kill or whatever that 5th level mage spell is and she dies, but it takes a lot of the fun out of it.
Cheers

Or just use my stratagy, CHARGE!!! ON IN , i just sent my level 13 dwarven fighter steaming in he single handedly cut down 3 fire giants and maiden ilmadia, he did have a magicaly enhanced armour class of -19 though http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...es/biggrin.gif and my fighter/thief moped up the other fire giants.

------------------
http://hesperex.tripod.com/hesperex.jpg
Master Assassin of the Holy Flame.
My website http://hesperex.8k.com

Haste, bless, and let loose the Chainsaw Brigade™. That was my strategy. I like to keep my battle plans fairly simple, so even my Dwarves can understand it. http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...es/biggrin.gif

Hesperex, you get no points for creativity but quite a few for brutality http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...iles/smile.gif Keep up the good work. By the way how did you get ac -19? Cheers

------------------
"You all wished me to arouse the blade and use it. Now, I think, we begin to understand the consequences. The Black Sword must be fed. It will feed on friends if it cannot feed on enemies......"

The first time I came into this area it was from the Temple entrance at the top but I turned around and came through the mines instead. My party leader was a Paladin and when the Fire Giant questioned me I just lied and he let me by without having to make a mess out of him.

So, my Paladin lied... so sue me! http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...iles/smile.gif

Anyway, created three Fire Elementals, hasted them and sent two "archers" with them for support. Cleaned up all the elementals first then went back to the Fire Giant and triggered a less favourable response.

I clogged up the "alleyway" with summoned bodies and fired arrows and M&Ms until the last few closed the distance. It wasn't much of a fight after than but the Elf gave me her Swan Armour and magic resist shield so I was a happy camper!

[This message has been edited by Misery (edited 04-02-2001).]

Simple. Do all the Quest, and kill every thing you can of enemies, go everywere!

The Xlord

------------------
Defender and master of Good archmagic
Homepage: http://www.nwh.itgo.com