I have read about how these two pairs will face off against each other and eventually throw down. I am very interested to see Jah and Kha lay the smack down, but so far it's been all talk. Is there a certain time frame that must elapse before they will fight each other? Me and Imoen have been egging them on for several days now to no avail. Perhaps Jah & Kha will not initiate the final confrontation until the party reaches Nashkell? (we are in Beregost at the moment)

In my case it has happened (no patch, no ToSC) in Friendly Arm Inns - about 10-15 minutes after Jaheira and Khalid have joined my party.
I think it is random, and very rare - never happened again.

I have read accounts of that fight breaking out in the Nashkel mines. It does sound like fun, I've been meaning to check it out too.

It's happened to me a couple of times--the last one occurred in record time, about nine seconds after I picked up Jah & Khalid. I was kinda wounded, so I had Jahiera heal me before we went to sleep. Enraged that someone would use such a clean, sanitary, non-offensive spell right in front of them, Xzar and Monty went apeshit. So we whacked them....Not that I'd miss them or anything. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I never even bother taking xzar and montaron along.Imho my party is better of without them.

Sorry to stray from the main topic a bit here...

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Campino:
I never even bother taking xzar and montaron along.Imho my party is better of without them.<hr></blockquote>

I have only used Xzar and Monty just upon leaving Candlekeep to help defeat the assassin at FAI, then dropped them. But from the dialogue trasnscripts I've seen on walkthroughs it looks like Xzar and Monty both have some pretty funny lines. I want to play an all evil party eventually and I intend to use Monty as my thief. He has decent stats and I like his soundset. I've heard he's very good with the crossbow, and a surprisingly strong character after he levels up some. Xzar will have to go, I think, as I'm probably going to play a mage myself.

No contest

Jaheira and Khalid wins anyday

socially ofcourse ;)

I don't think there are two more annoying couples in any game going! And Jaheira/Khalid would definitely win any given day. Khalid is a superb fighter (even if his 'heart really isn't in this'), though why he hasn't stuck a sock in Jaheira's mouth to shut her up long before is anyone's guess. I use her more as a fighter than anything, tho, and if she dies, well it was in the line of duty...

Monty is ok. Xzar is just about useless and I've never kept him alive long enough to see if he improves with leveling [img]smile.gif[/img] .

Never had any trouble between the two couples, tho, other than the bitching Jaheira *always* does.

I started an evil party (more so I could use the 'smart ass' answers than anything! [img]smile.gif[/img] ) Immy came along and no one hastled her, which was good since I had such a soft spot for her ;) Of course I was an evil paladin, and she was convinced she could 'save' me.....

When I play evil I usually play a necro, and in my party there is not enough room for 2 necros... so its bye bye mr xzar. I usually wait until I hear one of his smart ass responses to kill him, hehe...

My brother played Jaheira/Khalid + Xzar/Montaron all the way to the end. They fought each at regular intervals, so he just kept re-loading. The original Midget Gems party contained Tiax and Quayle and they eventually came to blows in the streets of Baldurs Gate. Can't remember who won though!

I use Jah and Khalid as well, although I wish they weren't a "couple" as I'd get rid of Jah in a hot minute! But, alas, if Jah dies, eventually Khalid turns yellow and leaves the party, so I'm stuck with the irritable snob! Their fighting in my game seems to be a random thing. I like Khalid though, a great fighter (well except with Jah where he turns whimpy!)

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by ladyzekke:
I use Jah and Khalid as well, although I wish they weren't a "couple" as I'd get rid of Jah in a hot minute! But, alas, if Jah dies, eventually Khalid turns yellow and leaves the party, so I'm stuck with the irritable snob! Their fighting in my game seems to be a random thing. I like Khalid though, a great fighter (well except with Jah where he turns whimpy!)<hr></blockquote>

Khalid has gone all the way to Baldur's Gate with me after Jaheira dies with no problem. He was vocally cowardly, but still an excellant fighter with no hesitation. As far as I'm concerned, Jaheira could go fly!

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by ladyzekke:
I use Jah and Khalid as well, although I wish they weren't a "couple" as I'd get rid of Jah in a hot minute! But, alas, if Jah dies, eventually Khalid turns yellow and leaves the party, so I'm stuck with the irritable snob! Their fighting in my game seems to be a random thing. I like Khalid though, a great fighter (well except with Jah where he turns whimpy!)<hr></blockquote>

IIRC you can separate pairs of characters by taking just one of the pair into a building (just make sure it's a location you don't have to go back to, i.e., don't do this at an inn, temple, or store) and removing that character from the party.

Actually, stat-wise and ability-wise, I much prefer Monty and Xzar to Jaheira and Khalid. Monty's a pretty good Fighter/Thief (he's absolute trash compared to Coran, of course, but who isn't?), and I think Xzar's the best pure Mage in the game. (Depending on your equipment: If no one in your party needs the Gauntlets of Dexterity, go ahead and get Edwin. If you DO have a clumsy guy, you're better off using Xzar.) On the other side, neither Khalid nor Jaheira have a STR or DEX worth writing home about, and where does Jaheira get off calling herself a Druid with only 14 Wisdom? If you want to play the 'plot-suggested' party of You, Imoen, Jaheira, Khalid, Minsc, and Dynaheir, go ahead. But if you're doing anything else, I'd leave the Friendly Arm pair to their own devices.

Just put jaheira in a house, walk to the other end of the map. Then remove her from your party and get out of there(thats what i did).

No way!!!!! You mean I can actually get rid of Jah and keep Khalid???? REJOICE!!!!!!! I had no idea! Wooohoooo! Thanks for telling me, next NPC I choose will be taking her place (still have only found a couple NPCs from DSOTSC, waiting for better ones)!

Now you guys are SURE right? Nothing later will happen with Khalid down the road later on in the game? Is OK all the way around??

Yeah, Dreamer has the formula right. Just put the member of the pair you want to drop in a house alone, by him or herself, and remove the character. I guess it wouldn't hurt to move a distance away before dropping the character as insurance, although that probably shouldn't matter. There won't be any storyline repercusions.

Interesting that you prefer Khalid. If I ever do this to that pair I prefer to keep Jaheira!

I am amazed that anyone has the patience to keep Jaheira in their party, she winds me right up and I simply let her get killed before picking up Branwyn. Khalid has never moaned about her dying or anything.

If you don't want someone in your party, just kill them yourself. I got rid of Dynaheir that way. You keep Minsc and don't have to put up with Dynaheir's crap. Works with Khalid and Jaheria too.

Xzar is the best NPC in the game (He's my character's boyfriend! HA!). I love the soundset he has, especially if you click him (or any other character) several times in a row and hear the easter egg sounds! I couldn't dump K & J fast enough- all the whining K did was upsetting. J was much more tolerable, but still annoying. I play an evil party anyway, so it's natural to use Xzar. I let Montaron die early on, though. Xzar is now 5th level and very strong character.
Of the evil characters I have, I think Kagain is the worst. I keep him because he regenerates HPs. Oh, Shar-Teel's easter egg sound set is really funny, too. She reminds me a lesbian friend of mine. ; )
Katherine

So, what happens with the Xzar character? I went to the second floor of Sorcerous Sundries and the mage up there told me that Xzar has been sending him reports on me. Xzar is my hero! He's screwing my character in so many ways. [img]graemlins/bunny.gif[/img]

Does this part of the story line go anywhere, or was it just to show that he's truly a baddy?

For my good party I took Kahlid/Jaheria and for my evil part I took Mont/Xzar. BTW, if you are a paladin (ie a character with high charisma) the two pairs never fight, only argue.

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Katherine:
So, what happens with the Xzar character? I went to the second floor of Sorcerous Sundries and the mage up there told me that Xzar has been sending him reports on me. Xzar is my hero! He's screwing my character in so many ways. [img]graemlins/bunny.gif[/img]

Does this part of the story line go anywhere, or was it just to show that he's truly a baddy?<hr></blockquote>

Nah, it is nothing to worry about. Those mages and Xzar belong to the same order, so they will not attack you if he is in the party. You will learn what Xzar has been up to from that dialogue. That is a pretty good fight with those mages as I recall...

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Lemernis:
...Those mages and Xzar belong to the same order...<hr></blockquote>

I think it was because Xzar is a Zhentarim agent and he was reporting to them on you.

Methinks that Xzar is the best NPC ever. It's the worst pity that he wasn't taken into BG2. He has a strong personality and can be pretty useful. And Jaheira and Khalid are two of the most irritating and annoying chars in BG2. Khalid is good, true, but Shar-Teel is better. Pity, that it' s so complicated being evil in BG1.

I've seen several comments about wanting to have NPCs in your party but they are of the wrong alignment, it's certainly something that I've encounted. Now if only it were possible to get the Helm of Opposite Alignment (or whatever its called - haven't found it yet) this would be really cool. Instead we get that joke item the Girdle of Male/Female swopping, which is so silly I can remember it's name.
So all you Xzar fans this is what you need. By the way is the Helm available for use in BG2?

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Midget Gems:
Instead we get that joke item the Girdle of Male/Female swopping, which is so silly I can remember it's name.<hr></blockquote>

I gave that to Imoen in the hopes that she'd be more fun, but she still had a female voice and such. What a rip off.

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Midget Gems:
So all you Xzar fans this is what you need. By the way is the Helm available for use in BG2?<hr></blockquote>

I like Xzar the way he is. It is a real shame he's not in BG2...

Oops - sorry I forgot a Mage can't use a Helm, but there are still some interesting combinations, if only we were allowed to have it early in the game.

I dont think montaron is much of a fighter, he is a great thief though. I used him to hide in shadows and backstab all the bandits in bandit camp while we were allys. Xzar is awesome! Hes kinda funny 2. Hes a great mage as soon as he ws lvl 4,for me.