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Intimadater 06-22-2003 02:24 PM

If I create a fighter then what would I need wisdom, intelligence, or charisma for?

Sir Exxon 06-22-2003 02:30 PM

<font color="gold">Close to nothing.
Wisdom affects some dialogue options. Intelligence affects your Lore. Charisma affects how much discount you get at stores.
Charisma is really the only one you should spend a few extra points on, as low prices can be quite useful. ;) </font>

Faceman 06-22-2003 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Intimadater:
If I create a fighter then what would I need wisdom, intelligence, or charisma for?
Roleplaying purposes. Distribute the attributes the way you think your character is. So if you think he's dumb screw intelligence and wisdom but if you want to create a wise knight I would still take some points though you won't need them (powergamingwise that is)

Charisma affects the way people look at you and therefore some dialogue options and the prices in stores. However there are magical means (items and spells) in the game to improve char and you can still make a highly charismatic NPC your party leader.

Mr_Krift 06-22-2003 03:10 PM

you can roll an infanite amount of times just go till u get good on all

Xen 06-22-2003 03:22 PM

Well you don`t need to worry ybout your Charisma becuase there is a certain Ring in he game wich sets it to 18. For Wisdom there are certain potions.

Zuvio 06-22-2003 04:27 PM

CHA modifies barterprices.
INT at 12(?)+ lets you use scrolls such as Greater Restoration.
WIS does nothing for you: NO saving throw improvements, thats 3rdD&D.

Intimadater 06-22-2003 05:34 PM

Alright so this is how I have my human fighter
Strength: 18
Dexterity: 18
Constitution: 18
Intelligence: 11
Wisdom: 8
Charisma: 16
I am actually going to play the first Baldur's Gate but I want my character to be made for Shadows of Amn for when I import to the second BG.
Would those stats be good for a fighter?

[ 06-22-2003, 05:35 PM: Message edited by: Intimadater ]

Zarr 06-22-2003 05:46 PM

Those stats seem fine. I'd maybe lower the charisma to 14 and pump up wisdom to 10. I don't like having any stat below 10 for roleplaying reasons but maybe that's just me [img]tongue.gif[/img] .

Intimadater 06-22-2003 06:14 PM

Well I'm not the kind of the player that roleplays, I like every advantage I can possibly get.

SixOfSpades 06-22-2003 07:17 PM

If he's going to be playing through BG1, it makes sense to have a somewhat low WIS. I've got an Archer now that started out with a natural 18 WIS, and after *cough, cough*, I had an Archer with 17 DEX, 15 CON and 21 Wisdom running around Amn. He looked kinda lopsided. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Dace De'Briago 06-22-2003 07:56 PM

I personally roll for a minimum of 93 stat points in BG 1 every time.

I like to roleplay the son of a God :D

Intimadater 06-22-2003 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
If he's going to be playing through BG1, it makes sense to have a somewhat low WIS. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Why would it make a difference if I had a low WIS if I were playing BG2?

Dron_Cah 06-22-2003 09:31 PM

SPOILERS!!

Dont

Look

Or

Get

Spoiled!


BG1 has a series of tomes that improve 1 stat 1 point permamently. For some reason, though the programmers put in 3 tomes of wisdom. therefore you can get 3 extra points in wisdom! That's what Six meant.

Edit: If your only playing BG2, then it doesn't make a difference, but u mentioned playing BG1 and then importing. So depending on what your doing the relevance varies. ;)

Later!

[ 06-22-2003, 09:33 PM: Message edited by: Dron_Cah ]

Intimadater 06-22-2003 09:42 PM

You don't happen to know where they are do you?

McHaggis 06-23-2003 05:14 AM

Intelligence is good to be over 10 for another reason too: Illithids. With an int of 11 you can survive to of their brain-sucking hits, as with int of 10 you would be dead. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Yeah, yeah, I know there potions such as Potion of Genius in the game, but you might not have them at hand when you run into these son-of-a-bitches. :D

Sir Exxon 06-23-2003 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Intimadater:
You don't happen to know where they are do you?
Quote:

From Mike's RPG Center:
In coffin in catacombs beneath Candlekeep, From The Lady's House in West BG (need for subquest); 3rd Floor of Durlag's Tower (TSC)
;)

Russ 06-23-2003 04:11 PM

Those stats are beyond fine... they're, in fact, wildly excessive.
Not that I do any differently, mind you, it's my cheese for not being able to engage in PnP-style subtleties... frankly, I agree with the other guy... what you've got now is kind of like a "show class" Great Dane... a physically perfect, beautiful physical specimen, without a thing between its ears to bother it...

Zuvio 06-23-2003 06:02 PM

Personally, I feel those tomes are overpowered, especially when you use your BGI char to import into BGII. BGII has no permanent stat enhancers, so my guess is Bioware concurs on this. Getting +18 (19 when races come into play) on stats is just wicked.

Zarr 06-23-2003 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zuvio:
BGII has no permanent stat enhancers,
Well although there's no tomes there still is certain instances were you can increase your stats.

SixOfSpades 06-24-2003 12:14 AM

I appease both my roleplaying and my powergaming sides with this system: </font>
  • At <u>no time</u> do I <u>ever</u> use the (+) or (-) buttons to move points from one stat into another.</font>
  • I can hit Reroll as many times as I want.</font>
  • When I see an attention-grabbing set of stats appear, I write it down.</font>
  • When I've written down 10 sets of stats, I choose one of them to be my final stats.</font>
  • Put these stats on the character in creation, using Shadowkeeper if necessary (such as getting the STR modifier exactly right).</font>
That's how I rolled my Cavalier this morning, with stats of
18(28) / 17 / 18 / 11 / 14 / 17.
Kickass stats, sure, but I got them on a natural roll! :D

[ 06-24-2003, 12:14 AM: Message edited by: SixOfSpades ]

BaRoN NiGhT 06-24-2003 12:35 AM

you actually dont have to max yer strength and charisma, since there are some items that increases those things.i made a kensai/mage with (after putting some cool things): 19/18/18/18/18/18 :D stats.

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[ 06-24-2003, 01:18 AM: Message edited by: BaRoN NiGhT ]

Jani 06-25-2003 02:33 PM

How much can you roll? I recently started a new archer and rolled a natural

18/90,17,18,16,16,15

If I´m counting correct it is even one hundred:) Is that a max you can have? Hope not cause after this it is difficult to settle with anything less than 35. And if it´s not the max I dare someone to roll better ones without osing - or + [img]smile.gif[/img]

Raistlin Majere 06-25-2003 04:24 PM

is it just me, or is it ALOT easier to roll high stats in bg1? all of my characters from bg1 have had stats over 92, and only after a few minutes of re-rolling! in bg2, i have to roll 10-20 minutes to reach something like 88 :( .

Dace De'Briago 06-25-2003 04:32 PM

Actually, 108 is the highest stats you can have off a dice roll.

i.e. 18 (max) * 6 attributes

Then we can add the tomes/moltm/domt/bhaal tears to increase stats to godlike proportions.

Khazza Pilgrim 06-25-2003 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Raistlin Majere:
is it just me, or is it ALOT easier to roll high stats in bg1? all of my characters from bg1 have had stats over 92, and only after a few minutes of re-rolling! in bg2, i have to roll 10-20 minutes to reach something like 88 :( .
I have no real stats or anything to back me up but I have rolled a natural 96 making a Paladin in BG1 and a fighter in bg1 on seperate occasions and gotten these stats in under 10 min of rolling. On the other hand in SOA I have spent 30 min rolling just to get and 89 and felt blessed at the time. This was with another Paladin. I use Paladins as a reference because your charisma stat already cannot be below a 17 and wisdom 13 so in my opinion I think you can squeak out higher roles with them

Jon Irenicus 06-25-2003 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Khazza Pilgrim:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Raistlin Majere:
is it just me, or is it ALOT easier to roll high stats in bg1? all of my characters from bg1 have had stats over 92, and only after a few minutes of re-rolling! in bg2, i have to roll 10-20 minutes to reach something like 88 :( .

I have no real stats or anything to back me up but I have rolled a natural 96 making a Paladin in BG1 and a fighter in bg1 on seperate occasions and gotten these stats in under 10 min of rolling. On the other hand in SOA I have spent 30 min rolling just to get and 89 and felt blessed at the time. This was with another Paladin. I use Paladins as a reference because your charisma stat already cannot be below a 17 and wisdom 13 so in my opinion I think you can squeak out higher roles with them </font>[/QUOTE]HEY, welcome to IW! Sorry, I dunno how to do those hands and stuff, but welcome~

Xen 06-26-2003 02:59 AM

<font color="gold">
Yes welcome. [img]graemlins/thewave.gif[/img] </font>

Khazza Pilgrim 06-26-2003 10:04 PM

Thank you...


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