Ok. why keldron's AC is very difficult to lower?with shield, helmet(reduces AC by 1) and armor(AC 0)he has AC just -7 but i never use the shield because of the two handed sword he uses.Valygar's AC is now -8 and has his family armor that has AC 2!!!
i have searched in and out the whole bridge district and i havent found that guy in red.The gravekeeper said he would be there?

Edwin is pretty good conjurer is he better than nalia or aerie (lvl 14 both?)

[ 05-04-2003, 06:00 PM: Message edited by: sorab ]

You can try the Gaxx ring and/or the Red dragon scale armor (AC -1). I've got Minsc with -9 AC without Shield so the Keldorn may also be with lower AC (I've got to take a look at my save games for exact 'stuff') - you need Armor AC 1 or AC 2 in order to equip them with some other 'stuff' that gives them (Minsc or Keldorn) bonuses to AC and most important ST. I beat the games: SoA and ToB with Keldorn with AC -1 so don't worry - he is nightmare for all mages and sorceres equiped or not with the CoM (Cloack of cheese like s.o. says) and for the fighters when he grants his special abilities. He is your 'dispel' and 'true sight' man [img]smile.gif[/img] .

Keldorn is one of the best NPCs in this wonderful game !

[ 05-04-2003, 06:15 PM: Message edited by: Merlin from Amber ]

I agree, Keldorn is great. Also, a certain pair a bracers greatly improves his AC.

cloak of cheese?whre do i get this?
is there a better armor for valygar than his family's one?
indeed keldron is great Npc

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Cloak of <strike>Mirroring</strike> cheese is located in the Sahuagin City. To get there you need to tell Saemon Havarian that you will go with him on his ship.

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You might try the Armor of the Night (I think that's what it's called), the reward for the Umar Hills quest. If you wait for ToB, there's a certain armor there...

Edwin is a much better mage than Nalia or Aerie, due in part to the fact that he has his amulet (vs Nalia's +5% fire resist....) and the fact that he is single classed (vs. Aerie's double classed).
Plus Edwin is much funnier. Caution: Don't take him and certain good characters, he is, after all, evil.

Only thing imo that Aerie has over him is that she is a Cleric/Mage, but she advances much slower in levels. Mages own Clerics anyway (My personal opinion).

[ 05-04-2003, 06:34 PM: Message edited by: Grammar ]

does it worth to get rid of aerie or nalia to have edwin in the party??? but if i get rid of nalia..she is the only party member closest to thief!
me/ranger
valygar
keldron
jaheira
nalia
aerie
and aerie is...was my romance till i slept with her...is there a way to get her to love again?

and where is that guy in red that buried alive that fellow in the graveyard district i have searched the whole bridge district?

I'm afraid the only way to restore your romance is through some console (cheats).

Here is my party combination, just in case you are wondering about good one:
one sorcerer, two mages (common), three fighters(paladin, ranger, fighter), one druid, one cleric, one thief
(NPC spoilers)
Me - sorcerer - well nothing is powerful like him. Maybe this class should be weakened because it is very powerful. (~29 % of all the kills (600+ enemies ) SoA+ToB ).

Minsc - ranger - Fighter No 1 (~19%)

Keldorn - inquisitor - Fighter No 2 - Mage's nightmare (19%)

Aerie - mage/cleric - she learns spells and takes exp and when in her high levels hm... lots of the magic she uses is unusable to my sorcerer - extremly helpful mage/cleric - she kills dragons, demons, shadows, mind flayers ...
(~17%)

Jaheira - druid/fighter - she can cast highest druid spells - a lot of them and with her special abilities she becomes a pretty good fighter. Aerie can not be that good in the priest spells as Jaheira is.
(~9%)
Yoshimo - find traps, pick locks, thievery stuff - replace him with Imoen later

Imoen - Mage/Thief - some additional spells to the party - she does all the thievery stuff you'll ever need (with some potions when needed) and also she'll cast her first time stop before Aerie even know her first eight lvl mage spell.

[ 05-04-2003, 08:14 PM: Message edited by: Merlin from Amber ]

He is north from Five Flagons Inn. He is outside not in the houses. Search for man dressed in red.

Just in case I'm giving the wrong direction - when you're staying in front of the Inn move down-left along the wall.

[ 05-04-2003, 08:16 PM: Message edited by: Merlin from Amber ]

The guy your looking for in the bridge district is Am-Si, once you confront him about the kidnapping he will run to his hideout. I always give keldorn Gauntlets of Dexterity to make up for his woeful dex (he has only 9), his AC lowers by 4 with it. Armour with AC 0 is ok, but find some -1 armour (Red Dragon Scales are good), or better still -2 (Armour of the Hart). If you can spare the Ring of Gaxx, give it to him to boost his AC by 2. The cloak of sewers is also good to use, as it can be used with Red Dragon Scales whilst providing a boost of 1 AC.

[ 05-04-2003, 08:49 PM: Message edited by: dragon_lord ]

Slightly off topic, but, in my game, you can wear the Red Dragon Scales with protection items like rings or cloaks. One of the big perks... Is this a bug?

I love wearing the Red Dragon Scales and the Cloak of Protection +2 on my fighters... Makes them BEEFY!

Yes, it is a bug, and it's fixed if you install Throne of Bhaal.

<font color=white> The SoA patch and/or the Baldurash fixpack fixes this bug also ;) </font>

but theres an option to make it so you can use magical armor with AC adding(subtracting?) rings/amulets/cloaks in the -ease of use- mod.

can anyone give a clua for getting an item i ve lost at the druids grove...flame tongue i thing

and that ring from the guy at the six building Toldeg..(ah,...i dont remember him)

i recently took a part of a bow that in its history that it throw lightning bolt
i thing i found it at the temple district at a house similar to the big one at the bridge district?where do i find the second part?

Please

[ 05-05-2003, 02:49 PM: Message edited by: sorab ]

SW1H24 - Flame Tongue
RING33 - Ring of the Ram

One partt is in the bridge district, in the skinner's house. The other part is not in Athkatla, you will find it in the next chapter.

Right, which is just overpowered. In PnP, you can't add the AC bonus from a magic ring, etc, to magic armor, but you do get the saving throw bonus. Rather than implementing that, the game designers simply don't allow you to wear them together. EoU is overpowered on that one.

i press ctl+space and i
i type
CLUAConsole:CreateItem(RING33)
and nothing happens...Error file not found??????
what am i doing wrong?
i hate when i loose an item and i dont now where!!!!.....

oh and why nalia cant write the scroll of melf's minute missiles to her spellbook?

whats the best weapon jaheira can take?

[ 05-06-2003, 12:38 PM: Message edited by: sorab ]

Some of the things in the ease of use mod are cheats.

Keeping Drizzt's loot
Multiple Strongholds
Multi-Class Grand Mastery

[QUOTE]Originally posted by sorab:
i press ctl+space and i
i type
CLUAConsole:CreateItem(RING33)
and nothing happens...Error file not found??????
what am i doing wrong?
i hate when i loose an item and i dont now where!!!!.....

You need to put quotes around the item, like so:
CLUAConsole:CreateItem("RING33")

oh and why nalia cant write the scroll of melf's minute missiles to her spellbook?

One of two things: she either already knows the spell (it's already in her spellbook) or a message pops up saying that she's memorized the maximum amount of spells at that level per her intelligence. What it means is that Nalia's not bright enough to memorize any more spells at that level; she needs more INT. Two good ways to boost her INT stat are by drinking potions of Mind Focusing or Genius. Try checking in your local temple.

whats the best weapon jaheira can take?

That all depends on where you've been putting her proficiency points. Jaheira will be good with any weapon you give her provided that a) has proficiency points in the weapon and b) the weapon can be used by druids. In my games, Jaheira's wielding a scimitar from Trademeet, a club from Spellhold, and very late-game a staff from Chapter 7.

Some of the things in the ease of use mod are cheats.

Keeping Drizzt's loot
</font>[/QUOTE]Don't see what's so bad about that though. They allowed you to keep the loot in BG1, and lord knows the relative power of his equipment was far greater back then than it is in BG2, where they are average weapons at best.

Though killing Drizzt was a bit more of a challenge in BG1 I'll have to say, probably the single most difficult encounter in the entire series, not counting cheesy and semi-cheating methods to kill him.

I always use that EoU "cheat"...
I find it annoying that I can't use any of the rings I find otherwise... :(

Do you mean "annoying" as in, "It's so annoying that my Thief can't cast Wizard spells while wearing Full Plate, all without breaking Stealth?"

Some rules were meant to be broken, yes--but some others are meant to stay just as they are. I have no problems whatsoever with disabling Malchor Harpell, but Magic Armor conflicting with Magic Rings/Cloaks/Amulets is just one of the classic rules of D&D. Diablo is a perfectly good game, but don't try to make BG follow Diablo rules.

("Oh, hey--you want me to make you Diamond Ring of the Zodiac? Is great recipie! Gives +60% Magic Resistance and +20 to all of your abilities! Oh wait--is Diablo item. Tee hee, silly Cespenar.")

Hmm... if I remember correctly the item upgrade mod allows you to meld Keldorn's Firecam Full-Plate Armor with the Armour of the Hart.

AC -2...

Gauntlets of dexterity... AC -6

Ring of Gaxx... AC -8

Helm of Balduran... AC -9

Cloak of the Sewers... AC -10

If we have disabled Malchor Harpell (and rightly so) wielding Twinkle will knock another 2 off your AC... AC -12

Fancy a shield... hmm... Sentinel +4 springs to mind will knock off another 5...

Sooooooo... thats Keldorn with a nice health -17 AC.

I'm not suggesting thats the maximum AC you could get with him, but its not too bad for a rainy day. He'll be fine with twinkle as his +5 weapon. If you get sword and shield weapon proficiencies, you can knock another two off the AC... so possibly -19...

A more... convincing application of the Disable Malchor Harpell Mod would be for you to fight Malchor Harpell for the items, instead of just outright pushing him out of the picture.

But he cheats and simply imprisons all of my party.

But of course, you are going to tell me how to get around this? :D

(That was a hint :D , spoil me)

Nononono, you misunderstand me. What I meant was that you improved the fight so that after you defeat him, you get to keep the equipment. Much more realistic.

*nods*

That would be fun. He is a git.

Does timestop and shapechange work against him?

Yes, but he just keeps on spawning.

That's just against missile weapons.

Personally, I would prefer that Malchor be with Drizzt's party, so that you fight them all at once--and that NONE OF THEM CHEAT. Just how hacked is Drizzt, anyway? (And edit Cattie so that she's not duplicating a supposedly-unique Bow, and Regis so that he's using a weapon he can actually Backstab with.)

Oh, and *cough* a Reputation penalty for whacking somebody this respected.

Howsabout instant infamy and rep 1 for having killed a legend so important that he has books and even a short paragraph in the BG2 manual written about him?

Change all dialogues to "You killed Drizzt - I dont like you anymore" for nice people, or "Congrats on killing Drizzt" for nasty types.

And have the entire Amnish army attack and incarcerate you. And have all your items stolen, and level drain cast on you until you are level -64 with 1 in every stat, so that Boo kills you with his petrifying gaze!

And change all the flamingoes to purple ballooons! And dancing chinchillas! And a vast array of floral tribute to the death of captain Birdseye! Mwahahahahaaaaaaaa!!

Lets be fair, the entire reputation system in BG is rubbish anyway.

Oh great, you kill a commoner... -8 to your rep.

Amazing, you saved the town and the innocent kittens... +1 to your rep.

You travel 3 days across the continent... oh look, they know about you here as well. Well I'll be damned if that isnt a fluke.

Oh, my rep is low. Time to bribe some evil priests of Talos to spread the word about how good I am. Great, rep is up again :D

Oh look, my personality and charisma has less affect on a shopkeeper than some psuedomythic reputation score.

Yip de dip, I just killed Drizzt and his party of cheating mongoloid heroes and NOBODY was around to witness it. Yet, lets penalize my reputation for killing him and let everyone else know my reputation score.

It is a FLAWED concept. Badly flawed :(

Agreed. Why can't you be a bad guy, and do enough good deeds (for reward, of course. ;) ) to have a good rep? Sarevok did just that in BG1 (start tensions between two groups, then play himself off as the savior to one of them, just so he could start a war that would allow him to achieve his goal). I liked the system in PS:T better (your actions slowly change your alignment along the way; they also instituted this in NwN, but they only did Good-Evil, not Law-Chaos). You steal from someone? Points towards Chaos. You kill a peasant? Points towards Evil. You could still have reputation, but it would be harder for someone evil to get the higher rep (not impossible, just harder, since many of the actions to get higher rep would be considered good acts, thereby affecting alignment).