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The Offspring of Viconia and Edwin 08-09-2003 07:16 AM

Does anyone have a favourite God? I know I'm probably going to be destroyed by an avatar of a God who doesn't like how this subject is going, but it is slightly interesting anyway. By 'God', I mean Waukeen, Rillifane, Talos, etc.
If you prefer one of the dead Gods, like Bhaal or Bane, I suppose they can be classed as Gods for the duration of this topic.

pcgiant 08-09-2003 07:59 AM

Cyric seems a nice enough chap, apart from the fact he killed your father...

Vedran 08-09-2003 08:04 AM

Nota bene: God with capital letter represents a god of a monotheistic religion (christianity, Judaism, Islam). god with lower-case letter represents a deity of a polytheistic religion (Roman, Greek, Scandinavian, Forgotten Realms,...)

I don't really have a favourite deity, but my characters usually do (and it depends on their alignment).

Sir Exxon 08-09-2003 08:32 AM

<font color="gold">I've always liked Torm, the god of Justice. I would've liked Helm, but the Helmites are so pompous that they've given me a bad image of their god.
I've also always liked Tymora, as luck is important at every time. [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>

Indemaijinj 08-09-2003 09:15 AM

Jubilex.

Dadams1 08-09-2003 09:22 AM

I like Helm :D . I love all that righteous stuff [img]smile.gif[/img] .

Xen 08-09-2003 10:21 AM

The Player 1. [img]smile.gif[/img] He`s the smartes,wisest,yada,yada God in the game.

Sagramore 08-09-2003 12:26 PM

big fan of tempus...and talos, gotta love that storm shield

Raistlin Majere 08-09-2003 01:18 PM

Mystra or Mask for me. Bane isnt bad either, and of course Bhaal is just too cool.

ocellis 08-09-2003 01:25 PM

Shar because she helped poor Viconia after she stumbled to the surface.
I can't belive she has such a bad reputation.(Or has she? I'm not exactly firm in
AD&D lore X-)

Sythe 08-09-2003 01:28 PM

Mask, Myrkul and good ol Da (Bhaal)

I hate Umberlee the Bitch Queen (That is really her title and if you played BG 1 you will understand how she got it.)

Pyrenk 08-09-2003 04:12 PM

Mask, Bhaal, Bane, in that order.

Gangrell 08-09-2003 04:22 PM

Lathander, Mask, and Wee Jas.

Raistlin Majere 08-09-2003 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ocellis:
Shar because she helped poor Viconia after she stumbled to the surface.
I can't belive she has such a bad reputation.(Or has she? I'm not exactly firm in
AD&D lore X-)

yup, shes bad. she only took viccy under her wing cause shes evil.

Ares 08-09-2003 06:52 PM

The god Soulafein worships..Eilistrae Silverhair or something to that effect. Very cool o_O

erictheredslayer 08-09-2003 08:18 PM

Definately Waukeen, only god/goddess who has managed to get a vacation with no pesky calls from mortals.What other deity has managed that?

[ 08-09-2003, 09:03 PM: Message edited by: erictheredslayer ]

jamalez 08-09-2003 11:12 PM

im gona have to say Thor

IronDragon 08-10-2003 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted By: Vedran

God with capital letter represents a god of a monotheistic religion (christianity, Judaism, Islam). god with lower-case letter represents a deity of a polytheistic religion (Roman, Greek, Scandinavian, Forgotten Realms,...)
A God or Goddess who is worshiped deserves the respect of having the recognition f a proper known and as such should be capitalized.


As for the question at hand; I have to go with Ilmater, the crying god.

A deity who willingly takes on the suffering of the poor and the helpless is a deity worthy of respect and worship.

[ 08-10-2003, 01:01 AM: Message edited by: IronDragon ]

Pirengle 08-10-2003 01:11 AM

My deity of choice is Tyr, god of righteous warfare. Go Tyr!

apollo 08-10-2003 04:03 AM

APOLLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(obviously) AnD ISIS

apollo 08-10-2003 04:04 AM

apollo! (obviously) and isis, lathander and talos are cool

apollo 08-10-2003 04:06 AM

Sorry i posted this twice accidently :)


Soz..............

Ares 08-10-2003 04:07 AM

they have edit/delete options for a reason. =)

The Offspring of Viconia and Edwin 08-10-2003 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by IronDragon:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> Originally Posted By: Vedran

God with capital letter represents a god of a monotheistic religion (christianity, Judaism, Islam). god with lower-case letter represents a deity of a polytheistic religion (Roman, Greek, Scandinavian, Forgotten Realms,...)

A God or Goddess who is worshiped deserves the respect of having the recognition f a proper known and as such should be capitalized.


As for the question at hand; I have to go with Ilmater, the crying god.

A deity who willingly takes on the suffering of the poor and the helpless is a deity worthy of respect and worship.
</font>[/QUOTE]I'm not actually religious, so I don't have any idea why I spell God with a capital G. Lolth is a Goddess, but doesn't willingly take on the suffering of the poor, and yet she is still worshipped by the entire drow civilisation (except Viconia, my dear mother).

As to answering my own question, I'd have to pick Cyric, anything that can kill the Lord of Murder must be worthy of respect.

Gangrell 08-10-2003 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Offspring of Viconia and Edwin:
Lolth is a Goddess, but doesn't willingly take on the suffering of the poor, and yet she is still worshipped by the entire drow civilisation (except Viconia, my dear mother).
There are reasons why Lolth is worshipped, but only for one reason really, fear. I had read before that Lolth puts the Drow through tests from birth to adulthood, all ranging from tests to see if your heart is of pure evil, to battle a rival merchant, or leading an army to victory. If you fail you die, if you pass all tests, you have two fates. One, you live out your life free from Lolth's intervention, or you become one of her personal Driders.

Lolth does this because she is attempting to create an ultimate race of warriors, devoid of any good, to make the fallen elves strong enough to take on their counter parts.

So says Dungeon Magazine, Greyhawk and the Forgotten Realms.

JrKASperov 08-10-2003 05:07 PM

MYSTRA FOR SURE! Come on, she IS magic itself!

Furthermore, I can agree with the Eilistraee part, cause her clerics dance around naked at night as prayers. :D

Sharessians (god of cats, sensuality) are cool too, they're idea of a party is a full orgy with wine and all. (and yes, that means SEX, I once had a fellow partymember with PnP DnD accidently walk into one of the Sharess temples at night when there was a party and he was drunk, at the same time, my sorcerer scored with TWO drow Eilistraeeans at the same time! :D )

Sythe 08-10-2003 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JrKASperov:


Furthermore, I can agree with the Eilistraee part, cause her clerics dance around naked at night as prayers. :D


:eek: Really? Where can I sign up to be an Cleric of Eilstraee? :D

Lord Lothar 08-11-2003 12:42 AM

<font color=cadetblue>Talos! Storm shield rockssss!</font>

JrKASperov 08-11-2003 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sythe:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JrKASperov:


Furthermore, I can agree with the Eilistraee part, cause her clerics dance around naked at night as prayers. :D


:eek: Really? Where can I sign up to be an Cleric of Eilstraee? :D </font>[/QUOTE]Yeah, really, had one of those in my party as well. Lovely. Too bad they casted sleep on my sorcerer which promtly fell asleep before the show. Had his eh.. Rod of Wonders ready you know :D

TaSSaDaR 08-11-2003 06:10 AM

Bhaal and Vecna, for sure!! The two who gave me the power... :wicked smile:

White Lancer 08-11-2003 07:35 AM

Wasn't Vecna a Lich?

My fav: Mystra... gotta love magic

TaSSaDaR 08-11-2003 07:46 AM

Vecna (AFAIK) was an Arch-Lich (thats written somewhere.. anyone skilled in AD&D lore can tell a difference btw Arch and Demi lich??) later becoming a lesser deity...

ADD] And can anyone suggest me a place (internet) to download some books about Vecna... Got interested in this critter [img]smile.gif[/img] Or just tell what was his fate. IIRC, he is somehow related to magic... lesser god of magic maybe?

[ 08-11-2003, 07:49 AM: Message edited by: TaSSaDaR ]

Gangrell 08-11-2003 08:22 AM

If I'm correct, Vecna was a powerful lich but before his trip onto godhood, an assassin cut off his hand and took out his eye, thus making the artifacts The Hand and Eye of Vecna. He was so powerful, those two body parts were considered artifacts, but I forget how exactly he became a god.

Add: In Dungeons and Dragons, an Arch-Lich are priests or mages that have come unto undeath as a Lich of a non-evil alignment, so it wouldn't be right calling Vecna an "Arch" Lich.

Demi-Lich for 2nd Edition Dungeons&Dragons

Morgeruat 08-11-2003 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Offspring of Viconia and Edwin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by IronDragon:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> Originally Posted By: Vedran

God with capital letter represents a god of a monotheistic religion (christianity, Judaism, Islam). god with lower-case letter represents a deity of a polytheistic religion (Roman, Greek, Scandinavian, Forgotten Realms,...)

A God or Goddess who is worshiped deserves the respect of having the recognition f a proper known and as such should be capitalized.


As for the question at hand; I have to go with Ilmater, the crying god.

A deity who willingly takes on the suffering of the poor and the helpless is a deity worthy of respect and worship.
</font>[/QUOTE]I'm not actually religious, so I don't have any idea why I spell God with a capital G. Lolth is a Goddess, but doesn't willingly take on the suffering of the poor, and yet she is still worshipped by the entire drow civilisation (except Viconia, my dear mother).

As to answering my own question, I'd have to pick Cyric, anything that can kill the Lord of Murder must be worthy of respect.
</font>[/QUOTE]Actually it was Mask's avatar that killed Bhaal.

My fav is Lathander, I had alot of fun with his teachings and the doomguard in planescape (a module where one of their memebers claims to have been told to follow the doomguards because Lathander the morninglord told him so, I argued that as the Morninglord with morning as a sign of rebirth, that the entropy that the doomguard espouse as their philosophy- Haer D'alis is a member- is completely incompatible with Lathander, hehe the DM was stuck for what to do about that one... :D :D :D )

Morgeruat 08-11-2003 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gangrell:
If I'm correct, Vecna was a powerful lich but before his trip onto godhood, an assassin cut off his hand and took out his eye, thus making the artifacts The Hand and Eye of Vecna. He was so powerful, those two body parts were considered artifacts, but I forget how exactly he became a god.

Add: In Dungeons and Dragons, an Arch-Lich are priests or mages that have come unto undeath as a Lich of a non-evil alignment, so it wouldn't be right calling Vecna an "Arch" Lich.

Demi-Lich for 2nd Edition Dungeons&Dragons

~~Greyhawk info Long long ago on the world of Greyhawk, where mages the like of Mordenkainen, Melf, Rary, Bigby (and most of the others who have spells named after them) first began, an evil mage carved an emipre of blood slaves and death, he ascended to become the most powerful lich to ever exist, and used his kingdom to inspire belief in his divinity (thus leading him to godhood). He crafted an extremely powerful artifact for his chief lieutenent Kas, the sword of Kas. The artifact however was a powerful evil item and had a great deal of Vecna's personality imbued into it, mostly his ambition and evil.

The sword constantly whispered to Kas that he could take control of the empire from Vecna very easily with it's power. Eventually Kas believed that it was true and attacked Vecna, the resulting combat destroyed Vecna and Kas, leaving only the Hand and Eye of Vecna (and his robe for BG2), and the Sword of Kas, however Vecna was partially on his way to godhood, having become a demigod by this point, and so his essence was not fully able to be dispersed. Eventually Vecna was reborn and trapped in Ravenloft. (Gondegal the lost king from the books you find scattered about the game, is also stranded in Ravenloft) However according to current Canon for Ravenloft Vecna has escaped, and Kas is an extremely powreful vampire.

Vacna is also known as the Maimed god, for obvious reasons.

Gangrell 08-11-2003 11:42 AM

I didn't think I was that far off Morgeruat, then again I may have been thinking about another tale. Could you tell me which book that is in so I can look up on it?

Stratos 08-11-2003 12:11 PM

Fav. dieties: Mystra and Mielikki.

Quote:

Add: In Dungeons and Dragons, an Arch-Lich are priests or mages that have come unto undeath as a Lich of a non-evil alignment, so it wouldn't be right calling Vecna an "Arch" Lich.
Off topic but there is an Arch-Lich in IWD: the leader of the Severed Hand (forgot his name)

Quote:

Vacna is also known as the Maimed god, for obvious reasons.
Isn't Tyr called the Maimed God as well?

Gangrell 08-11-2003 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stratos:
Fav. dieties: Mystra and Mielikki.

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Add: In Dungeons and Dragons, an Arch-Lich are priests or mages that have come unto undeath as a Lich of a non-evil alignment, so it wouldn't be right calling Vecna an "Arch" Lich.

Off topic but there is an Arch-Lich in IWD: the leader of the Severed Hand (forgot his name)</font>[/QUOTE]I didn't say there weren't Arch-Liches, but remember that type of Arch-Lich is in the Greyhawk setting so it might be different on Toril.

The Offspring of Viconia and Edwin 08-11-2003 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Morgeruat:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by The Offspring of Viconia and Edwin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by IronDragon:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> Originally Posted By: Vedran

God with capital letter represents a god of a monotheistic religion (christianity, Judaism, Islam). god with lower-case letter represents a deity of a polytheistic religion (Roman, Greek, Scandinavian, Forgotten Realms,...)

A God or Goddess who is worshiped deserves the respect of having the recognition f a proper known and as such should be capitalized.


As for the question at hand; I have to go with Ilmater, the crying god.

A deity who willingly takes on the suffering of the poor and the helpless is a deity worthy of respect and worship.
</font>[/QUOTE]I'm not actually religious, so I don't have any idea why I spell God with a capital G. Lolth is a Goddess, but doesn't willingly take on the suffering of the poor, and yet she is still worshipped by the entire drow civilisation (except Viconia, my dear mother).

As to answering my own question, I'd have to pick Cyric, anything that can kill the Lord of Murder must be worthy of respect.
</font>[/QUOTE]Actually it was Mask's avatar that killed Bhaal.

My fav is Lathander, I had alot of fun with his teachings and the doomguard in planescape (a module where one of their memebers claims to have been told to follow the doomguards because Lathander the morninglord told him so, I argued that as the Morninglord with morning as a sign of rebirth, that the entropy that the doomguard espouse as their philosophy- Haer D'alis is a member- is completely incompatible with Lathander, hehe the DM was stuck for what to do about that one... :D :D :D )
</font>[/QUOTE]"The Time of Troubles, in which the gods of the Forgotten Realms assumed mortal form and walked the Realms, started when the gods Bane and Myrkul stole the Tablets of Fate from Lord Ao, the overpower god of the Realms. In retribution for this act, Ao banished all of the gods from their outer-planar domains (except for Helm who guards the Outer-Planes). The Gods were forced to assume the forms of mortal Avatars until the end of the Time of Troubles, when the tablets were returned to their rightful owner. During the crisis, Mystra's (god of magic) and Myrkul's (god of the dead) avatars were killed, Bane (god of evil and tyranny) was destroyed fighting Torm, and the human Cyric killed Bhaal (god of murder and assassins) in an epic struggle while competing for Bane's portfolio. After the dust settles, Cyric (death, evil and madness) ascended to new godhood."
- So sayeth the Baldur's Gate II: Shadows Of Amn manual, page 64: The Role Of Years

Hmm .. should I laugh now or laugh later?

Xen 08-11-2003 04:07 PM

[img]graemlins/offtopic.gif[/img] That is one big quote!


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