HELP!!

The hard disk space requirement for ToTSC is stated to be 600 MB, but after installation, the game itself took up 750-odd MB (without the movie clips) - I've had to continually shift files on my original hard disk during the installation itself!
Well, maybe it meant that the add-on itself takes up 600 MB (to take up a massive 1.2 gig space on my ancient computer), but I doubt it. To make things worse, I can't even start up the game now that I've only 20++ MB left in my hard disk ("...not enough memory in hard disk..."). Any suggestions?

PS I'm thinking of playing some modules in turn (Ulgoth's Beard and Durlag's Tower first, then later Werewolf Island etc), deleting and re-installing each time (can I keep my characters in between?). But this seems way too tedious; what do you'll say?

i think that in my system the game took about 550 mb! 2 things to check:
1)run a scandisk,maybe some bad clusters eating hd space (a friend of mine had lost that way about 1 giga!!)
2)u have fat32 aren't u? (cause small files that tosc has want much more space in fat16)

p.s. remember thar tosc makes the minimum temp drive from 80mb to 140 mb.

i think that in my system the game took about 550 mb! 2 things to check:
1)run a scandisk,maybe some bad clusters eating hd space (a friend of mine had lost that way about 1 giga!!)
2)u have fat32 aren't u? (cause small files that tosc has want much more space in fat16)

p.s. remember thar tosc makes the minimum temp drive from 80mb to 140 mb.

Or you can get yourself an additional hard drive. www.pricewatch.com has hard drives from 2.1 gig to 80 gigs listed, and the prices are much (I repeat, much) cheaper than any retail stores out there. The 2.1 are 41 dollars, and the best value I've found on that site are the 6.4 gigs from 52 to 65 dollar range (not including shipping and handling).

Hope this helps somewhat.

You're welcome.

FAT 16 and FAT 32 are what they call "File Allotment Types" and as you can see there are two numbers, 16 and 32. As color, these refer to bits. Let's suppose you have a library. You have 20 sets of encyclopedias and each set has 20 books. Let's call that FAT 16. What FAT 32 is supposedly can do is condense each set to one book (maybe 2 to 5 but for sake of simplicity let's say 1). so instead of 400 books, you now have 20 books. Win95 uses FAT 16 and Win98 uses FAT 32. But frankly, it's not that big of a deal because Win 95 isn't that bad in file management. However, one word of warning, just because FAT 32 is twice the compression of FAT 16, you cannot use them in either file sets. Remember that although they have the same content, they are different. The 20 set might have different covers and typeface; whereas, the 1 book will have another cover and a different typeface. Hope this helps, I don't think it pertains much to your situation. FAT 16 also has a 1.2 Gig limit per drive, and FAT 32 has none (theoretically). So if you have Win 95, then I suggest you upgrade from 95 to 98 to make sure that you can upgrade your harddrive.

Hard drive do not have hardware conflicts because it's assigned letters (and numbers). They can share the same IRQ, and you can have up to (I think) 50 harddrives in 95 and 120 in Win 98. Why, I don't know. It's how they set it up. The best upgrade for your computer if it's an old one is to get a brand new computer (yes, it's expensive), but there are good computer companies like Alienware (www.alienware.com) or Falcon-Northwest (www.falon-nw.com). Those companies are expensive but at least you can get an idea what kind of equipment you can get for yourself. Hope this helps.

Hardware conflicts can be common (in Win95 and 3.1 they were a pain, but seem to have settled in 9 but what kind of conflicts are you talking about?

Stred: I've just run scandisk (Standard) and found no trace of any missing clusters / bad sectors; I also don't think the "increased" cache size is the problem (since my original installation already had 140 MB cached). But exactly what is "fat32" and "fat16"?

Slag-king: Thanks for your suggestion, I will look into the possibility of getting another hard disk (this is unknown territory for me; btw, are hardware conflicts common? ).

actually.. FAT stands for "file Allocation Table"...hehhe...and yes hes right upgrade....i just uprgraded my 333 celeron so it has 128mb of ram stead of 32mb..and the difference is unbelievable..also buying a new hard drrive is essential you should always make sure you hae like 100-200mb free for the swap file and getting a new video card helps speed up preformance...( i just bought a nVIDIA geoforce 256 gts II)..well have fun..

Thanks for the correction! I couldn't remember what that "T" stood for!

if you wanna see if u have fat16 or 32 go to your hd properties and in file system will have fat16 or fat32.if you have fat16 make it fat32.(i think that it will delete all your files i am not sure )

Well, stred, you might want to make sure that you back up all the important files before you upgrade from FAT 16 to FAT 32 (just a word of caution). Converting the files to 32 does not delete the old files in 16, but it can render them useless. Besides Win 95 doesn't have FAT 32 only Win 98 and up. Win NT has a completely different FAT. I have four o/s on my one computer (which is a chore to do) and Win95 on my 486 DX 50 computer (yes you read that right!). On my other computer, I have Linux (Red Hat 6.2), BeOS, 98, and NT 4.0 (I hate 2000 professional). Each four requires a completely different file type. Thanks to Partition Magic, I was able to do that. For 98, I made sure that I began my partitioned drive as FAT 32, then I installed everything there.

For mir_ror, I believe you have Win95 right? If so, don't worry about converting the files from FAT16 to FAT32. You just might want to get yourself another hard drive.

The "hardware conflicts" are those (hypothetical) nightmarish scenarios where you fork out a monstrous sum of money for some RAM/sound-cards/hardisks (?) just to discover that your basic hardware is just not compatible with it - I just want to know what I'm getting myself into if I am going to install a new hard-disk.
I've been surfing for more info about FAT32, and it seems that there is another version of Win 95 with it - the Windows 95 Operating System Release 2 (OSR2), apart from Win 98. Right now, I'm trying to find out how to upgrade my OS to FAT32 with minimum fuss and pain.
Thanks again for all the extremely FAST responses to my query (although I'm still open to more )!

PS Can I just install Win 98 over my current Win 95?

hey slag_king as mir_ror said correctly win95 osr2 had fat32.
hey mir_ror as slag_king said correctly partition magic 5 is the easiest-safest way for these modifications.(in all the good warez sites you will find it for free)

p.s. mir_ror installing a new hd is probably the easiest thing to install in a p.c. (=no conflicts,no drivers just a fdisk,format and u are ready),just make sure that u have the proper type of controllers for the new hd.

by controllers, he means EIDE...not the Ultra IDE which just came out not too long ago (you can use it on regular IDE controller, but it actually slows down the transmission rate rather than make it the same rate as the regular EIDE) or SCSI.

Ah, yes, I've forgotten about the 95.2 (as I call it). It has more bugs than anything I've seen, and it's pretty useless.

You can write 98 over 95, but be prepared for loss of data and junk data. If you want to start clean, you might want to save your data that you need, and then format your harddrive. Then install Win98 (I suggest the second edition). Then you can reinstall everything. But wait, before you do that, be sure to get the drivers for your hardware saved on disk. I suggest you cruise the internet and get the drivers from the companies rather than your current batch. And save yourself Direct X 7.0a because win 98 puts in 5.0 (I think).

And if you don't like warez sites, PM 5 can be bought for less than 50 dollars. It was the best purchase for me because I have too many osses to work with.

By the way, a collegue of mine has a nice computer with everything SCSI, and he complains that he doesn't have much difference playing games on it than on my computer (which is SCSI free!). Well, duh! You don't need SCSI to run games because the rate of information between everything is pretty small compared to something huge like Graphics-intensive or Math-intensive programs. SCSI works well when there's a bunch of information that needs to be transferred between two machines such as the hard drive and the CD-ROM. Admittedly that SCSI computer works real nice when I compile stuff and rendering graphics!

Okay, I've been doing my own crash course on hard disk installation during this week-end (since I can't access my computer on normal week-days) and this is basically what I've uncovered (courtesy of a certain David Risley [who knows, it might even be one of you guys!!] at hardwarecentral.com):

There 3 stages in preparing a hard disk for use:
(Low Level Formatting, done by manufacturers) -> File Sys setup/Partitioning (eg FAT32/NTFS/HPFS) -> High Level Formatting (aka DOS formatting)

And that there are 3 types of hard disk interfaces (threes, and threes, and trees... I'm getting a headache already ):

1. SCSI - It seems that these interfaces are damn complicated to configure (having a special end-device for the terminating device and whatnot) and, what's worse, there are no set standards for them at all -> thus different makes from different manufacturers may conflict with one another.
2. IDE - This seems to be the safer, but slower choice of many people.
3. EIDE - The Enhanced version of the above, but I'm not clear how much more enhanced it is ('...able to take advantage of the PCI interface from your new video card...' ?)

As usual, any comments/criticism about the info above is always welcome !

Do any of you have any informative, reliabe, and (most vital of all) frequently-updated sites about this (or any hardware-related) topic? What are the brands to look out for? I heard that Seagate, Toshiba and Maxtor are some of the more popular ones.

And before Moggl (or any other moderator of this board) boots me out for deviating too far from the subject at hand , I would be grateful to anybody who can provide me with this (game-related) info I mentioned in my opening message:

1. will I be able to play the other modules (eg Werewolf Island) from the ToTSC CD if I did not choose to have them installed? Is the Misc module crucial?

2. Exactly how much free hard disk space is needed to play the game? The 25++ MB I have doesn't seem to suffice.

3. Don't get me wrong, I'm very grateful to stred, slag-king (especially for taking the trouble to elaborate at such length and detail about FAT??, Win 95 et al) and the others who have responded. All of you are welcome to drop any suggestions you may have at my email address -> just click on my name! .

PS slag-king, I'm residing in SE Asia, so I don't think pricewatch.com or the other sites you've mentioned are that viable to me, what with the shipping costs and other hidden costs .

PPS Until this Fri/Sat, seeya at the board!

First of all mir_ror the controllers are
1)scsi: too expencive dont even think about it
2)ide: i dont think u are gonna find a ide controller/hd now they are too old (imagine like searching for a 80386!)
3)eide: the most popular but is aging now.
4)uide:the newest,probably the one you will find in the market.
As for a good site in the net for these matters i suggest www.tomshardware.com and its storage guide in http://www5.tomshardware.com/storage...728/index.html