I've tried, and quit and tried again. And quit again. Having a party is just way cooler. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] I think.

For one, it seems like you go through the game without a change in strategy. In a party you can go into a battle with so many more options. Scout ahead with a thief. Then set up a defensive position and bring the enemy to you or prepare an offensive bumrush with your tank storming in or a barage of magic spells or summoned creatures or whatever, the list could go on forever.

Growing up reading and playing D&D gave me a lust for magic items. The more people in the party the more items you can seek out and put to good use or evil use, each one specific to a certain class of character. I just hate wasting or selling all of these super enchanted items in a solo game.

Leveling up so fast is great but isn't it a bit cheesy? It doesn't take very long for your character to reach demi-god levels. It sort of takes the challenge out of the easier quests. And if a party defeats a dragon and a soloer defeats a dragon why does one get more experience? Just because he/she did it all by themselves? Both the group and the solo "experienced" killing a dragon. I guess I don't agree with the way experience is divided up. Rant on brother...I miss the dialogue between NPCs. I alway picture this adventuring done by a band of well-doers or their counterparts.

Anyway, I'm done ranting. I would just like to finish one solo so I could join so many of you out there who have, but alas, it's too freaking boring!

It might be boring ,but you can learn all advantiges and disadvantiges of a class or kit. You can learn much new tactics and new things. But if you are bored,you aredone with it. Soloing is not for boring or not boring. I consider soling as a challenge and i really get to know abilities and options of the class.


Like SixOfSpades would said:"i don`t belive in soloing. I rather have a party of adventures how help me with my quests."

[ 07-01-2003, 04:46 AM: Message edited by: Xen ]

<FONT FACE="Arial" SIZE="2" COLOR="#00ff00">solo-ing is just too hard, but fun, to do.but that is just in the beginning of playing the game.later, if u play several times and get a bit bored, u want something just different from the usual thing, maybe a bit more hard character to play, a more hard difficulties, or even just playing by yer self (no pc).this happens to me.playing solo is cool too, cause the game increase in difficulties and needs more strategies to execute from yer head too beat the demons, than the strategies u usually use when playing in a big party.
and for the experience thing.i think the 'dividing experience'thing is fair enough, cause if yer plaing in a party of 6, that means u beat him with 6 types of power.and those 6 types of power r different in the affect to kill the dragon, so u have to divide the experience.the same as if you were doing a homework with 6 of yer friends helping u.which one makes u more understandable?i think its more understandable if u do it alone, even if u did ask something to yer friend or to your teacher about it before, u just understand more doing it alone than doing it with yer friends.</FONT>

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[ 07-01-2003, 04:54 AM: Message edited by: BaRoN NiGhT ]

[img]graemlins/offtopic.gif[/img] Baron Knight:there is no need to quite the entire post. Some people still have Dial-Up connection. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[ 07-01-2003, 04:49 AM: Message edited by: Xen ]

i tried soloing a few times myself. this time i was playing a solo tactics/ascension(and the usual weimer mods) game, and i almost got to spellhold(just windspear hills left), but then i got an inspiration(alright, alright, i finally got it to work) to play bg1 via BGT. ah well, i saved all the essential files and promised my self i would return to it as soon as i finish bg1...well see

I'm with SpongeBob here all the way. Go parties! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

As for the challenge aspect - call me a fruitcake, but am I the only one who finds soloing much easier?! Sure, you have less firepower... but you don't struggle to keep 5 other party memebers (= possible losers, read ahead) alive! A solo character can just put on all the Phat Lewt and stroll through most battles. In a party, one needs to micromanage inventory and equipment for every memeber of the party, with respect to his/her part in the party array. I find this to be one of the most interesting and fun parts of BG2. Heck, I spend more time planning my parties than playing them! :D

Anyway - parties. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

Yes parties are better from the roleplaying wiew too. And in a party you can have mcu more versatile tacitcs. And as said above soloing [b]<u>is</b]</u] easier whent it comes to staying alive.

exactly! soloing is challenging before you hit level 13-15(depends on class), then it turns out to be a walk in the park. the banters and romances are the thing that makes me come back to the game over and over again, and you miss all that if you play solo! i find a party made by yourself to be just as lame. no party interactions, worse yet, while creating the party, you usually plan ahead so you have a party that can take on anything without a second thought. all the characters are also likely to be uber powerful stat wise. to end the rant, ill quote Alson - "parties [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] "

Party on! [img]graemlins/3party.gif[/img]

Seriously, no matter how versatile your character is, you're still less so than a party. My own tends to be small, 3-4 members, but I try to cover all the "necessities": at least one tankable character, one healer, one thief and one offensive spellcaster. You don't need all these but it's make the party more "whole". Besides it's more realistic to play a party considering the number of foes you'll encounter.

[ 07-01-2003, 12:24 PM: Message edited by: Stratos ]

Oh,i soloed too much games now days...*goes make a new party*

im gona try it with bgt!

<FONT FACE="Arial" SIZE="2" COLOR="#00ff00">well, i partied too much ... gotta solo some time :D . </FONT>

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I think parties are more difficult than soloing. By the end of Chapter 4, a solo F/M/T can clean up the rest of the game with ease. A 4-6 person party goes through constant challenge.

Thoughts on challenging parties:
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• Anti-magic party: wizard slayer, swashbuckler, barbarian, monk, archer (no cleric spells), Korgan</font>
• Pro-magic NPC party: PC bard (no kit), Nalia, Jaheira, Edwin, Kelsey, Anomen</font>
• Pro-magic party: bard, abjurer, sorcerer, ranger, druid, wild/plain mage</font>
• BG2 specialty party: barbarian, sorcerer, monk, wild mage (ToB only)</font>
• Traditional D&D party: fighter, thief, mage, cleric (no kits)</font>
• Pirates!: 2 swashbucklers, berserker, enchanter/sorcerer, blade, multiclass thief/cleric</font>

I stopped playing my Kelsey romance party for a while--the romance heated up and I had little privacy to play. [img]graemlins/blush.gif[/img] So I took a party from BG1 where I made all six characters, played them through TotSC, imported them into BG2, and dual-classed them. :D I have a beast master/thief, swashbuckler/mage, the animal-friendly ranger kit/cleric, kensai/druid, cleric of helm/mage, and my favorite, the abjurer/fighter. I want to find out who works better, a mage/fighter or a bard, and also conduct some dual-classing tests.

I like those ideas, especially the pirate group. Brynnlaw would be like a homecoming. For your anti-magic party I would substitute Valygar(no spell casting allowed) for one of them simply for his anti-magic raving.

SpongeBob: A gnomish cleric/thief can be a juggernaut of destruction. Just ask Butterfingers or Lemmy. ;)

I don't like Valygar the way he is right now, and praise be to LennonCook for his NPC fix mods. The only reason I can figure he's a stalker of all things is his racial enemy: golems. If anyone's done Valygar's quest, you probably know how much that might come in handy. ;) Once Mr. Corthala becomes the Wizard Slayer he was meant to be, then maybe he'd work for an anti-magic party.

Chapter 4 spoilers!
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I think it'd be fun to take a 5 male/1 female pirate party to Brynnlaw, then update their personal biographies to mention their "encounters" with Cayia and wild drunken revelry with the Vulgar Monkey pirates. But that's just me. (BTW, anyone notice that the Vulgar Monkey pirates in BG2 are the city of Baldur's Gate's sailor bar sailors from BG1?)

What is the most easiest class to solo with? Curious because if you just solo with a figher you kick butt. Until you stumble upon a foe that has more expireince in melee combat or a wizard. I prefer parties all the way. I feel more comfortable with a group behind me I have this sorta family feeling, if you had the same party members for a while. But when I solo I feel a bit spooked into going into underground dungeons such as the Windspear Hills or Bodhi's crypt. I would at least have one party member with me. Someone like Imoen. She's the spellcaster and I am the mucscle!

But those who have soloed so many times don't you ever feel that your character might be a lil lonely?

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"You will suffer oh yes"

It's not parties OR solo, it's party AND solo!

Both experiences add up to completing BGII SoA+ToB for the full monty !!

[ 07-02-2003, 04:48 PM: Message edited by: Zuvio ]

Sorcerer

fighter/mage/thief. especially if you use (project image/mislead) and deal backstabbing multiplied damage as long as the spell lasts. another tactic is to boost yourself to hell with protection spells and such and haste into massacre.

most ridiculous, allthough ToB-related, is cast timestop, charge your enemy and use greater whirlwind ability.
conclusion : game is easy as softball with this char, there are myriads of ways to rule with it.

Sorcerer </font>[/QUOTE]I concur. :D

[img]graemlins/offtopic.gif[/img] Text always downloads quickly, no matter your connection speed.

But you're right, there's no need to quote the whole post. Just chop out the the snippets to which you'll be replying, and save people from re-reading the post all over again. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[img]graemlins/offtopic.gif[/img] Text always downloads quickly, no matter your connection speed.

But you're right, there's no need to quote the whole post. Just chop out the the snippets to which you'll be replying, and save people from re-reading the post all over again. [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE][img]graemlins/offtopic.gif[/img] And thank god for Ranchoweb quiting it's service, so 50% of all tyhe images are gone. It's a blessing for those who still have dial-up (were are you from anywayz) !!

Soloing is practically for people who have played the game so many times that they even have the dialogs/story memorized in the back of their heads! So in order to stimulate their BGII experiences, they create a single character and see if they can finish the whole game without the help of NPCs.

Also always keep in mind: When you're invincible, you WILL be lonely!

Now all we need is a free image hosting service that requires users to download a spellchecker and use it X number of times before allowing hosting and requiring X number of uses to keep the images hosted. But that might just be an idle daydream born from one of my own pet peeves... ;)

I tried a Wild Mage solo once. Made it through the dungeon okay. I lost my resolve when I met Anomen in the Coronet and later Kelsey in the government district. How do soloers steel their hearts against friendship and companionship? I get these guilty twinges when certain NPCs offer to join my party (like Keldorn and Mazzy) and I feel a strange sense of wrongdoing when I'm forced to let them go. Then there are folks like Jan and Nalia who I have no problems making suffer. [img]graemlins/firedevil.gif[/img] (They have their moments, but they're like fireworks--15 seconds of light and magic and then they smell funny.)

<FONT FACE="Arial" SIZE="2" COLOR="#00ff00"> [img]graemlins/offtopic.gif[/img] well i think i did erase my unnececesary quote.didn't u see my post ups Xens?</FONT>

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[img]graemlins/offtopic.gif[/img] Everybody Chill !! Who cares if he quotes the entire post? Anyone reading a thread KNOWS what he's replying to, otherwise they have screwed up Short-Term-Memory !!