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Lynn McC 05-19-2003 07:38 PM

Tanara is giving me big worries.... What hurts it? I seem to be lacking in whatever it takes. I have spent over two hours and all combinations that I have. I must be missing something. Thanks for any leads......Lynn

Lynn McC 05-19-2003 07:49 PM

Sorry..... Iwent back to check out the buzzard's name and it is correctly spelled Tanar'ri. Thanks again Lynn

Faceman 05-19-2003 08:01 PM

Try a Finger of Death. It often works wonders for supposedly Uberenemies. On the other hand he may be immune to that as he is a demon (damn I suck, well it's worth a try)
Anyway if you are not prepared to face a powerful demon like that yet (you need +3 or +4 weapons IIRC) and only want to advance in the story you can always use some cheese like trapping.

1. Set up all the Traps your thieves have in one area.
2. Rest
3. Repeat Step 1+2 as often as you like
4. Lure him to the traps
5. Collect his remainings

Dace De'Briago 05-19-2003 08:29 PM

Don't suppose you'd care to give us your parties levels and makeup so we can be a little more useful?

Raistlin Majere 05-20-2003 11:37 AM

hmmm...try casting resist fear(or remove fear, if you prefer. does the same), haste, strenght of one(make sure your tanks with more than 18/50, or whatever it gives, are out of the radius of effect when you cast it), chant, free action on as many people as you can and possibly quaff some buff potions. also, death spell is a huge help in this battle(i assume you mean one the tanar'ri in the planar sphere) since it kills most of the little demons surrounding the tanar'ri who is alone on the far western side of the map. hope it helps.

SixOfSpades 05-20-2003 02:42 PM

I believe Tanar'ri can only be harmed by weapons of at least +2 enchantment. If your Fighters aren't carrying any, you're probably in deep trouble. So many enemies in the game require +2 weapons or better that you really shouldn't go *anywhere* until you've got a couple.

And tell us where you are! You sound like you're in the Planar Prison, but you could probably be just about anywhere.

Lynn McC 05-20-2003 06:21 PM

Well I have;
Fighter level 10
Ranger level 9
Stalker level 9
fighter/druid level 9/11
cleric/mage level 9/10
mage/theif level 11/4

The stalker talked me into this. It is in the planer sphere. And I didn't save on more than one place. I can't just leave. There are a couple of cowled wizards waiting for me also. Mayhaps I am just doomed to start over. But I will try all of the suggestions first. Thanks alot for all sugestions...Lynn

Faceman 05-20-2003 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lynn McC:
Mayhaps I am just doomed to start over.
Don't say that. There's always a way out using the right tactics ;)

From your last post I assume you have PC (fighter), Minsc, Valygar, Jaheira, Aerie and Nalia.
Now unless your own char is a helluva fighter your party seems to lack tanks (I just don't like MInsc for that job). On the bright side you've got lots of firepower from arcane and divine (mage and cleric) spells. With the right tactic you should be able to take out the demons and the Cowleds. If it gets to difficult you can always use some cheese - and later on think of a good excuse, "why it was actually realistic and not really cheesy at all".
Here's another one for the Cowleds (CTRL+A to read)

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1.) You could find out (search the forum) what fake talk is and use it (but don't use it on the important navigator guy!!)
2.) Use wands (of magic missile, of fireball,of lightning, ...) and the Ring of the Ram immediately as you attack a wizard. They do not need spellcasting time and may be able to slay him before has even cast his protection spells.
</font>


"Someday I will be so dizzy from the stink of my cheesy tactics that somebody will be able to backstab me with Carsomyr"

SixOfSpades 05-20-2003 08:45 PM

How can her party be low on Tanks when she's got 2 Tanks and 2 Backup Tanks? Sounds perfectly fine to me, as far as pure Butt-Kicking-For-Goodness goes. No, Lynn, you've got muscle, but your party sorely needs a Thief. Yes, I know, Nalia's Profile has the word "Thief" in there, but she is NOT a Thief. She's a Mage who can use a Bow and fool you into thinking that you'll be able to Open Locks and Find & Disarm Traps. Don't be fooled.

The Tanar'ri in the Planar Sphere have only one powerful weapon at their disposal: Their Paralytic Gaze. Most Demons have some form of Gaze attack, and these are no exception. One simple glance from the Evil Eye and you could become petrified with fear and unable to move. And once your enemies see that one of your party members is helpless, they all move in for the kill.
"How do I avoid it?" There are two ways: Either try to find ways to become immune to Hold-type spells, or find ways to improve your Saving Throws.

And....Faceman? How precisely would Lynn go about using the RotR on those two particular Cowled Wizards? ;)

White Lancer 05-21-2003 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
And....Faceman? How precisely would Lynn go about using the RotR on those two particular Cowled Wizards? ;)
Well, if he pick-pocketed <span style="color: #FFFFFF">~somebody~ in the government district, he'll already have one... but with Nalia's Brilliant thieving skills, that isn't likely (baring potions ofcourse)

[ 05-22-2003, 01:04 AM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

Faceman 05-21-2003 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
How can her party be low on Tanks when she's got 2 Tanks and 2 Backup Tanks? Sounds perfectly fine to me, as far as pure Butt-Kicking-For-Goodness goes. And....Faceman? How precisely would Lynn go about using the RotR on those two particular Cowled Wizards? ;)
You are perfectly right there's certainly need of a thief here. Yet I still don't think that the tanks in this party are great. They are fighters by name but IMHO Valygar and Jaheira suck in melee combat and Minsc is only good if handled correctly. Only real backup with ranged weapon here would be Valygar again. So this leaves us with max 2 chars able to engage melee with the demon without being ripped apart in one or two hits (especially at this level).
And pardon me. Pickpocketing <span style="color: #FFFFFF">~somebody~ has become a standard thing to do for me every time I play SoA. So I kinda take the RotR for granted at the beginning of the game like the Ring of Regeneration.

[ 05-22-2003, 01:06 AM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

TaSSaDaR 05-21-2003 04:59 AM

I agree that Jaheira sucks at melee, but just if she is the foremost tank. Make whatever foe that needs tanking busy with other chars and bring in Jaheira. Casting Ironskins will also improve her tanking skills. In fact, with Ironskins she becomes pretty tankish. Sometimes I used her as a decoy for enemy archers to provide my fighters safe passage to the melee range [img]smile.gif[/img] And she withstood it, without even dropping her Ironskins. That fact made me want to solo a druid sometime...

ADD]Valygar can be a reserver tank (covering your mages if something comes from behind) in lower levels. Thats all due to his poisoned katana, which is great for beginning, and its pretty much the case now [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 05-21-2003, 05:01 AM: Message edited by: TaSSaDaR ]

ShadowChild 05-21-2003 05:36 AM

Jaheira sucks in melee? at the start maybe! but give her the Red Dragon Armour, a nice club and a certain pair of gauntlets that increase her STR to 19 (i forget which ones) and she kicks butt! True she's not as good as Anomen or my PC (Ranger), but she packs a punch.

I used to think she was a waste of space but after a time she becomes quite useful!

TaSSaDaR 05-21-2003 05:38 AM

Heh, so did it happen in my case. Her Fire Elementals alone make her worth staying [img]smile.gif[/img] Nevermind the fact that she was my sweetheart last game...

ShadowChild 05-21-2003 06:16 AM

Oooooooh! Jaheira and TaSSaDaR sittin in a tree! K..I..S..S..I..N..G! i feel like i'm back in school! hehehe [img]smile.gif[/img]

TaSSaDaR 05-21-2003 06:28 AM

[img]smile.gif[/img] Sitting in a tree... why not? Will have to practice it in the Real Life Realm someday with my present game girlfriend :)Too sad I won't have my Ring Of Human Influence on - she may be frightened a bit....

As for TaSSaDaR & Jaheira case... we were not sitting. And we were not kissing [img]smile.gif[/img] In fact, not only [img]smile.gif[/img]

ShadowChild 05-21-2003 06:32 AM

Hehehe, tis an old song we used to sing in school to tease people who liked another classmate (well in england, not sure about russia and elsewhere) - my romance with Jahiera seems to have fizzled out :( think its cos she's dropped dead a few times and then been reanimated (seen that film? its great!) by Anomen - i suppose being yanked between life and death all the time will do something to you after a time!

TaSSaDaR 05-21-2003 06:41 AM

Sorry for breaking your joke, here we had quite an other way to do the same thing (but it was still a song [img]smile.gif[/img] )

AFAIK being killed and reanimated breaks romance. As being petrified does. Or you just may have said something stupid to her.

Heh, let us not discuss Jaheira romance (or any other) in the Tanar'ri slaying thread [img]smile.gif[/img]

ShadowChild 05-21-2003 06:49 AM

Okey doke, see ya! [img]smile.gif[/img]

SixOfSpades 05-21-2003 07:11 PM

I would consider all remarks about pickpocketable Rings to be spoilerish, since this is almost certainly Lynn's first game. <font color=white>Dundee (or other moderator),</font> spoiler tags please?

It's reasonably safe to assume that Lynn's Fighter has good Tanking stats, Minsc can definitely Tank (he may have points in 2-handed weapons, but that doesn't prevent him from using a Shield if he wants to), and Valygar and Jaheira both have what it takes to Tank in this situation--THAC0 and Saving Throws. The Tanar'ri is only a formidable melee opponent if you've been Held.

Lynn McC 05-22-2003 06:53 PM

I got it!! Thanks guys.....onward....Lynn

Raistlin Majere 05-23-2003 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ShadowChild:
Jaheira sucks in melee? at the start maybe! but give her the Red Dragon Armour, a nice club and a certain pair of gauntlets that increase her STR to 19 (i forget which ones) and she kicks butt! True she's not as good as Anomen or my PC (Ranger), but she packs a punch.

I used to think she was a waste of space but after a time she becomes quite useful!

i like to give her a club(the red one or the gnasher) and belm. then something str increasing and a good armor, along with boots of speed and gauntlets of weapon specialization. i also make her have a sling for spell disruptions.(though insect plague will do better)


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