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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Yoshimo won't stay with the party Imoen dual-classed to mage. Will her skills be good enough? Nalia is essentially a mage who can shoot a bow Jan is chaotic neutral What do you do? [ 11-13-2003, 10:02 PM: Message edited by: HolyWarrior ] |
Even though he is chaotic neutral I think Jan fits well enough into an otherwise good party. He might be irresponsible, but he is never malicious.
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As someone who mostly plays "all-good" parties, I can truly say I use Imoen as my thief. The main things you need to a thief for is to open locks and disarm traps; the rest is just bonus material (though some would argue that backstabbing is vital, I have rarely used it in the past, and have finished the game just fine). If you really like backstabbing, consider adding Valygar. While he does not have as large a multiplier on his backstab as a true thief of higher level, he does use a fighter's THACO, allowing him to hit more often than a thief usually does. You are right about Nalia; she is worthless as a thief (without potions, at least).
Imoen will be just fine for your thieving needs, especially if you ride your reputation up to 20 like I usually do (Jan will stay in the party, but you'll have to listen to him gripe the whole time). If you want a thief that you can do everything with (pick pockets, set traps, etc.), you are pretty much stuck with Jan unless you play a thief yourself. |
I generally use Nalia as more of a thief than a mage until Imoen is rescued.
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WELCOME TO IRONWORKS!!! She is passable as a thief, with help (i.e. potions or boosting items). This is especially true if you go get Imoen back ASAP; you can afford not to open some stuff temporarily until you swing back after getting Imoen. But there is no way I would use her as a thief for any longer than I had to (i.e. if I had no other thief and was going to get Imoen back pretty quickly). Yoshimo is a perfect fit, mostly due to the plot of the game, until you get Imoen back. [ 11-11-2003, 11:29 PM: Message edited by: Nerull ] |
I know I'm not the one to talk cause I play theif, but I'm going to anyway. In my opinon you shouldn't rely on Immy cause all I ever use her for is a mage... Yoshi can't stay :( so I think you should use Jan (or Nalia, I just randomly picked). In my party I am the thief, it is good not to have to depend on anybody.
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Whenever I need a thief in this game, I find myself either making the PC a thief or using the multiplayer option to make a second PC for a thief. The choices in this game stink compared to BG1. The four NPC thieves in BG2 don't entirely work for me. Only one is a pureclass thief. The multiclassed one takes FOREVER to get useful. And the dual-classed princesses have laughable mage skills. I had Nalia under the influence of two Master Thievery potions in order for her to be useable, much less useful. Are any modders listening? Here are some NPCs I'd like to see: --a skald romance --a witty, wild swashbuckler --a wild mage (ToB only) --a wizard slayer Things this game should have, but doesn't. [/rant] |
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JAN JAN JAN : Hes Cool hes good as a thief(Hes the on that reminds me most of a thief Selling illegal and that ^^)I yust LOVE him.Hes quit good too,A quit good thief whit good Thief equipment (Hes own goodies)and he can yuse MI+SS+More good deffensiv spells,you dount nessesary need to hawe deffenseiv spells on him you can go whit offensiv assvel.Joshi : quit good but hes not trough out the hole game (SUX) Imoen : If your like me you do the most questes BEFOR you get her so she wont play a big matter in the game (Unless you rush trough and do the Side questes in athletic on Chapter 6,But that is going to be hard in the underdark whitout good levels) Nalia : You know you know now need to explain whye you dount need her in party.So i think you should go for Jan the best thief that is whit the hole game.Jan Jan Jan Jan Jan Jan Jan Jan Jan Jan (yust had to say that).
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Jan is a FAR more effective choice, though... right off the bat he's a fantastic thief at pretty much anything except stealth and trapsetting, and his bonus spells from being an Illusionist are handy also. Also, don't underestimate his Detect Illusions skill. Also, after experiencing Jan's side quests, I think he definitely belongs much more in a good party than an evil one. In my current party, I've decided to simply keep Yoshimo up to Spellhold, and swap Imoen in at that point. If you haven't done it that way at least once, you should. [ 11-12-2003, 12:09 PM: Message edited by: Klutz ] |
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I use Jan Jansen. He`s funny and damn versatile in ToB.(Would you like a Turnip my good friend? :D ) ADD] About his armor. You must remember something so *GASP*: Note:Dryclean only :D [ 11-13-2003, 04:12 AM: Message edited by: Xen ] |
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I like imoen... Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale, A tale of a fateful trip, That started from old Candlekeep, with Gorion (and his aching hip). The rogue was a mighty cutie pie, The Charname brave and sure, Six Adventurers set forth that day, For a four game tour, a four game tour. The Iron Throne started getting tough, Poor Gorion got tossed. If not for the courage of the fearless group, The Franchise would be lost, the Franchise would be lost. The party came to Beregost, with hardly a gold to their name, With IMOEN, Charname too, Henpecked Khalid and his wife, Viconia deVir, Uncle Quayle and Minsc (and Boo!) are here on Baldur's-Gate-by-Black-Isle!!! ;) |
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OH! That was terrible! <font size=5 color=red>Do It Again! :D :D :D </font> (Did you write that? Did you! Did you? :slaps Userunfriendly with a trout [img]graemlins/troutslap.gif[/img] ) |
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OH! That was terrible! <font size=5 color=red>Do It Again! :D :D :D </font> (Did you write that? Did you! Did you? :slaps Userunfriendly with a trout [img]graemlins/troutslap.gif[/img] ) </font>[/QUOTE]OWWWW!!! those fish hurt!!! I live in seattle, so i've seen the fish flingers at the pike place market, and those fish are very very big and heavy!!! yep, it was me...I am actually guilty of writing many many fanfiction songs...here's one of my favorite... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Vegetarian Rhapsody Words and music by Freddie Mercury, adapted by Userunfriendly Is this the real life- Is this just an RPG- Caught in Athkatla- My escape from reality- Turn on your monitor Look at your screen and see- A gnome just getting by,he needs no sympathy- Because turnips come,turnips go, Profits high,profits low, If I sell these turnips,doesn't really matter to me, To me Mama,I won't bribe the man, Trax is out of his head, No selling Bruiser Mates, (he said) Mama, career had just begun, But now I've gone and thrown it all away- Mama ooo, Didn't mean to make you cry- If I'm jailed again this time tomorrow- Carry on,carry on, nothing really matters- Too late, my time has come, Trax caught me just this time- He is such a sticky slime, Goodbye everybody-I've got to go- Uncles, Cousins, nephews, and nieces all Mama ooo- (I think this really blows) I don't want to go, Maybe I should have bribed old Trax after all- I see a little silhouetto of a gnome, CrunchyTurnips, CrunchyTurnips, juices running down his chin- Jailcell and lockup-very very frightening me- ChildofBhaal,ChildofBhaal, ChildofBhaal,ChildofBhaal, ChildofBhaal, help me so-Magnifico!!! But I'm just a poor boy and nobody loves me- He's just a poor boy from a gnomish family- Spare him his life from this travesty- Easy come easy go-,will you let me go- DamnyouJan! No-,we will not let you go-let him go- DamnyouJan! We will not let you go-let him go DamnyouJan! We will not let you go-let me go Will not let you go-let me go Will not let you go let me go No,no,no,no,no,no,no- Mama mia,mama mia,mama mia let me go- StinkyTrax has a jailcell put aside for me, for me, for me- So you think you can jail me and spit in my eye- So you think you can jail me and leave me to die- Oh Traxy-Can't do this to me Traxy- Just gotta get out-just gotta get right outta here- Nothing really matters, Anyone can see, Nothing really matters-,nothing really matters to me, I think this really blows.... --------------------------------------------------- http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=131487 for your sing along pleasure... http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=131487 this one sings really well!!! [ 11-13-2003, 10:36 PM: Message edited by: Userunfriendly ] |
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Userunfriendly, that RULES. On a somewhat-related note, some of our local branches of the Society for Creative Anachronisms are putting together some material for a fundraising CD, and since I was lucky enough to win the Shire of Shittimwoode's 1st annual Bardic Tournament this summer, I'm probably going to be in it. I'm working on "I Am the Very Model of a Modern SCAdian," but have you any objections to hearing "Vegetarian Rhapsody" on there as well? (Provided, of course, that A) I can find some backup performers B) The muckety-mucks in charge would want a Baldur's Gate song on there C) The CD isn't already filled with more "legitimate" filks & actual authentic works and D) I can find a copy of how Queen sang it [as all I have right now is the Weird Al version].) |
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That link i accidentally posted twice??? its the link to a flash movie complete with vocals and lyrics... and since you're doing a gilbert and sullivan piece... ------------------------------------------------------- The Party: He remains a Turnip Gnome! Saravok: He remains a Turnip Gnome! For he himself has said it, And it's greatly to his credit, That he remains a Turnip Gnome! The Party: That he remains a Turnip Gnome! Saravok: For he might have eaten a radish, A onion, or carrot, or cabbage, Or perhaps some summer squash! The Party: Or perhaps some summer squash! Saravok:But in spite of all temptations To eat other taste sensations, He remains a Turnip Gnome! He remains a Turnip Gnome! The Party: For in spite of all temptations To eat other taste sensations, He remains a Turnip Gnome! He remains a Turnip Gnome! saravok: Damn you Jan Jansen...ever since you had to cast that spell in the wild surge room at Watchers Keep, I keep breaking into song!!! I've fought as a foot soldier at the height of the Blood War, I've almost ignited a confligration that would have consumed the entire Sword Coast, yet to my second dying day, the most horrific memory I'll have is singing in the shower "I'm going to wash that taint right out of my hair" while Charname was giggling like a dememted loon waiting for his turn... Jan: Well, Savvy, just think of it as practicing your singing voice! Saravok: SNARL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.gamejag.com./index.php?na...b65ba64a2e7ca7 edgar did a wonderful modern general version... weyoun i think did the best version... http://gamejag.com/index.php?name=PN...wtopic&t=71394 I tend to do more like this... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ He's creepy and he's kooky, And Monty's short and spooky, They're not altogether Ook-ay, The Xzar's Family. His obession's to create a golem. Cause zombies are beginning to bore him. Zombie heads wobble when you bowl-em, The Xzar's Family. Neat Sweet Petite So if you want a custom zombie, and you don't want to order from Abercrombie's, Just avoid mentioning the BUNNIES, while you're with Xzar's Family. [ 11-14-2003, 01:06 AM: Message edited by: Userunfriendly ] |
My favorite are the naughty ones..
----------------------------------------------- Jan Jansen: Oh, woe is me, I hate my life! Bugger this pitiful life of mine, as a thief-illusionist! Sod it! I want to be a....a....Paladin! Jan Jansen: Oh, I'm a Paladin, and I'm okay, I snore all night and I smite all day. Shadow Thieves: He's a Paladin, and he's okay, He snores all night and he smites all day. Jan Jansen: I smite stinky orcs, I eat my lunch, I go to the Outhouse. If I'm out in the wide wilderness, I just use a furry mouse. Shadow Thieves: He smites stinky orcs, he eats his lunch, He goes to the Outhouse. If he's out in the wide wilderness, He just uses a furry mouse. Jan Jansen: I smite stinky orcs, I skip and jump, I like to polish my stuff. I put on ladies's clothing, And watch other knights scream and huff. Shadow Thieves: He smites stinky orcs, he skips and jumps, He likes to polish his stuff. He puts on women's clothing And watch other knights scream and huff??????? Jan Jansen: I smite stinky orcs, I wear high heels, Panties and a bra. I wish I'd been a girlie Just like my dear papa. Shadow Thieves: He smites stinky orcs, he wears high heels Panties and a .... a Bra???? Aerie(crying): I thought you were so rugged! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- i've written a few serious ones, a sad one...;( -------------------------------------------------------------------------- He's a real Nature's Man, Sitting in his jailcell and, Making all his balanced plans for Druid's Grove. Believes in a balanced point of view, Knows not what Logain's going to do, He's not a bit like you and me! Nature's Man, please listen, You left your wife, without even a kissing, Nature's Man, the world doesn't revolve at your command. He's as blind as he can be, Doesn't see his real responsibility, Nature's Man can't you see your family at all? A balanced point of view, No time for a family where he's going to, He's not a bit like you and me! Nowhere Man, you're sorry, Take your time, don't hurry, Leave it all till somebody else fixes your mess. He's a real Nature's Man, Sitting in his jailcell and, Making all his balanced plans for Druid's Grove. |
Post something *cough* original! *cough* Quit recycling! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
(from "Radiant Heart and the Holy Grail") -------- scene 3 - on a grassy meadow, the site of some forgotten war -------- (The action cuts back to Mazzy and Valygar as they traverse a wide open meadow. Valygar still follows Mazzy, banging his coconuts together.) VALYGAR: Why is it always about my coconuts? (The silly actors are not supposed to be reading the scene descriptions. Anyway, Valygar still ba--still makes hoofbeat sounds and Mazzy still rides a "horse.") (Mazzy spots a figure in the middle ground, slows, "dismounts", and approaches.) MAZZY: Old woman! COMPTON: Man! MAZZY: Terribly sorry. That castle there, in the distance, what knight lives there? COMPTON: I'm only twenty-seven. MAZZY: What? COMPTON: I'm twenty-seven years old. You call me an old man, but seeing as you are a halfling, you could very well be older than I am! MAZZY: What do I call you then? 'Man'? COMPTON: Well, you could say 'Compton'. MAZZY: I knew not that your name was Compton. COMPTON: (high sarcasm) That's okay. Nobody ever remembers my name. I tell them my name and it's all about "Kelsey, Kelsey, Kelsey." MAZZY: (embarrassed) I apologize, but from the back you looked like-- COMPTON: --and everyone expects me to look like Kelsey and everyone expects me to talk like Kelsey and every time that blasted knight is mentioned people expect me to have an opinion about it exactly like Kelsey and-- MAZZY: Which knight? COMPTON: Oh, the knight, the one that originally came with the software, the only romance for the ladies, and here I get this bright idea one day, maybe offer up another hunk of meat to satiate the ladies, and what do I get? "Make Kelsey talk dirty." "Make Kelsey sing a song." "Make Kelsey flirt in the Underdark." Kelsey, Kelsey, Kelsey, all bloody day and all bloody night long too! Sooner or later the world will realize that-- GHREYFAIN: (popping up from the field behind Compton) Dude! Ever thought about giving Kelsey a foot fetish? (spots Mazzy) Oh--hi there. Is there something I can do for you? MAZZY: How do you do, good sir. I am Mazzy Fentan, a valiant servant of justice and righteousness. Who's castle is that? GHREYFAIN: Servant of who? MAZZY: Justice and righteousness. GHREYFAIN: I don't remember modding that. (pokes Compton) You remember modding that? MAZZY: What is this 'modding' of which you speak? GHREYFAIN: I know I didn't write any "justice and righteousness" nonsense into the code. COMPTON: Couldn't have been me. My life has been nothing but Kelsey, day in, day out, week after week, month after month, year after year-- GHREYFAIN: Oh there you go, bringing Kelsey into it again. COMPTON: If only people realized that-- MAZZY: (stepping between the two) Calm yourselves, gentlemen. Please, who lives in that castle? GHREYFAIN: No one. MAZZY: No one? GHREYFAIN: We haven't scripted it yet. MAZZY: What? COMPTON: See, we only had time to create the castle area and script it into the game. We haven't had time to fill it yet. MAZZY: (totally lost) Yes. COMPTON: When we get around to it, we'll code some items and people and maybe a shopkeeper inside, and make some custom items so parties will actually visit the castle. MAZZY: (impatient) Yes, I see. COMPTON: And after that we'll loop in some dialogue and maybe a background soundtrack, and then-- MAZZY: Hush! COMPTON: --after that we'll send the whole kit and caboodle off to the beta testers-- MAZZY: Quiet! I order you to be quiet! GHREYFAIN: You, ordering us? (to Compton) Who does she think she is, anyway? MAZZY: I am a member of the Noble Order of the Most Radiant Heart! GHREYFAIN: (to Compton) Is this the Anomen you keep whining about? COMPTON: (sourly) No, and nobody can romance halflings anyway. It's in the code. GHREYFAIN: (to Mazzy) I can't remember--did we write you in as a knight? MAZZY: No. The Trueswords [insert heavenly chorus singing] in traditions and rituals ancient and mystic, held forth this sword of Arvoreen (holds up sword) and their coat of arms and proclaimed to the skies that I, Mazzy Fentan, was to be a Truesword in the service of Arvoreen. [chorus ends] That is why I am here. COMPTON: Listen -- I'd never mod something so cheesy in my life. What is this, cowl-wearing prettyboys strutting around with sharp objects waiting for the right midget? Good storylines come from twists of fate and basic human interest, not some hackneyed cliche. MAZZY: Be quiet! COMPTON: Why, any pompous do-gooder could hand me a butterknife like that and I could call myself a Truesword or whatever except that I wouldn't because it's stupid. MAZZY: Shut up! COMPTON: I mean, if I went around saying I was a Knight of Whatever just because some weak-kneed wacko lobbed a scimitar at me they'd put me away! (A strange man appears out of nowhere and lobs a scimitar at Compton's head.) HABIB: Ha! My name is Habib Achmed Khalid Allafif, and I cannot be captured! I will throw my mighty scimitar at your head rather than suffer the indignity of--UURK! (A drow on horseback appears. The horse has 'Deus Ex Machina' printed on its rump. The drow slices Habib open with a sparkly sword.) WEIMER: I can't believe this guy won the 'Create-a-NPC' contest. GHREYFEIN: Dude! COMPTON: Nice job there. See you at the next committee meeting. WEIMER: Right. (Weimer and his horse disappear as suddenly as they appeared.) COMPTON: Ah, that Weimer. Weimer did this, and Weimer did that, and Weimer did some damned other thing. Weimer smote the ground with his magical compiling skills, and there sprung Solaufein, fully mature and on his horse. Then Weimer, Solaufein, and the horse, went on to found the modding community all by there lonesomes! But nobody remembers us, do they? Oh, no, all they think about is Weimer and Solaufein and Kelsey, Kelsey, Kelsey-- MAZZY: Shut up! Will you shut up! (Mazzy starts beating up on Compton. Well, Compton's kneecaps. Mazzy's short.) COMPTON: Um, help? Help, help, I'm being attacked? MAZZY: Shut up! (pounds away) COMPTON: Please help me, there's some looney halfling beating on my knees! (Mazzy gets wise to the situation. The resulting SPLAT causes even Valygar to wince in pain. Ghreyfein laughs, but his laughter is cut short when he too suffers the same fate. Valygar can't stop giggling and he too is next. Soon, all three males are doubled over, clutching sensitive areas, and whimpering. Satisfied, Mazzy climbs back on her horse, and departs.) GHREYFEIN: (to Compton) Some looney beating on your knees, indeed. COMPTON: Those fists...they look small but they're heavy as coconuts, let me tell you. VALYGAR: Why won't people stop talking about my coconuts?! (pause) COMPTON: Um, did we mod that? |
I loved that one!!!
did you write another one??? oh comeon, you have to do the witch=viconia one...i know you can do it... and yes, we are all guilty of recycling stuff...i rather think of it as inflicting my stories and songs on an unsuspecting and defenseless new audience...hehhehehhehehhe!!!!!!!!! |
Rather anticlimactic after Pirengle's Scene 3, but I just figured all the BG filks should be in the same thread.
DESUMA MALEVOIS: I am a very model of a modern Aerie devotee, I'm asinine, fanatical, and handsome as a mantee, I've proclaimed Aerie's virtues all from here to Minneapolis, So why do all my friends say that I'm acting like a ja-ack-aaass? SIXOFSPADES: It's true that what you say is quite correct, though somewhat slanderous; The flaws of this winged Elf are both consistent and quite ponderous, Yet all those who support her have some valid points of view to hold In favor of this boring, ditzy, anorexic twelve-year-old. Her Wisdom and Intelligence are quite high, for one so naive, A skillful Mage and spellcaster, she causes enemies to grieve, But if she claims to know the ways and means to cast all sorts of things, Why does she simply not cast Wish, so that she could grow back her wiinnnggggs? Her comments are monotonous and show no backbone, guts or brains, Her talk of insecurity's a never-ending, dull refrain, We go into a mine and then she quickly starts to whine and tell Me "Being underground is simply not for the Avariel!" |
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--------------------------------------- Attack of the Gnome eating Turnips! Attack of the Gnome eating Turnips! From the Jansen's lab come forth each week The pallid monsters of which we speak Except when he has to take a leak! Turnips, Turnips! Oh, isn't it pityticing Turnips eating the city Can no-one stop these mutant veggies Gnomes keep hiding behind the heggies! Can Jan ever stop those idiotic stories? "Attack of the Gnome eating Turnips! Attack of the Gnome eating Turnips! They'll beat you, bash you, squish you, mash you They'll grab a gnome by the legs And bite his head off, OH SMEG! They're marching down the slums Grabbing gnomish children, pappys and mums They're pallid, pale, hairy, scary Crunchy to the core They're standing just outside your door! Remember my cousin Beloo While using his outdoor loo He turned around and he did see Turnips hiding in his tree Now he's just a memory! I know I'm going to miss him A turnip bit my sister once Athkatla today was lost They're marching on Beregost The Turnips are on their way! Jan woke up screaming in pure terror. The rest of the party jumped up out of their bedrolls, weapons ready, while the last watch rapidly scanned the surrounding woods for any hint of danger. After everyone looked at Jan, saw him covered in cold sweat, and trembling violently, they realized he had a nightmare, and stood down. Aerie grabbed him in a hug, and asked quietly in a gentle voice what was the matter. After everyone heard his stammering description of a dream where giant mutated vegetables had come to eat him, while singing an evil song, laughter filled the clearing where the party had settled down for the night. Aerie moved her bedroll closer to Jan while he settled down back to sleep.The next day, Aerie was astonished to find Jan awake and munching on two turnips at once, each hand clenched around the leafy stalk. "Urm, Jan, I'd thought you wouldn't be able to look at another turnip for a while, after last night's dream???" she enquired. "Pre-emeptive strike, my dear child!" he mumbled around a mouth full of the crunchy veggie. Of course, the party didn't find it nearly as funny the next week when they visited the Jansen home in the slums and had an encounter with the Turnip Golem... ----------------------------------------------------- some more queen... The songs parodied here are "We will rock you" by queen, and "Green Acres"....a most unusual combination, but it works... --------------------------------------------------------------- Sir Anomen Delryn stepped out from the back curtain, stripped to the waist, and wearing a pair of black leather pants at least two sizes too small for him. Three Knights of the Order of the Radient Heart followed, also stripped to the waist, and wearing armored greaves and boots. The shaved torsos of the knights glistened in the bright light of the midday sun, due to the layer of oil rubbed on their bodies. Sir Keldorn Firkam, almost unrecognizable in jet black armor, studded with spikes, ran a fingering on his Weave-amplified black base guitar, the instrument snarling as feedback and distortion amplified sound filled the auditorium. His fingers literally blurred with speed, as a incredibly complex and driving beat of the melody poured out of the smokin' instrument. Sir Ryan Trawl sat behind him, wearing matching black spiked armor, twin drumsticks wielded like weapons as he thrashed out a complex tattoo on the full drumset surrounding him. The crowd of young men and women went wild with excitement. The back up singers began pounding out a strong beat, as Sir Anomen stepped up to the microphone. The beat went "dum, dum, DUM!!! dum, dum, DUM!!!" as the backup singers used their steel boots to drive the sound to the audience. Everyone clapped out the beat in unison as Anomen began singing. Buddy you're a smelly orc Stinky yucky groady breath to make a billy goat turn gray Get yer head from my face You skunky disgrace We'll be kickin' your can all over the place Singin' 'We will we will SMITE you!!!(dum, dum, DUM!!!) We will we will SMITE you!!!(dum, dum, DUM!!!) Buddy you're ugly troll Spurting dripping goo-filled oozing makes me puke all day You got slime on yo' face You puffy disgrace Wavin' your flabby claws all over the place 'We will we will SMITE you!!!(dum, dum, DUM!!!) Singin' 'We will we will SMITE you!!!(dum, dum, DUM!!!) Buddy you're a yippin gnoll Barking yapping yodeling snapping annoying me I say You got drool on your face You noisy disgrace The Order's gonna put you back into your place 'We will we will SMITE you'(dum, dum, DUM!!!) Singin' 'We will we will SMITE you'(dum, dum, DUM!!!) Everybody! 'We will we will SMITE you'(dum, dum, DUM!!!) 'We will we will SMITE you'(dum, dum, DUM!!!) Alright!!! Sir Keldorn finished with an incredibly complex and rocking guitar solo that brought the house down in applause as the knights bowed to the wildly cheering audience, and the curtain closed for the next act. Aerie handed Anomen a big mug of cold wine as he joined them backstage. "Good number! They're still clapping! I never knew you had musical talent, Sir Anomen!" said Nalia enthusiastically. "Well, I was in the order's glee clubs and barbershop quartets during my noviciate, however..." Anomen fell silent as the curtain opened on the next act. Three people stepped out, and a frolicking melody began to play as the singers took their place. One was obviously dressed up in an oafish version of the Amnish guard uniform, with a dented breastplate, and a bent sword in his hand. The next one was obviously Aran Linvale, his expensive and immaculately tasteful clothing fitting him perfectly. A sartorial masterpiece. The third was a half elven girl, dressed in sleek black leathers. She did a series of dazzlingly skilled martial arts kata's, doing high kicks, flurrys of punches into the air, and generally showing off. They started singing to the spritely tune. Shadow Thief: Shadow Thieves be the place for me. Picking pockets is the life that's free. Sheep spread out so far and wide Nimble fingers and you'll be fleecing them citywide. Amnish Guard: The guard is where you'd rather stay. Steel Armor for you to shine all day. You don't ever want the jailhouse view. Rotting in prison will make you really blue. Shadow Thief and Amnish Guard: ...The pockets. ...The dockets. ...Thieves lair. ...Lawbreaker beware. Aran: I run the council of six. Amnish Guard: This really just sticks! All together: Shadow Thieves we are there. Sir Keldorn joined them, having obviously taken a long time to remove his hot armor. "I HATE career day!" he said as he looked at the class of 1389, as they clapped even louder for the funny comedy skit of the Shadow Thieves. Sir Anomen nodded vigorously. --------------------------------------------------- I've killed my orcs Time after time I've even whacked Drizzt But committed no crime And bad mistakes I've made a few I've had my share of quests Explode in my face But I've come through And I need to go on and on and on and on We are the champions - my friends And we'll fight Amelissan at the very end We are the champions We are the champions No time for turnips 'Cause we are the champions of the Throne I've shot my bows And cast my spells You've bought me riddles and quests And everything that goes with it I thank you all But it's been no bed of turnips no breakfast plate I consider it a challenge before the whole sword coast And I ain't gonna lose And I need to go on and on and on and on We are the champions - my friends And we'll fight Amelissan at the very end We are the champions We are the champions No time for turnips 'Cause we are the champions of the Throne We are the champions - my friends And we'll fight Amelissan at the very end We are the champions We are the champions No time for turnips 'Cause we are the champions of the Throne |
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But, since the chance of BG filks being recorded on an official SCA album is rather slim, the songs might very well be recoded under some other aegis, in which case would probably be completely right and proper to post them on the Net, especially in a BG2 forum. Time will tell. |
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But, since the chance of BG filks being recorded on an official SCA album is rather slim, the songs might very well be recoded under some other aegis, in which case would probably be completely right and proper to post them on the Net, especially in a BG2 forum. Time will tell. </font>[/QUOTE]urm...nope, don't want to hear whole cd, just my song...kinda selfish that way.... ;) ;) ;) |
You COULD use a good aligned cleric (Aerie, Anomen, you) to find traps then use a bard (Haer'Dalis, you) to do the thieving ability on either a locked thing or a trap. I'm not sure if Bards can disarm traps but they can open locks and pickpocket. Although Haer'Dalis is Chaotic Neutral, he is a very good-at-heart person who will leave at a bad reputation. I'm not sure if Jan leaves at a bad reputation, which means that overall Haer'Dalis is nicer.
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Well, for THIS game I decided to use Yoshimo until Spellhold.
Imoen w/Boots of Stealth and the Mercykiller Ring should be decent enough for thieving without using too many potions. |
You should use Imoen or Jan...
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Imoen is not a good thief. She is at good finding traps and opening doors. she was good in the frist one but duel classing her ruined her. They need a pure thief in the game. you are best playing one your self. everything eles is covered. lots of picks for fighters and mages and cleric. The one thing that really burns me about this game is lack of a good thief
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Imoen is actually a decent Thief; if you shop around for the best gear, she will quite literally be all the Thief that you'll ever need. Okay, so her Set Traps score is capped at 25%, and she can't Detect Illusions at all--so what? You don't need Traps anyway (and Skull Trap & Delayed Blast Fireball can do pretty much the same thing), she's got spells like Oracle and True Sight, etc. Her Steath abilites aren't really reliable, but hey, there's always Invisibility. You want dependable Stealth anytime you need it? You want a Backstabber? Recruit Valygar. Or maybe you were confusing Imoen with Nalia. [img]smile.gif[/img] |
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Imoen is actually a decent Thief; if you shop around for the best gear, she will quite literally be all the Thief that you'll ever need. Okay, so her Set Traps score is capped at 25%, and she can't Detect Illusions at all--so what? You don't need Traps anyway (and Skull Trap & Delayed Blast Fireball can do pretty much the same thing), she's got spells like Oracle and True Sight, etc. Her Steath abilites aren't really reliable, but hey, there's always Invisibility. You want dependable Stealth anytime you need it? You want a Backstabber? Recruit Valygar. Or maybe you were confusing Imoen with Nalia. [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]urg...nalia is a worse thief..like a lot worse..sigh...you need significant potion stock to overcome her low thief scores...which makes sense, since her str is higher so she can carry around the extra potions... i've taken sis thru several run thru-s...she literally is all the thief you ever need..just some potions when you want to pickpocket someone, and you're set. |
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(Speaking of pet peeves, there are times I really wish the person who started the thread would post some sort of "thank you" so we wouldn't be handing out advice for two months. But, like everyone else's gripes, it just ain't gonna happen. [img]tongue.gif[/img] ) |
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She is a decent thief. but if she was a pure thief she would be much better.
at 13th level with a gridle of hill gaint and cutthroat a backstab would do 1d6x5+11 damge enough to kill most mages with one hit. with a high MS and HS. u could sneak in and take out thier mage befor the battle even starts. put boots of speed on her and she could run out of battle and duck back into the shadows and come back around for another backstab. u can use spells and potions but they are not as good as the real thing. Also with viper armor on u can get your ac down to -6 Sorry to drag this out. |
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