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SillySorcerer 09-24-2003 08:42 AM

I dig the magical teleportation that characters like Irenicus and the Cowled Wizards use to instantly appear/disappear at a location. Is this spell available to the player? Can it be used to travel from one map location to another? What level is this spell?

Zazze 09-24-2003 09:11 AM

Okay that an LVL 11 spell called "STRG+J".
But it´s only availably after the "DebugMode = 1" ritual in "baldurs.ini"-quest.

That for local teleportation
The "Global teleportation"-Spell needs mixture of "^"-buttons cut at fullmoon and the manual of "MoveToArea"

Armen 09-24-2003 09:20 AM

the spell is 'Dimension Door' and you could have it in BG1 but not in BG2

afaik it was removed to prevent you teleporting past plot-critical triggers so you're out of luck

if you just want to play though i have a vague memory of one of the NPC mods having Dimension Door and you might be able to shadowkeeper it in

Zazze 09-24-2003 09:35 AM

The scroll of Dimension Door is
ID: SPWI402

but regarding to my lists, none of the npc knows that spell.

Armen 09-24-2003 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zazze:
but regarding to my lists, none of the npc knows that spell.
i got that from the Solaufein ReadMe: "He can still Dimension Door (don't abuse it!)"

Xen 09-24-2003 09:56 AM

If you have Solaufein in ur party he can teach Edwin Dimension Door spell. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Zazze 09-24-2003 10:10 AM

Who is Solaufein (funny name if you are german) ?

But if you start a new character

Pure mage INT 18

You should have some lvl 4 spells, just select DD.

[ 09-24-2003, 10:12 AM: Message edited by: Zazze ]

Xen 09-24-2003 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zazze:
Who is Solaufein (funny name if you are german) ?
Solaufein is a Drow in the Underdark.

Zazze 09-24-2003 10:26 AM

Ups, sorry Mr.Drow, no no not funny, right not funny, yes Mr.Drow -Sir- indeed not funny, very nice sabres Mr. Dr.......

Devv 09-24-2003 11:28 AM

Dimension Door is a level 4 wizard spell that you can easily shadowkeep in to your characters spell book. You can use the debug mode and add spell or add the scroll too. I made an innate version of the spell by editing the wiazrd version of it that I give to all my characters, casters or not ;) It's a totally cool ability.

To set it up right you might need an editing tool like IEEP from teambg.com. You open up the spell using IEEP and go to "attributes" then tick the box marked "not city". This gives the spell unlimited range, rather than only visual range.

Devv 09-24-2003 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Xen:
If you have Solaufein in ur party he can teach Edwin Dimension Door spell. [img]smile.gif[/img]
How do you teach other characters from your spell list?

SixOfSpades 09-24-2003 02:22 PM

Dimension Door is (was) a Level 4 Alteration spell, available in Baldur's Gate 1. BioWare decided not to include it in Baldur's Gate 2, however, for lots of good reasons:</font>
  • There are several locations in the game that are marked as "triggers." Walking over them will cause a script to run. These scripts could cause any number of things to happen, and BioWare did not want gamers to intentionally avoid any <font color=red>bad</font> things by Dimension Dooring past the triggers.</font>
  • On a similar note, gamers using Dimension Door might accidentally jump over triggers that were supposed to start a critical part of the plot, or supply the player with a key piece of information, or whatever. In a less serious fashion, the player might still step on all the triggers, but in the wrong order.</font>
  • Having characters that can Dimension Door past obstacles at will imposes great restrictions on the people designing the map areas. For instance, in BG1 there is an important bridge that you must cross in order to reach the BG city itself. But that bridge is not open until Chapter 5, because BioWare wanted to make the city off-limits to you until then. But a player with Dimension Door could simply jump directly across the gap in the bridge, thus breaking the plot of the game. (BioWare's solution to this: Scrolls of Dimension Door cannot be obtained before Chapter 5, not even as random drops.)</font>
  • Dimension Door could be used to render melee opponents completely helpless. If you're under seige by enemies with no (or relatively weak) ranged attacks, you could employ the cheesy tactic of Dimension Dooring to a spot inaccessible by foot (such as the outside balcony of Saerk Fahrrad's Estate), and pick off your enemies with spells or missiles at your lesiure, thus abusing a weakness of the IE engine and making the fight completely unrealistic.</font>
There is no way for a legitimate character to use Dimension Door in BG2. It cannot be selected as one of your Starting Spells, as it does not appear on the list. (Amendment: It may just be possible to get DD if you use the "Pick For Me" button. It appears to pick spells at random, and I have heard rumors of non-Wild Mages receiving spells that were supposed to be Wild-Mage only.) It is true that Weimer added Dimension Door to Solaufein's spellbook (or perhaps as an innate ability, one of the two), and I readily understand why. Not only does he Dimension Door constantly while running around in Ust Natha (and it'd be pretty stupid to have him "forget" that spell just because he joined you), but I'm sure we all get *really* tired of being the ONLY people in all of Faerun who can't cast Dimension Door.

Note that although the 4 reasons I listed above, why BioWare denied the players' access to Dimension Door, are all very valid and proper reasons, it is STILL not a cheesy spell. Players can still use it whenever they wish, <u>provided</u> that they understand each of the 4 reasons, and are mature enough not to exploit the spell. This is precisely what Weimer meant when he said "don't abuse it."

Xen 09-24-2003 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Devv:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Xen:
If you have Solaufein in ur party he can teach Edwin Dimension Door spell. [img]smile.gif[/img]

How do you teach other characters from your spell list? </font>[/QUOTE]You can`t but Solaufein can do it. I don`t know how... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[ 09-24-2003, 02:52 PM: Message edited by: Xen ]


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