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Xen 08-17-2003 03:21 PM

I have a question. If a Wizard Slayer uses Sanchuudoku and if an enemy Mage is casting a spell,Acid Backslash will go off. And WS has cumulative spell faliure. So can Acid Backslash itself uses cumulative spell failure?

Gangrell 08-17-2003 03:24 PM

No, it is just a spell in itself but a Wizard Slayer would actually have to hit the target with the weapon to cause the added spell failure IIRC.

Xen 08-17-2003 03:26 PM

Yes I know he must hit the target. But Spell Disruption is his Special Ability and I tought that,that ability goes for Acid Backslash itself too.

Gangrell 08-17-2003 03:28 PM

That really is a perplexing question Xen, though I'm sure that the weapon itself has to have contact. But the cumulative acid backlash itself is enough to cause a spell disruption wouldn't you say?

Xen 08-17-2003 03:56 PM

Yes I know and I like it. Sure it causes Spell Disruption,I was sill wondering. For example if it does causes cumulative Spell Failure would be good. In case if the Wizard Slayer dies.

[ 08-17-2003, 04:01 PM: Message edited by: Xen ]

Gangrell 08-17-2003 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Xen:
In case if the Wizard Slayer dies.
Then that would be a bad thing [img]tongue.gif[/img]

But when using the Acid Katana I would be careful when you use it around wizards. If they have Spell Deflection/Turning up, it'll come right back to you.

Xen 08-17-2003 04:03 PM

I know,i know. But there is Breach. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Gangrell 08-17-2003 04:06 PM

Yes of course, Breach, for the Wizard Slayer/Mage [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Something you spend your life learning to kill, you just become on of them yourself, weird :rolleyes:

Xen 08-17-2003 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gangrell:
Yes of course, Breach, for the Wizard Slayer/Mage [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Something you spend your life learning to kill, you just become on of them yourself, weird :rolleyes:

If one wishes to sucseed in his task,one must overcome his fears. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Gangrell 08-17-2003 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Xen:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Gangrell:
Yes of course, Breach, for the Wizard Slayer/Mage [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Something you spend your life learning to kill, you just become on of them yourself, weird :rolleyes:

If one wishes to sucseed in his task,one must overcome his fears. [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]If one wishes to make a point, one must know how to spell better... ;)

Xen 08-17-2003 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gangrell:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Xen:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Gangrell:
Yes of course, Breach, for the Wizard Slayer/Mage [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Something you spend your life learning to kill, you just become on of them yourself, weird :rolleyes:

If one wishes to sucseed in his task,one must overcome his fears. [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]If one wishes to make a point, one must know how to spell better... ;) </font>[/QUOTE]My spelling is near perfection. What did I write wrong?

[ 08-17-2003, 04:14 PM: Message edited by: Xen ]

Gangrell 08-17-2003 04:16 PM

Succeed, oh crap I'm just becoming that picky [img]graemlins/nono.gif[/img]

Xen 08-17-2003 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gangrell:
Succeed, oh crap I'm just becoming that picky [img]graemlins/nono.gif[/img]
Thanks for the correction. One must always try to be perfect,my young grasseater. :D

Usually I`m the picky arse. :D

JrKASperov 08-17-2003 04:22 PM

Breach wont work on spell deflection or turning. Ruby Ray will work.

Gangrell 08-17-2003 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Xen:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Gangrell:
Succeed, oh crap I'm just becoming that picky [img]graemlins/nono.gif[/img]

Thanks for the correction. One must always try to be perfect,my young grasseater. :D

Usually I`m the picky arse. :D
</font>[/QUOTE]You'll hear no arguement from me [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

Quote:

Originally posted by JrKASperov:
Breach wont work on spell deflection or turning. Ruby Ray will work.
Aye, but Pierce Magic will work too. I must read up on my spells [img]graemlins/readingbook.gif[/img]

Xen 08-17-2003 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gangrell:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Xen:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Gangrell:
Succeed, oh crap I'm just becoming that picky [img]graemlins/nono.gif[/img]

Thanks for the correction. One must always try to be perfect,my young grasseater. :D

Usually I`m the picky arse. :D
</font>[/QUOTE]You'll hear no arguement from me [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

Quote:

Originally posted by JrKASperov:
Breach wont work on spell deflection or turning. Ruby Ray will work.
Aye, but Pierce Magic will work too. I must read up on my spells [img]graemlins/readingbook.gif[/img]
</font>[/QUOTE]Yes young grasseater. Go and learn. :D

Gangrell 08-17-2003 05:06 PM

And here I am teaching him about Wizard Slayers, ah well, who better to learn from? :D

JrKASperov 08-17-2003 05:47 PM

Yer all fools I tells ya!

Broadside 08-17-2003 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gangrell:
Yes of course, Breach, for the Wizard Slayer/Mage [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Something you spend your life learning to kill, you just become on of them yourself, weird :rolleyes:

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you."

Qmanol 08-17-2003 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gangrell:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Xen:
In case if the Wizard Slayer dies.

Then that would be a bad thing [img]tongue.gif[/img]

But when using the Acid Katana I would be careful when you use it around wizards. If they have Spell Deflection/Turning up, it'll come right back to you.
</font>[/QUOTE]Hmmm. It has been my experience that the acid arrow has been nullified by my immunity to acid, and another arrow is fired at the mage by way of retaliation. The spell turning dies soon afterwards, and the mage gets it fair in the moosh from Sanchuu. Not to mention that as each damage-over-time hit from the MAA _also_ sends a retaliatory arrow at the mage, the poor fellow just melts away under the barrage. Of course, all the hit animations mean that you'd better run from any melee enemies while you can still move. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 08-17-2003, 07:04 PM: Message edited by: Qmanol ]

Gangrell 08-17-2003 08:07 PM

I like the Acid Katana, don't get me wrong, it's just when my mage usually uses an area effect spell she/he nearly dies instantly [img]graemlins/erm.gif[/img]

JrKASperov 08-18-2003 01:37 AM

That's it, I'm altering that crappy weapon so the acid backlash is gone, it's way too much of a cheese! :mad: Anyway, it is strong enough without it, time for some toning...yeah!

SixOfSpades 08-18-2003 02:58 AM

The common method of "softening" Sanchuudoku is to remove the Backlash and tone the Regeneration down to a more reasonable level. A +4 weapon that does Acid damage and lowers the victim's Acid resistance with each hit is quite a formidable tool.

Dundee Slaytern 08-18-2003 03:28 AM

Let us impale thee with thy own blade.

1) Cast Protection from Acid and Fire Shield( Blue or Red, depends on the situation).
2) Stand right next to Kuriosan and Magic Missile him.
3) Watch him fry/freeze to death.

JrKASperov 08-18-2003 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
The common method of "softening" Sanchuudoku is to remove the Backlash and tone the Regeneration down to a more reasonable level. A +4 weapon that does Acid damage and lowers the victim's Acid resistance with each hit is quite a formidable tool.
I simply remeuved ze regen. As you say, alone it is formidable tool already! I even lowered the acid damage to 1d4. (it will do enough damage with creatures having negative acid protection [img]smile.gif[/img] )

Gangrell 08-18-2003 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
The common method of "softening" Sanchuudoku is to remove the Backlash and tone the Regeneration down to a more reasonable level. A +4 weapon that does Acid damage and lowers the victim's Acid resistance with each hit is quite a formidable tool.
Well, a powerful tool from a formidable foe, especially if you decide to get CF early on in the game.


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