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timothy trotter 12-30-2004 05:19 AM

im realy new to this, i played BG 1 and it was good so i got this one too. i am using multiplayer mode with 3 genereted characters
1. Paladin
2. Monk
3. Sorceror

The rest of my party is this:
Anomen
Minsc
Yoshimo

My frist problem is this:
Anomen for some reason cannot cast spells anymore. he hasnt got any things like level drain on him, so i dont understand. His wisdo score is coloured in red, and it is 16, so i think this may be the problem. is there anyway to regain the two wisdom points lost? (i have tried removing all his item and it is still 16)

problem number two: (spoilers maybe)
As my lead charicter is a paladin, i have done his stonghold quest and he now carries the avenger, i looked at his information and saw he only accounted for about 8% of the parties XP. i was wondering how a dual class senario would work, hes a level 10 cavaleir at the moment, and i have no idea how dual classing works, could somebody advise me?

Thanks in advance

Xen 12-30-2004 05:38 AM

1) Try to rest. If that doesn't help, try to cast Lesser/Greater Restoration on him.

2) Correct me if wrong but I think that Paladin(s) can't be Dual-Classed.


On Dual-Classing itslef: when you Dual-Class let's say from a Kensai (Fighter kit) to a Mage you loose some of your Kensai's abilitys and you can use them again once your Mage portion is higher then your Kensai portion. That means if you Dual-Class at level 8, you must be level 9 (Mage portion) to be able to use your Kensai's abilitys.

timothy trotter 12-30-2004 05:42 AM

so if i was this kensai lvl 8 and dual classed at level 8 i would not be able to use my kensai abilities (whatever they are) until i have gone up 1, 2, 3, 4..... all the way to lvl 9 as a mage. would i be able to wear metal armour while casting spells?

Xen 12-30-2004 05:44 AM

No. You wouldn't. In fact, you are not able to wear any armor while casting spells.

timothy trotter 12-30-2004 05:47 AM

so he wouldnt be muchof a fighter if he count wear armour could he?

JayS 12-30-2004 05:52 AM

A kensai cannot wear armor anyway.

timothy trotter 12-30-2004 06:03 AM

oh. but can a paladin dual class? or how can i make him better...

timothy trotter 12-30-2004 06:15 AM

oh i did try greater restoration and then resting and it did no good... are there any other reasonable healers?

Cerek 12-30-2004 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by timothy trotter:
oh i did try greater restoration and then resting and it did no good... are there any other reasonable healers?
<font color=plum>Anomen starts out with a Wisdom score of 12. If he has a score of 16 now, then he has gotten an item that raised his score by 4 points. That is why the Wisdom score is in <font color=red>red</font>. A <font color=red>red attribute score</font> means that ability has been modified by an item or spell on that character.

What happened that caused him to lose his spellcasting ability? Which battle were you in just before you noticed this problem? The only two reasons I can think of that Anomen (or any other spellcaster) could no longer cast ANY spells is that he either cast ALL of his memorized spells already OR he has been "Silenced" by a spell-effect or item. Both of these would prevent spellcasting. But if you have rested for a full 8 hours, BOTH of those causes should have been eliminated. He would have regained his memorized spells and the duration of the "Silence" would have long since worn off.

As for your paladin, there is no reason he shouldn't be your best front-line fighter - especially with an Avenger sword. Minsc is a good tank and monks are strong characters too, but a paladin should be able to hold his own with either of these characters. If you are blasting your enemies with spells from your sorcerer, then NONE of your fighter types are going to make large contributions to your kill total. But a paladin is designed to be a front-line tank. Give him the best armor you can find and a good sword and he should be smiting enemies right and left. He also should have enough hit points to withstand a lot of the damage enemies deal out. With Minsc, Anomen and your monk available to "share" the damage dealt out by enemies, there is no reason your paladin shouldn't have as many kills (if not more) than the rest of the party.</font>

Magness 12-30-2004 10:01 AM

You also have to remember that those percentages are based on kills, not damage inflicted. That is, if you are attacking a creature with 100 hp, your pally may inflict the first 99 hp of damage, but the monk who inflicted the final 100th hp of damage gets credit for the kill.

SixOfSpades 12-30-2004 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by timothy trotter:
Anomen for some reason cannot cast spells anymore. he hasnt got any things like level drain on him, so i dont understand.
As previously stated, the only things that can block Priest spellcasting are effects such as Insect Plague (which wears off very quickly), or simply not having any spells memorized. You can Rest for days on end and it won't do you any good if you don't select which spells you want memorized. Check to make sure Anomen's (in fact, everybody's, the fact that you're playing a Sorcerer may be helping to confuse you) spellslots are full before you Rest.

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His wisdo score is coloured in red, and it is 16, so i think this may be the problem. is there anyway to regain the two wisdom points lost?
The two Wisdom points lost? How do you know he started with a WIS of 18? Because he didn't. No, Anomen has a natural WIS of 12, which can get raised to 16 if you complete a certain quest in a certain way. His WIS score will be in red for the rest of the game, don't bother looking for items that are affecting it.

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As my lead charicter is a paladin, i have done his stonghold quest and he now carries the avenger, i looked at his information and saw he only accounted for about 8% of the parties XP. i was wondering how a dual class senario would work, hes a level 10 cavaleir at the moment, and i have no idea how dual classing works, could somebody advise me?
Paladins (and Barbarians, Bards, Monks, and Sorcerers) cannot Dual-class.
For everything you ever needed to know about Dual-classing (and in fact the entire rest of the game), click the link in my signature.
You completed Anomen's quest and have won Carsomyr, and your Paladin is still only Level 10!? Man, I miss those days....


Thanks in advance [/QB][/QUOTE]

LennonCook 12-30-2004 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />His wisdo score is coloured in red, and it is 16, so i think this may be the problem. is there anyway to regain the two wisdom points lost?
The two Wisdom points lost? How do you know he started with a WIS of 18? Because he didn't. No, Anomen has a natural WIS of 12, which can get raised to 16 if you complete a certain quest in a certain way. His WIS score will be in red for the rest of the game, don't bother looking for items that are affecting it.</font>[/QUOTE]<span style="color: lightblue">I don't think it's red in a Baldurdashed Game. The effect that made it red also blocked other Wisdom-affecting things.

EDIT: Ok, ignore me. This seems to only apply in TOB, and only if you recruit him in TOB, rather than having him in your party as you go through:
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<span style="color: white">Anomen Title Fix resolves the oversight of his title and associated bonuses of his knighthood being lost when he is summoned in [location removed] in Throne Of Bhaal if Shadows Of Amn is completed without him present in the party, and that his Wisdom was "red numbered" as a magical effect so could not be increased by any means.
[ 12-30-2004, 05:05 PM: Message edited by: LennonCook ]

timothy trotter 01-03-2005 01:27 AM

ok ill make sure he has spells memorised, they were before, so i dont know why or how thay would becoem un memorised


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