Who would be interested in a NWN versioned new sequel to the all time loved BG Saga. I have some time on my hands and am planning on making a large version of it... slowly released over the year.

So far the story line goes:

Nestled with your beloved family of 4, you and Aerie are known affectionately as the legendary elves of the sword coast. You live in luxury at the much renevated Durlag's Tower. However, the blood of adventurers calls inside you and on hearing Minsc missing in action in the east, you feel unjustice and a stir.
And from what you hear from Imoen's travels with Elminster, a storm gathers in the distant east...
It seems that a force of evil is threatening factions good and evil alike.
The Harpers claim it to be an undead demon
The Draco Society claims it to be their latest Darcolich
The Zhentariums have lost warriors and trade
The Temple of Cyric claims their day has come
and Drow are as usual involved in all things dark and strange

Yet Elminster fears a worse evil in this land . . .

[ 10-02-2002, 05:55 AM: Message edited by: Avatar ]

<font color="gold">It sounds like a good beginning, but this must be considered:

- What if one didn't romance Aerie?
- What if you aren't an Elf?
- What if you chose to become a God when ending ToB?</font>

<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" size=4>Maybe it could read certain flags that were made in ToB.

For instance, change the name to your current romance. Aerie-Jaheira/Anomen. Or, just refer to you as you if you didn't romance.
Change the race appropriate to what your race is, in comparison with your romance.
If you chose to be a God, it says you hear from Cespenar, and need to save your Former Home of Candlekeep.

Or many other possibilities. These are just some of mine :D

Avatar: Great idea! [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

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[ 10-02-2002, 08:22 AM: Message edited by: DJG ]

Sounds GREAT,. Elfs are cool, and Aerie well, take out the whining ;) hehe.

Hmm, why not send everyone the script and they can ajust it themselves? For example, i play a female half-elf roamncing Kelsey-very far from Male/elf/Aerie, i fear [img]tongue.gif[/img]
I love the idea, however, Avatar. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

How about something along these lines. An epic journey that causes you to practically travel halfway around Faerun. Two cities become involved in a trade war, causing sea battles, armies clashing across the land, and at the core of it a ruthless and ambitious young noble, clan, or guild, or whatever, who has helped fuel the war. Or whatever you want to add in there. Then the "child" of your bhaalspawn, hence the character you played in the BG series, or just some other character altogether bands with a close friend and together you travel across the lands, meeting companions along the way, hoping to become the saviors of Faerun by ending the war. Basically your a glory hound looking to get out of your small village and get into a life of adventuring. More ideas as they come to me.

[ 10-02-2002, 01:50 PM: Message edited by: Mellagar ]

That sounds exactly like BG1, except on a larger scale.

hmm, why not have it so you can keep you're "lineage" secret. after all, you "supposed" dissapeared after the Bhaalspawn saga... it would be the players choice, when to reveal it and to whom. ;) after all, fame isnt nessecarly a good thing (remembers BG 1 assassins, shudders). it could be a key element to teh story. ;)

What if you played solo..........?

How about this, you are the child of the bhaalspawn who saved Faerun, however something happened which caused you to be separated, and you were raised in a big city in an orphanage. You travel across Faerun trying to reestablish your lineage by following leads given to you by those who either fought by the side of your bhaalspawn parent or those who met, or recalled the epic journeys.

Or maybe I need more sleep.......

Heck, Avatar, I'll play, even if I have to Romance Aerie. Though, if I find Viconia, Aerie had better look out. ;)

Indeed. I turned to god - heck, I have now all the time I need in my hands to do whatever I wanted, go wherever I wanted and so on..

Of course, then again my other char did not became a god. And he did not romance Aerie, she's too whiny. And he definately was not the pointy eared pipsqueak elf, he was - like all my chars are - human :D

There are simply too many "if"'s, that it would be easier to do something "alike" but diffrent. I.e. the main protagonist is the child of your BG-series char. Basically, as generally hinted, every romance one way or another led in the end to family, and who can say that there wasn't born a child from every family. If you became a god, then make so that the child is from someone whom the main char was in love, but for whatever reason it didn't play out, and didn't know that he had a child (in case of a female char it's tricky, I mean how can a female not know that she had a child :D ). Hmm... Get's tricky again. Ah, just make the new char as a long lost nephew no one knew about and done hehe..

I still say it could be you're character off the original BG seris; after his/her "divine"(*cough*tained*cough*) blood, its reasonable to assume (if anything in this damn saga is reasonable [img]tongue.gif[/img] ) that he/her would have lost a significant part of his/her powers, for example, I remember the "cure light wounds" speciable ablilty after I left Candlekeep, via that dream [img]tongue.gif[/img] theoretically, would my char have lost that along with the devine/tained essence? just a thought. It would also be reasonable to assume that he/she is a lot weaker...

Can't you just make some sort of prequel to BG instead of a sequel? I mean: it is explained that Gorion had to save you from the Altar where you were to be sacrificed so that Bhaal could rise again. Maybe a game about that (involving the Time of Troubles as well) could be interesting.

Why not tell your own totally original story that is not dependent on anything in BG series? You could have the characters start off with 0 experience and work all the way up to 8000000 or beyond. I don't know what all the modding utilites are capable of, but if you're making a mod go ahead and do it in its own universe, or at least with a totally different cast of characters. Also, that would allow you to totally rebalance weapons and other equipment, character classes, and spells and abilities to your liking. Of course this is an awful lot of work, but then again good mods usually are...

Personally I would love to see a "Wheel of Time" mod, or even a whole game that plays like BG.

LOL, we'd all like to see a game that plays like BG. I would play $200.00 for a game the size and complexity of BG that used the Infinity engine. Has anyone played the Pool of Radiance module for NWN? You start at level 1, or ideally you do, and it is really big.

I like it, as the author of the story, you get to chose what happened to the characters in the previous game. So the Elf romancing Aerie part is your choice.

The story so far is very good, the only problem is that in BG2 when you finish the game, you are already level 20+, so a sequel would be hard to make.

A game in the Wheel of Time universe would be very cool, as long as you don't control the main characters from the novels, that would be boring.

What I would like to see is one based on the Wheel of Time Pen and Paper roleplaying game. I would be willing to pay a lot for such a game.

[ 10-13-2002, 07:27 PM: Message edited by: Luvian ]

I think that you should make the new Baulder's Gate set north of
Baulder's Gate, in the city of Waterdeep, since we have heard SO
much about.
Though I Agree that is a good to keep the same charachter.
you can make the story however you want (Though I think the family of
four thing is kind of cheesy) maybe you can even have famous people like
Drizzt Do'Urden, and Eliminster JOIN your party (though I know Eliminster does not like to interfear) and have old friends/loves join your party, like Jaheira,Aerie,Keldorn, & Viconia (She could hate Drizzt.) The loss of power would be good for the storyline.

Other than that, it sounds great!

That'd be fun, but I dont think that would be possible, well, I s'pose it MIGHT, but it dependes which "book" your playing, eg; if you wanted to play Rand, when hes the Dragon and a blademaster... it'd be kinda hard... espcialyy the one power thing, it COULD be scripted I guess.. but... it'd probably be easier to make Bk1.. I dont if it'd have to be single or mutli play with a DM tho; and the person who made it would have to script Moraine's 1 power. I'm assuming you'd play as one of the three tav'eren... but thats just my thoughts... s'pose you could play as Lan, or Egwene... pity you couldn't ride horses. I think IF someone made a WOT mod, it'd be MUCH easier to make it BG2SOA rather then NWNs... what do you think? just a couple of thoughts off the top of my head.

Avatar i think the idea is great, but to add my 2 cents worth, i would say why not have your character stripped off all his powers and experience by sum villian so you have to start all over again and in the end you face the villian who has all of your old powers??

Deximus

Great idea Avatar. I for one would definately play it.

That's a fun idea.

Suppose your character was a young Harper, apprenticed or otherwise attached to Gorion... determined to prove your worth to the organisation. You could

- Battle newly-awakened evils in the Sword Coast, uncovering the sinister and determined new Cult of Cyric
- Search out Zhentarim and their insane schemes as part of your apprenticeship
- Meet a young Khalid and Jahiera, perhaps even working with them - Against Baron Ployer's slave network, perhaps?
- Meet BG2 characters yet to rear their heads; the Harpers Galvarey and Dermin Courtierdale
- Tie up loose ends - like who was Rielev before you discovered his brain in a jar? How was Alianna, Gorion's friend and lover, seduced into worshipping Bhaal?

And, eventually, you'd be caught up in the battle between the Harpers and the Bhaalite priesthood, ending up with the guardianship of a young infant girl, and with a long, perilous journey to safety ahead of you - finally answering the question of how Imoen ended up in Candlekeep?

I second Tancred. *nods* you could also have it at the "epic end scene" of Gorion rescuing the Bhaalspawn from the temple?

Not mention slaying the Bhaalchild's mother... AND seeing Sarevok escape... hmm, thats a point, you'd have to fix it so the Bhaalspawn's race was the same as his mother... OR just a "cloaked" dark figure. sounds fun. I'll back that too. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Sir Exxon
Member # 4020 posted 10-02-2002 06:54 AM
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It sounds like a good beginning, but this must be considered:

- What if one didn't romance Aerie?
- What if you aren't an Elf?
- What if you chose to become a God when ending ToB?

Here's another question Sir Exxon: What if you haven't completed ToB yet and didn't know that you would be making the decision of whether to become a God or not. SPOILER TAGS PLEASE!!! Thank you...

It's all a bit 'Baldur's Gate - Episode 1' really. [img]smile.gif[/img] And, heh, it was Link's idea...

Tanc

Very nice, but not like NWN. i dont like 3-d, i perfer 2-d like the orginals.

Looks Great Avatar but lets consider the story line I mean you don't want to become like every other chronicle writer just regurgitating what past stories carried with ease. Maybe bring in a new race of people or possibly a new land with mysterious creatures never played with before. Other than that I am getting bored restarting my BG and IW chronicles over and over so Please Give us more!!

Just give him some great ideas 'cos this is great [img]graemlins/awesomework.gif[/img]

Man, that is a good story line but change Aerie. I dont really like that that much...

I have occasionally given thought to a sequel to the Baldur's Gate saga, )although I have to say the mark of any great stroy is that it has a beginning, a middle and an END), and my ideas for a stroy line are as follows;

Some resergence of Bhaal. The opening could include you being cast down to Faerun by a new avatar of your father who has arisen as a result the actions of an underground cult of Bhaal and/or a secret society within the church of Cyric.

The mission is to reduce the amount of Bhaal worshippers by travelling the sword coast/Faerun/Toril to the level that Bhaal may defeated as a mortal.(A god's Power is directly proportional to the number and ferver of their worshippers)

This, I think, would make a good send off for the infinity engine, rather than IWD2.

Only one problem; It assumes you chose to be a god at the end of ToB, although this could be worked around by you hearing of a threat to the serenity of the sword coast (this being Bhaal of course)

I think writing a book is faster... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

if u chosed to be a god in ToB, why couldnt u walk around incognito as a god??? most had avatars if memory served me correct.... or u could be a god watchin over his flock or something??

hm, thought has JUST come to me, so at the moment it's in its rawest form.

You are a slave (of any race) who is incarcerated in Ust Natha (that WAS the Drow city in BG2, right?). Anyway, when the char roughs stuff up by going through the city, you escape in the madness and make yourself throught the underdark. At the begginning you pick up a weapon of a dead drow, and maybe band together with some fellow prisoners. Inevitably, you would come to the surface, but it would be nice to play in the Underdark for a while.

Oh, and for the people who will, of course, say "But what if you slipped silently out of Ust Natha, or just went to the surface and didn't bother with them" just remember that BG2 assumed that you knew Jaheirah, Khalid, Minsc, the witch, Viconia, and countless others. Just by assuming that you killed a few drow is not as big a jump than that ;)

all of you stories are nice and complicated! i wish you guys could make that kind of mod soon. i would love to play the game [img]smile.gif[/img]

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Hey everyone, I am in the process of making
Baldur's Gate III - Heart of Cormyr
Chapter 1:

Here is a brief taster of ONLY the FIRST chapter:

Resident with your beloved in your fortress Durlag's Tower, you have lived in bliss and comfort for 20 years. Though a mere flash for the elven race, your fellow human adventurers have passed into old age if not beyond. News has reached you of the disappearance of Minsc and the death of Keldorn in defending Athkatla.
However, even more worrying is the recent escalation in border skirmishes between Amn and Baldur's Gate. Trade war has led to both sides accusing each other of plundering trade lines and even worse: assassination. Waterdeep's attempt to steer the two states away from war has led to an Amn sponcered Shadow Thief attack on the Lords of Waterdeep, killing 1 and injuring another.
Now an army marches south from Waterdeep, gathering strength at Baldur's Gate with hundreds of Flaming Fists.
Amn in defence have bannished the Shadow Thieves from Athkatla and called for neighbouring aid from Tethyr and even as far south as Calisham.
Already leading elements of Flaming Fists swarm the once quiet and peacefull town of Beregost. Likewise, Amnnish soldiers heavily patrol Nashkell and it's surrounding countryside.
You are summoned to a high meeting to Candlekeep to discuss the state of affairs. Yet it is at Candlekeep you feel a sudden unease... as if your sweet former home brews with evil...
Little do you know, your journey will take you further and deeper than ever before.
Before long you will meet with old friends, ascend the steps of Zhentil Keep, look out from the heights of the Raven Citadel, battle with the avatars of gods, travel to the heart of cormyr, and finally meet your destiny...

All in the: Baldur's Gate III - Heart of Cormyr

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Hmmm....... I know most of you might disagree here but these are my thoughts:

a successful game , movie or a book comes out and turns into a big success.... very nice... a sequel is soon made which is an even better success; it adds lots of new stuff and corrects mistakes of the previous part.... very nice.... now what happens is encouraged by the success hundreds of sequels suddenly come out... although they carry good original ideas I feel that later actually spoil the saga.... the storyline starts to be stretched from all possible directions to all possible extends.... not very nice...

i think warcraft is an example......... im saying warcraft 3 is an excellent agme but the storyline isnt... the storyline now got extended to the third generation.... not only that.. one level left the ending open as to what happend to prince arthas and that night-elf's brother....

there are more much better examples..

thats why i was really happy when bg2 tob was declared the final chapter.... the ending of a saga... and what a magnificent ending it was...

with so many ideas given by the members here i think it would be better, much better if you use these ideas and make a new Forgotten realms game without connecting it to bg series... just call it Heart of Cormyr.......

just my thoughts..........

One more thing....

in my opinion what you should do is keep exactly the same storyline you mentioned above and just change the protagonist of your game and instead of having the same person from BG instead make him a completely new person... while you put some people from BGseries and make references to it it would be nice if your game would be a completely new story and nothing to do with the saga of children of bhaal........

and you could add the hero from baldurs gate (as a god or as a mortal) not as a playable character but have him involved in one of the quests......

The plot is great - and I thirst for further BG adventures. I do agree with ZFR on one point, though for different reasons.

By the end of TOB, the characters we play either become Bhaal, or are at such an unreal level that they are on par with Elminster, et al.

As such, a new game would almost require a new generation - otherwise how could it be balanced for new players and old (the same game would have to support level 40 imports from TOB and brand new players, who certainly shouldn't start out with level 40 characters.

Given these considerations, I'd suggest keeping everything the same, except extend the saga to the next generation. Maybe the protagonist is, depending upon race, the progeny of the BGI/BGII series character and his romantic interest - that would fit well with the "about twenty years later" timeline. The kid is just old enough to go out and kick some butt.