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Xzirox 10-16-2003 03:40 PM

Anyone have any tips on how to beat Kangaxx the Demi Lich??

Xen 10-16-2003 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by Xzirox:
Anyone have any tips on how to beat Kangaxx the Demi Lich??
Too many! [img]tongue.gif[/img] If you do a Search on Kangaxx you would be surprised...


Anyhow... you need a +4 weapon to hurt his Demi-Lich form. Tonuge Flame +1 from Druid Grove works well beacuse it is a +4 weapon VS Undead. Also Mace Of Disrutpion +2 makes wonder becuase it is a +5 weapon and if he falis his safe... poof and he is gone. He is immune to spells from level 1 to 9 when he is a Demi-Lich and 1-5 when a Lich. Spell Immunity:Abjuration and Enrage will protect you from his Imprisonment. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 10-16-2003, 03:47 PM: Message edited by: Xen ]

Xzirox 10-16-2003 03:48 PM

thx I needed that......cant belive how a demi lich can be that powerfull to vanquish my whole party in 5 min [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Zuvio 10-16-2003 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by Xzirox:
thx I needed that......cant belive how a demi lich can be that powerfull to vanquish my whole party in 5 min [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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That's because you didn't read Xen's post before [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Honestly, once you figure out what to do (or ask in your case) the demi-lich just becomes an annoying kobold that's hard to kill :D
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Xzirox 10-16-2003 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by Zuvio:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Xzirox:
thx I needed that......cant belive how a demi lich can be that powerfull to vanquish my whole party in 5 min [img]tongue.gif[/img]

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That's because you didn't read Xen's post before [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Honestly, once you figure out what to do (or ask in your case) the demi-lich just becomes an annoying kobold that's hard to kill :D
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</font>[/QUOTE]Well thats one way to see it i guess.........but only if your name is Zuvio [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Firestormalpha 10-16-2003 04:00 PM

Zuvio, the constantly decreasing number of party members all factors in slightly for this scenario. Unless you use a certain scroll of cheese.

Xen 10-16-2003 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by Firestormalpha:
Zuvio, the constantly decreasing number of party members all factors in slightly for this scenario. Unless you use a certain scroll of cheese.
Or a protection from Magic Scroll. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Firestormalpha 10-16-2003 04:06 PM

Xen I thought it was already proven that protection from magic scrolls don't work due to Kangaxx's Imprisonment working like a natural ability.

Xen 10-16-2003 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by Firestormalpha:
Xen I thought it was already proven that protection from magic scrolls don't work due to Kangaxx's Imprisonment working like a natural ability.
Imprisonment igoners MR but it helps... Scroll of Protection from Magic+Enraged Berserker...where did Kangy go?

Xzirox 10-16-2003 04:10 PM

It didnt work for me......seems that I need a cheesier scroll 8D

Firestormalpha 10-16-2003 04:14 PM

Xen the Protection from magic kept his general offense spells from killing you. The enrage kept you from the imprisonment.

Xzirox 10-16-2003 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by Firestormalpha:
Xen the Protection from magic kept his general offense spells from killing you. The enrage kept you from the imprisonment.
clone a couple of Minsc's and you should survive just fine :D :D :D


exept that then I need really cheesy scrolls to be able to do that :/

JrKASperov 10-17-2003 01:52 AM

Prot from magic also protects from imprisonment. Why you ask? Cause prot from amgic protects not in a percentual way, but in a protection from spell level way. This makes you REALLY immune to all spells, even when they cast lower resistance on you. And you can say it's an ability, sure, but it surely is a magical ability, and the sphere protects from everything magical, except weapons.

BaRoN NiGhT 10-17-2003 04:20 AM

<font color="cc0099">Try doing PI and then summon 10 mordenkenian's sword and attack the demi-lich. The sword's a +4.</font>

Tookish 10-17-2003 05:39 AM

heh kanga...

i remembered the countless reloads when doing his quest. Good luck surviving his 2 forms LOL!

i remember each time he was 'near death' in lich form he always takes 2 party members down with him, then he turns into demi-lich.

but his loot is pretty uber and if im not wrong...u can exploit the fact that u can PP him one point in time too *wink*

Xzirox 10-17-2003 06:15 AM

he's still beating the crap out of me but I'm getting closer and closer.....thx for the tips ;)

Daniel_M 10-17-2003 08:21 AM

You can also use a protection from undead scroll I believe, he just stands there like a dummy while you pummel him with the mace of disruption [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[ 10-17-2003, 08:21 AM: Message edited by: Daniel_M ]

Zuvio 10-17-2003 07:14 PM

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This is definitely one of those fights where having less members (2 max.) also means having a less intensive workout [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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Assassin 10-17-2003 10:47 PM

I thought that Minsc's Beserk doesn't protect him from Imprisonment, only Korgan's... Ah well. Anyways, the two keys to killing Kangaxx the Demi-Lich are both within the confines of the Adventurers Mart, if you're willing to eat a bit of cheese with it...

It's Vhalior's Helm and a scroll of Protection from Magic. Cast Simulacrum, use the Simulacrum to cast the scroll on someone with the Mace of Disruption +2, and good-bye Kangaxx. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Userunfriendly 10-17-2003 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by Assassin:
I thought that Minsc's Beserk doesn't protect him from Imprisonment, only Korgan's... Ah well. Anyways, the two keys to killing Kangaxx the Demi-Lich are both within the confines of the Adventurers Mart, if you're willing to eat a bit of cheese with it...

It's Vhalior's Helm and a scroll of Protection from Magic. Cast Simulacrum, use the Simulacrum to cast the scroll on someone with the Mace of Disruption +2, and good-bye Kangaxx. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

and if you feel really really really cheesy...

ast-cay he-tay croll-say on angy-kay... ;)

Zarr 10-18-2003 08:52 AM

Just for the record Minsc's beserk rage doesn't protect form imprisionment :(
Barbarian's don't also, but beserker's does.

I tried using Minsc's unsucessfully in my first run through the game a long time ago... And JKrASparov and Xen are correct protection from magic scrolls do protect form Kangaxx's imprisionment. [img]smile.gif[/img] That's the tactic I use myself.

Xzirox 10-18-2003 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by Zarr:
Just for the record Minsc's beserk rage doesn't protect form imprisionment :(
Barbarian's don't also, but beserker's does.

I tried using Minsc's unsucessfully in my first run through the game a long time ago... And JKrASparov and Xen are correct protection from magic scrolls do protect form Kangaxx's imprisionment. [img]smile.gif[/img] That's the tactic I use myself.

Well I finally kicked his ass (YAY FINALLY :D :D :D ) but only thx to Minsc and his berserk rage so that must mean that his rage DOES protect from imprisionment since he tried to imprission misc several times, unsuccesfully =/........

Xen 10-18-2003 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by Xzirox:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Zarr:
Just for the record Minsc's beserk rage doesn't protect form imprisionment :(
Barbarian's don't also, but beserker's does.

I tried using Minsc's unsucessfully in my first run through the game a long time ago... And JKrASparov and Xen are correct protection from magic scrolls do protect form Kangaxx's imprisionment. [img]smile.gif[/img] That's the tactic I use myself.

Well I finally kicked his ass (YAY FINALLY :D :D :D ) but only thx to Minsc and his berserk rage so that must mean that his rage DOES protect from imprisionment since he tried to imprission misc several times, unsuccesfully =/........ </font>[/QUOTE]Probably a bug. He is a <u>Ranger.</u> His Beserk does not protect from Imprisonment. Korgan is a <u>Berserker</u>. His on the other hand,does protect you from it.
Prove me wrong if you can...

[ 10-18-2003, 05:11 PM: Message edited by: Xen ]

SixOfSpades 10-18-2003 11:52 PM

Minsc's Berserking granting/not granting immunity to Imprisonment may simply be a patch/BaldurDash issue, or a "which version of the game do you have" issue.

Userunfriendly 10-19-2003 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
Minsc's Berserking granting/not granting immunity to Imprisonment may simply be a patch/BaldurDash issue, or a "which version of the game do you have" issue.
i think you had mentioned in another post that its related to the demilich script, depending on the patch level will not cast imprisonment if the "state beserk" is active...

SixOfSpades 10-20-2003 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by Userunfriendly:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
Minsc's Berserking granting/not granting immunity to Imprisonment may simply be a patch/BaldurDash issue, or a "which version of the game do you have" issue.

i think you had mentioned in another post that its related to the demilich script, depending on the patch level will not cast imprisonment if the "state beserk" is active... </font>[/QUOTE]That is correct. The DL in WK uses that script, and therefore won't even bother casting Imprisonment on a Berserked Minsc. Kangaxx, however, spits Imprisonments at whoever's standing close to him, and if Minsc happens to be on the front line, then he'll get Imprisoned, whether he's Berserked or not. (Except, apparently, in Xzirox's version of the game.)

SillySorcerer 10-21-2003 02:12 PM

My solo sorcerer is pretty high level now and has no problem with demi-liches. Here's what I do:

Cast Protection from Magical Energy
Cast Spell Reflection
Cast Energy Blades
Enter the Lich's lair
Cast Time Stop
Start throwing energy blades

It's pretty funny to see the amount of damage instantly caused on the lich when the time stop wears off and the energy blades hit him. Usually, it will get him down to "Badly Injured" and another set of energy blades will quickly finish the job.

Xzirox 10-21-2003 02:19 PM

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Originally posted by SillySorcerer:
My solo sorcerer is pretty high level now and has no problem with demi-liches. Here's what I do:

Cast Protection from Magical Energy
Cast Spell Reflection
Cast Energy Blades
Enter the Lich's lair
Cast Time Stop
Start throwing energy blades

It's pretty funny to see the amount of damage instantly caused on the lich when the time stop wears off and the energy blades hit him. Usually, it will get him down to "Badly Injured" and another set of energy blades will quickly finish the job.

Well I have a ranger/archer so that would just be a little hard :D

SillySorcerer 10-21-2003 04:29 PM

Yeah, but you can shoot an arrow at him [img]smile.gif[/img]

Faceman 10-21-2003 05:11 PM

as for the problem with a full party
try to get the gaxx to the upper right corner of the map while he is in his first form and get your whole party except the protected guys (rage, spell immunity,...) to the entrance (=out of sight)
then you can hack away at Mr. Demilich without any problems.

Userunfriendly 10-21-2003 06:07 PM

of course there's always a fun way....

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if you have jan, and he has a few spike traps, plant 6 regular traps where the first form spawns...

then at the end of the walkway, leading up to his spawn point, plant about 6 spike traps, or many delay action fireballs...

initiate dialog, as soon as he turns hostile, the regular traps will kill his first form...then have a char with the ring of ram use it on the skull form...

you're going for a bank shot, like in pool..if the angle is correct, the ring will send him among the spike traps, instantly blotting him out...

much giggling on my part follows..

Faceman 10-22-2003 05:21 AM

If you are high-level enough to have "a few" Spike traps with Jan, Kangaxx should not pose a real problem and can be killed more easily otherwise.

Xzirox 10-22-2003 05:30 AM

Yeah but as I said in a previous post: I allready killed him [img]graemlins/doh.gif[/img]


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