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Klorox 04-09-2006 10:22 AM

I'm playing a Elf Ranger with minimum stats (as low as they can go) thru the whole series. Of course, I'll add in Tomes when I find them in BG1.

What kit is best when I hit SoA/ToB? I don't know which one is better. I am seeking a power kit here.


Also, here are my projected parties thru the series. Any advice is welcome, bue keep in mind I plan on playing a mostly good aligned party.

BG1:

Minnie
Imoen (Thief 5-Conjuror)
Jaheira (Khalid died already)
Yeslick
Coran
Ajantis

BG2:

Minnie
Imoen/Yoshimo
Jaheira
Minsc or Valygar
Keldorn
Anomen

Sir ReGiN 04-09-2006 11:29 AM

Considering the party you're going with in BGII, I think an archer would be the most rewarding class to play, since you have at least three tanks, and since you do, I would recommend installing the Tactics mod for increased difficulty.

[ 04-09-2006, 08:11 PM: Message edited by: Sir ReGiN ]

Dundee Slaytern 04-09-2006 01:43 PM

Hmm... with minimal stats... being a ranged character is your best bet. Tanking is out of the question, unless you are masochistic or something.

Good luck when you meet the Illithids.

Tip: Certain ToB HLAs will instant kill Illithids. Use in conjunction with ranged weapons for deadly effect.

Klorox 04-09-2006 08:33 PM

Such as...?

BTW, what will my stats be, assuming I choose all good options, use every boost from the Machine of Lum the Mad on myself, and read each Tome and Manual myself?

TIA

True_Moose 04-10-2006 12:27 AM

Well, I don't know what you're stats would be, but instead of an archer, a different track might be a stalker in BG2. There are plenty of strength enhancing items (even in BG1 there are 18/00 gloves), and you'd probably be using mostly ranged weapons in BG1 anyways. With the stalker's backstab, you could actually be effective in battle in BG2, and hide in shadows in both instances would help your character stay out of the line of fire, as it were.

Link 04-10-2006 05:21 PM

Fireseed + Deathblow. That's what Dundee's talking about I think.

Armen 04-11-2006 07:26 AM

from a forum search* the minimums are as follows (figures in brackets are after the BG1 tomes are used)

STR 13 (14)
DEX 13 (15)
CON 14 (15)
INT 3 (4)
WIS 14 (17)
CHA 3 (4)

so not that weak at all really

* feel free to correct me

Klorox 04-11-2006 06:42 PM

The minimum CHA and INT of an Elf are 8 in each. Also, there is only 1 Tome for DEX in BG1.

I'm also curious about the stat changes in BG2, assuming all Good choices are made in Hell.

True_Moose 04-11-2006 07:37 PM

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+1 to Wis and Cha is all for stats. You also get Immunity to +1 & Less Weapons, +10% magic resistance, +2 to all saving throws and 20% resistance to fire, electricity and cold.

timothy trotter 04-12-2006 01:23 AM

that is assuming that you follow a certain path, you can get other effects based on how you perform tasks.

True_Moose 04-12-2006 07:19 PM

Yeah, but he asked specifically about all the good choices. ;)

The evil paths are far more rewarding and useful IMHO. Minus of course the problem of becoming a Fallen Ranger.

[ 04-12-2006, 07:20 PM: Message edited by: True_Moose ]

SpongeLikeCow 04-30-2006 02:13 PM

Isn't there some a bracer or something that gives 18 dexterity? You would be just fine as an Archer.

timothy trotter 04-30-2006 09:17 PM

you would be better off with the bracers of archery, i think. and the low CHA could easily be brought up to 18.

Klorox 04-30-2006 09:35 PM

Well, the Bracers would add +2 to hit. An 18 DEX would add +2 to hit, as well as -4 to AC. But if I ever do play this character out, I'll probably use the Archery bracers, because the DEX bracers help out a tank much more than an archer who will hopefully never enter melee combat.

timothy trotter 05-01-2006 03:30 AM

good point klorox. Keldorn would be most benefited by the boost to dex, as it is quite low. Whenever i take him, i always slap those bracers on him.

Deathsangel 05-01-2006 01:28 PM

Brawling Bracers (= Bracers of dexterity), with the minimum strenght of ranger he isn't that weak. In BG2 a belt can still be done for strength and the ring of human influence. Voila 22 strenght, 18 Dex, 18 Cha. Your wisdom and con are reasonable as minimum of ranger is reasonably up there (this overrights lowest possible score of elf to my knowledge). You only remain as dumb as a horse it's arse... good luck roleplaying...

Klorox 05-02-2006 08:20 AM

8 INT (9 in BG2) isn't that low. I know it's below average, but c'mon!

Deathsangel 05-02-2006 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Armen:
from a forum search* the minimums are as follows (figures in brackets are after the BG1 tomes are used)

STR 13 (14)
DEX 13 (15)
CON 14 (15)
INT 3 (4)
WIS 14 (17)
CHA 3 (4)

so not that weak at all really

* feel free to correct me

Your int will 3 at start of BG1, at the end of BG1 it will be 4. In BG2 it will become +1 due to Lum the Mad Machine which will make 5. Only if you have revived hell trials you can get it to 8 by taking the neutral path with Sarevok.

Deathsangel 05-02-2006 01:30 PM

<span style="color:#FFFFFF">DSlaytern] Hmm... wanted to delete this double post originally, but then Klorox's reply would have made less sense.

[ 05-02-2006, 08:09 PM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

Klorox 05-02-2006 01:38 PM

Deathangel, you're not only wrong, you're wrong twice! ;) And we've been over this already!

The minimum INT and CHA of an Elf are 8.


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